R.I.P. Smokin´ Joe
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:45 am
He´s my all-time favourite Boxer.
R.I.P. Joe
R.I.P. Joe
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I read that they actually have been "friends" for the last two years, although not sure I fully believe it, would be great if they did put their differences behind them.Nos89 wrote:RIP Joe one of the greatest when heavyweight boxing was at its peak. I hope he made his peace with Ali before he passed.
Now this is just my opinion but I have to say that as much as Ali is seen as the greatest of all time, for me smoking Joe will go down in pure boxing terms as a better fighter than Ali.Barriecuda wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANLS0tn14M
2009 documentary, 9 parts all available on YouTube.
Really interesting. I never knew much about Joe/Ali today, other than the basics, but it seems like Joe is the real champion.
Later edit: Admittedly a seemingly very biased documentary.
I agree.northbankbren wrote:Now this is just my opinion but I have to say that as much as Ali is seen as the greatest of all time, for me smoking Joe will go down in pure boxing terms as a better fighter than Ali.
Now this is just my opinion but I have to say that as much as Ali is seen as the greatest of all time, for me smoking Joe will go down in pure boxing terms as a better fighter than Ali. What has made Ali “the greatest of all timeâ€northbankbren wrote:Barriecuda wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANLS0tn14M
2009 documentary, 9 parts all available on YouTube.
Really interesting. I never knew much about Joe/Ali today, other than the basics, but it seems like Joe is the real champion.
Later edit: Admittedly a seemingly very biased documentary.
Now this is just my opinion but I have to say that as much as Ali is seen as the greatest of all time, for me smoking Joe will go down in pure boxing terms as a better fighter than Ali. What has made Ali “the greatest of all timeâ€donaldo wrote:northbankbren wrote:Barriecuda wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANLS0tn14M
2009 documentary, 9 parts all available on YouTube.
Really interesting. I never knew much about Joe/Ali today, other than the basics, but it seems like Joe is the real champion.
Later edit: Admittedly a seemingly very biased documentary.
All fair points, but for me Fraiser was winning by a round by the end of the 14th. As for foreman, I still to this day hate watching the rumble in the jungle. As amazing as it was for Ali to pull of that victory, again in pure boxing terms, it was horrific. As you've said Ali could take one hell of a beating, and this along with his speed were his main atributes. Foreman basically punches Ali for seven rounds till he couldnt punch no more, "rope a dope", no its called taking punches and isnt a smart tactic.donaldo wrote:
C,mon Bren
Ali fought Liston twice won both,Frazier 3 times won 2,Foreman won,Norton 3 times won 2.Ali never ducked anyone.No other heavyweight fought the quality of fighters Ali did
When Ali fought Frazier he had been out of the ring for 4 years and had just two warm up fights before their fight it was much too soon.
As for Frazier winning the 3rd fight his trainer Eddie Futch pulled him out in the 14th round as he was getting well beaten.Would Futch have pulled him out of the figth if he was winning with just 3 mins to go? Ali was ahead by 6,5 and 4 points on the judges scorecards going into the final round
Just look what Ali did to the unbeatable Foreman who absolutley destroyed Frazier twice.Ali never took a beating in his prime like Joe did in that first fight with Foreman.What made Ali so great was his bravery,fighting 10 rounds with a broken jaw v Norton, rope a dope against the fearsome Foreman.Stopped just once and that was the mismatch v the underated Holmes when he was 38
No Frazier was a good fighter but Ali was the greatest heavyweight his record proves it
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=180&cat=boxer
Now this is just my opinion but I have to say that as much as Ali is seen as the greatest of all time, for me smoking Joe will go down in pure boxing terms as a better fighter than Ali.northbankbren wrote:Barriecuda wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANLS0tn14M
2009 documentary, 9 parts all available on YouTube.
Really interesting. I never knew much about Joe/Ali today, other than the basics, but it seems like Joe is the real champion.
Later edit: Admittedly a seemingly very biased documentary.