Denilson - Arsenal don't have any real leaders

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:05 am

of course the translation is accurate you morons, I was the one who did it!

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:06 am

BT wrote:The Sun have nicked the story from arseblog and arsenal brasil without any accreditation (its all kicking off on twitter) and are calling it their own exclusive. Shouldnt bother linking the Sun pieces on here.

true. they are *word censored*, this should have been an arsenalbrasil/arseblog exclusive...

Dan_85 · Post by **Dan_85** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:07 am

Very poor from The Sun. As a result, other websites have now run it & are crediting The Sun rather than Arsenal Brasil/Arseblog...

This coupled with what Cesc said about Denilson after Leeds did make me think maybe they'd had a bit of a falling out

Probably all a fuss over nothing though.

EDIT: Just seen that The Sun are now claiming they received the interview before Arseblog

Think they're trying to get some clarification from Arsenal Brasil. Any ideas BG?!!

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:16 am

Dan_85 wrote:

Very poor from The Sun. As a result, other websites have now run it & are crediting The Sun rather than Arsenal Brasil/Arseblog...

This coupled with what Cesc said about Denilson after Leeds did make me think maybe they'd had a bit of a falling out Probably all a fuss over nothing though.

EDIT: Just seen that The Sun are now claiming they received the interview before Arseblog Think they're trying to get some clarification from Arsenal Brasil. Any ideas BG?!!

yeah, i'm solving that right now. will tell you guys here what happened as soon as i finish that.

Iceman29 · Post by **Iceman29** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:21 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ilson.html

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:26 am

What a wanker!

Still he has a point but a point which should have kept to himself or at least behind closed doors.

I think we've had this debate before but I know there are examples around Europe but the type of REAL leadership we seek could probably only come from a British player.
English players ARE overhyped but at times I do wish we had a British back bone.

When you look at some of the other clubs the Chavs have Terry & Lumparse, ManU have Duckface & plus a few others, Mousers have Gerrard and Carragher. Even the Sp*ds too with King and Dawson...

Personally I don't see anyone of Theo, Gibbs or Wilshere in that mold.

augie · Post by **augie** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:36 am

I really dont see the problem here

He has said we are badly missing a real leader (or five) and it is something every single Gooner has been bemoaning for a few years now so what is the problem with it ? Of course denilson said it and he is shit so basically he is wrong ? Would there be this kind of reaction if nasri had of said it ? I dont fcuking think so

Most of ye have made it crystal clear that ye want denilson out of our club and I have no real problem with that (although I do think he would be a good player in another league/team) but please seperate that issue with the matter in hand cos what he has said here is 100% correct and I dont care if it is seen as a knock against cesc, tv5 and rvp cos they are not proper leaders imo

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:41 am

augie wrote:I really dont see the problem here He has said we are badly missing a real leader (or five) and it is something every single Gooner has been bemoaning for a few years now so what is the problem with it ? Of course denilson said it and he is shit so basically he is wrong ? Would there be this kind of reaction if nasri had of said it ? I dont fcuking think so

Most of ye have made it crystal clear that ye want denilson out of our club and I have no real problem with that (although I do think he would be a good player in another league/team) but please seperate that issue with the matter in hand cos what he has said here is 100% correct and I dont care if it is seen as a knock against cesc, tv5 and rvp cos they are not proper leaders imo

My issue is that it looks as if he made his thoughts public. Which is naive and stupid
No matter whoever it was that said it including Nasri, RVP or TV5 it's unprofessional and should have been said behind closed door to Arsene.

mikeyb772001 · Post by **mikeyb772001** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:41 am

augie wrote:I really dont see the problem here He has said we are badly missing a real leader (or five) and it is something every single Gooner has been bemoaning for a few years now so what is the problem with it ? Of course denilson said it and he is shit so basically he is wrong ? Would there be this kind of reaction if nasri had of said it ? I dont fcuking think so

Most of ye have made it crystal clear that ye want denilson out of our club and I have no real problem with that (although I do think he would be a good player in another league/team) but please seperate that issue with the matter in hand cos what he has said here is 100% correct and I dont care if it is seen as a knock against cesc, tv5 and rvp cos they are not proper leaders imo

Exactly right. As I said before I agree with what he said. However he has no right in saying it. If Nasri said it then I would salute him for having the balls to come out and dare go public.

