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But I had to respond to DB 10's deliberate lies.

DB 10 knows I nver agreed to posting in a single thread on the Board. You re a liar period, pof course its must easier to justify your actions when you lie about my own.

What I did agree to and I never should have had to if you had honestly applied a consistent definition for thread hi-jacking and applied it to all forum members was to post my views on certain threeads in sperate threads of my own, I asked for permission form you from Hleb and from Rebel and recieved approval from all three of you.

Neither Rebel nor Hlen have claimed I violated any agreement let alone lied by doing so. No only you have done so, and oddly enough you you didbn't make any such claim at that time because you knew that was alir then. In fact here are three three threads inquestion

http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... hp?t=27100

http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... hp?t=27110

I challange any forum member moderator or administrator to honestly read those to come to any other honest conclusion than what I wrote at that time

USMartin wrote: I just think it's fair to point out that in fact this is the first thread I have opened this week that addressed the Board specifically in any way, and if you read the posts opening the other two threads that is quite clear. I am not trying to have a go here and as I say I hope we can discuss this further via PM because I like and respect you and I sense the same from you, but as I say I do think it's fair to point that out here.

The simple truth is there is no one least of all you Alan who can honestly conclude anything but what I said abovce if you honestl;y read the threads not that i expect you or many others to, because the truth is orrelevant to you if it does not support your views period.

You're the liar here and denying it will just be another lie.

Oh and before you get your knickers in a real twist you're the one who insisted not discussing matters by PM Alan because you're too busy. Otherwise I still would have done that rather than publicly lie about someone else to try and justify critcizing and condeming them unfairly. Unlike you I don't need to lie to justify my actions beciuse I am a better man that that.

My contempt for you is based on the truth about your personal character as you have shown it in this instance not lies I need to create and I can prove it unlike you.

The simple truth is your are the only one to claim I made such an agreement and the actual threads show that even if I had I didn't violate it all. The first thread wasn't aboiut the Board at all. In the second thread the Board was mentioned by other posters before I ever made reference to it. Only in the third thread did I actially specifcally address the Board as a topic and even there that was only one thread discussing and if you are any kind of man you will acknowledge this here and now and retract your deliberate lies, while still seeking my banning.

I guess you were uncomfortable doing so just based on the facts on my actual conduct on this forum.

I think its remarkable that you've managed to spew forth 5471 posts of utter boring, self-righteous, repetitive drivel without being banned yet. And now you're biting the hands that fed you, nice one.

Oh and since you are here and have time on your hands Fllash why don't you read the threads and honestly answer whether oir not in fact they were multiple threads about the Board. Honestly answer Flash., As I say this is a one-time thing.... being honest this once won't hurt your credentials as a Board apologist

Oh fuck off!

LDB wrote:I think its remarkable that you've managed to spew forth 5471 posts of utter boring, self-righteous, repetitive drivel without being banned yet. And now you're biting the hands that fed you, nice one.

Please go pray a yopur picture of the Arsenal boiard as they are clearly more important to you than Arsenal. Of course you let them cash in and now you'll go after Stan kroenke and pat yourself on the back for it. How wonderful. You let the Board screw us for years and think reacting when its too late is honourable and courageous. Shame there is no standing ovation emoticon as I am sure you feel entitled to it for acting after its too late all the same.

As for drivel I have nothing on you and some others to whom preserving the mythos of the superior integrity of our Board over all others at all costs is paramount even letting them do harm to Arsenal itself apparently. Or is that only just happening now in the last fiour months? Funny how that is.

As for biting the hand that feeds me, not at all. The fact is DB 10 has made false claims about my conduct that he surely could prove but has made no effort to. I have presented all the proof there is and you can read it. I challage you to do so and honestly stand by what you said there or by what he claims I did though oddl enough he never claimed that at the time I actually am alleged to have done it.

I had withdrawn from posting as you precisely because of all of this kind of crap, but I will not let someone deliberately lie about my conduct to forum administrators. He wants me banned fine let him ask for that but let him do so based on actual facts not false claims and lies. Or is the easy way out your way as well?

Nice to see your back USMARTIN .

I blame the board
Oh and welcome back Martin

swimmer1 wrote:Nice to see your back USMARTIN .

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Cheers swimmer and sid(though your sig is plain wrong) but I'm not. Happy to remaIon in limbo except I saw a moderator deliberately lying about my conduct to justify taking punitive action against me and not for the first time. Bad enough regular forum members are free to do that, and I guess its ahrdly surprising they would feel free to do so when the people trusted to ensure that does not happen do it themselves.

Cllearly to some the truth about the Board sellign this Club down the river and all of us simply cannot or should not be discussed but it seems we should be able to hoestly adress the actual conduct of of each other or certainly of those entrusted to monitor that conduct. This isn't some opionion or misunderstanding. this is flat-out lying on DB 10's part. Even if there was a genuine misundestanding then clearly I did not do what he said either and there is proof on the forum istelf in the OP and threads linked above.

Wish I was back but what is the point when this is how it is

Well the forum hopefully is about people's different views my view is 50/50 blame board and Wenger so I am sitting on the fence but everyone should be able to say what they want with in reason without anyone getting personal .

Welcome back!
In some strange way I have missed you USM


Although I must confess I have never read beyond the first paragraph of your posts.

You bring all your problems on yourself Martin.

interesting

swimmer1 wrote:Well the forum hopefully is about people's different views my view is 50/50 blame board and Wenger so I am sitting on the fence but everyone should be able to say what they want with in reason without anyone getting personal .

Agreed, and I think that that line can get blurred easily enough and even I do that at times. But there are some who go way too far and for someone to delibeartely lie about actions that are here for all to see simply to advance their personal cause against anyone or justify it somehow.

This isn't name-calling here either or anything simple like that. This is a moderator justifying asking Administrators to ban me because I lied about a promise I made to them as a moderator, and repeating the claims which can cearly be prove true or false by simply reading those threads or just a few posts in them - just the OPs in the first two threads to show what the threads were in fact opened to discuss.

Say what you want about me, DB 10 has chosen to make these false claims and apparently is unwilling to prove let alone defend them when as i say it can be done either way rather easily. Maybe he should just admit he mis-spoke and retract his claims and then I can go back to just PM ing when and where its appropriate which i should think would suit him and many others.