Denilson should shut his trap and keep quiet as he hasnâ€™t earn the right to dare criticise as he is the 2nd worst player we have.

Its lucky for him we donâ€™t one of those Tony Adams born leader types as they would kick that *word censored* off the pitch and then drag him to the bench and even the bench is to good for players like dencuntson.

Jumpers For Goalposts · Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:03 pm

Sad to hear it from one of the worst players in our history but it is true and surely can't be ignored any longer. This is why we always bottle it in the big end of season pressure matches!

Ability = no problem!
Attitude = Big problem!!!

The buck on this one stops firmly with Arsene (as usual) because he has moulded every single part of this squad.

rodders999 · Post by **rodders999** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:04 pm

Don't know why everyone is so up in arms about this, even Wenger admitted it after the Wigan debacle -

"Nobody looks from the outside to take really charge of the organisation side. Thereâ€™s no voice when the organisation drops a little bit, you donâ€™t feel that anybody takes charge on alertness".

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:04 pm

mikeyb772001 wrote:
augie wrote:I really dont see the problem here He has said we are badly missing a real leader (or five) and it is something every single Gooner has been bemoaning for a few years now so what is the problem with it ? Of course denilson said it and he is shit so basically he is wrong ? Would there be this kind of reaction if nasri had of said it ? I dont fcuking think so

Most of ye have made it crystal clear that ye want denilson out of our club and I have no real problem with that (although I do think he would be a good player in another league/team) but please seperate that issue with the matter in hand cos what he has said here is 100% correct and I dont care if it is seen as a knock against cesc, tv5 and rvp cos they are not proper leaders imo

Exactly right. As I said before I agree with what he said. However he has no right in saying it. If Nasri said it then I would salute him for having the balls to come out and dare go public.

Denilson should shut his trap and keep quiet as he hasnâ€™t earn the right to dare criticise as he is the 2nd worst player we have.

Its lucky for him we donâ€™t one of those Tony Adams born leader types as they would kick that c**t off the pitch and then drag him to the bench and even the bench is to good for players like dencuntson.

Out of interest who's numero uno?

piresistible · Post by **piresistible** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:07 pm

This is stupid - he is staitng the obvious and in no way is it a dig at Cesc - read the full version on here and you'll see that the guy is actually talking a lot of sense. Pity he doesnt show it on the pitch

http://arsenal.theoffside.com/team-news ... right.html#

mikeyb772001 · Post by **mikeyb772001** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:08 pm

Boomer wrote:
mikeyb772001 wrote:
augie wrote:I really dont see the problem here He has said we are badly missing a real leader (or five) and it is something every single Gooner has been bemoaning for a few years now so what is the problem with it ? Of course denilson said it and he is shit so basically he is wrong ? Would there be this kind of reaction if nasri had of said it ? I dont fcuking think so

Most of ye have made it crystal clear that ye want denilson out of our club and I have no real problem with that (although I do think he would be a good player in another league/team) but please seperate that issue with the matter in hand cos what he has said here is 100% correct and I dont care if it is seen as a knock against cesc, tv5 and rvp cos they are not proper leaders imo

Exactly right. As I said before I agree with what he said. However he has no right in saying it. If Nasri said it then I would salute him for having the balls to come out and dare go public.

Denilson should shut his trap and keep quiet as he hasnâ€™t earn the right to dare criticise as he is the 2nd worst player we have.

Its lucky for him we donâ€™t one of those Tony Adams born leader types as they would kick that c**t off the pitch and then drag him to the bench and even the bench is to good for players like dencuntson.
Out of interest who's numero uno?

Barry

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:10 pm

wow, what a storm this interview caused

denilson is a top person, fellas. i dislike his football just like everyone else in here, but i must say that he as a person is a true gentleman. he welcomed us in his home, gave the interview, payed for the taxi for matheus (the guy who did the interview) to get back to his hotel, kept a couple of shirts, got the whole squad to sign the shirts and then gave them back to matheus at the hotel. he was always very helpfull.

as a kid who grew in a favela, lost his mother so early and lost friends to traffic and drug abuse, he is incredibly level headed.

but i will never understand why he made those 'leadership' comments. after the interview ended, we asked him if he would mind us posting it, and he said there was no problem at all.