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Unbelievable. As incredibly bad an injury as it was Ramsey, and of course he deserves huge sympathy for it, he should look past it. Despite the condemnation of it at the time, it was not a malicious tackle, it was full blooded, but not studs up. Shawcross was clearly very upset at the time when he realised the injury he'd caused. Ramsey must accept his apology like a man and move on.
I cant stand Shawcross or pubis and the stoke mob with their bizarre victim mentality and feel he didn't get the punishment that his reckless play deserved.
Having said that Ramsey needs to be a professional and move on, even if that means he has to play in the same side.
Shawcross is a *word censored*, end of. I really don't want to see him representing my country, not least because I'm sick of dragging in shit English players that are scum (Vinnie Jones, Ben Thatcher), especially when they're almost as shit as what Wales already has.
That said, the way they're going about it is a joke. Coleman should have the bollocks to make the call himself. The Welsh team is yet again regressing into being a laughing stock, the process by which Coleman was appointed was a farce and now this. It's an unfair situation to put Ramsey in, Coleman and the FAW need to use some judgement.
LDB wrote:I cant stand Shawcross or pubis and the stoke mob with their bizarre victim mentality and feel he didn't get the punishment that his reckless play deserved.
Having said that Ramsey needs to be a professional and move on, even if that means he has to play in the same side.
Chant for when we play the stoke inbreds next season:
(To the tune of 'Trick of the Tail' by Genesis:
They've got Twelve Fingers
And they've got Twelve Toes
They all interbreed
They're neanderthals
Their sister is their mother
Their father is their brother
The whole family
Are fucking one another
That's why:
They've got Twelve Fingers
And they've got Twelve Toes
They all interbreed
They're neanderthals
Last edited by OneBardGooner on Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:29 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Don't even know why Wales and Coleman are making this public. It will put Ramsey in an awkward position whatever he says. Personally I'd tell the manager to pick whoever he wants. After all, not all internationals love each other - you don't have to like your team-mates to play alongside them for your country.
If I was Ramsey given his performances last season I'd be more concerned about keeping my place ahead of Joe Allen, Joe Ledley and Jack Collison than dictating who else should be in the team.
This story shouldn't be about Ramsey. It is all about Coleman, who has just confirmed that he knows little about management. Since when do managers ask their staff if it's OK to employ a particular person. Managers should manage. And to make it public is ridiculous.
Ramsey's response should be 'I'd play with whoever the manager picks, but I'm not playing for you, you useless prick'.
1. Ramsey is the captain, a naturalborn Welshman and considering the severity of the tackle/injury by Shawcross, should have some input on this decision - but not a final say. It's his job to play, not choose the team, let's not get that mixed up.
2. If Shawcross didn't want to play for Wales, then f him. Let him go make England if he thinks he's so good. Pulis has obviously put a load of nonsense into him if he thinks he's anywhere near England material... and frankly I wouldn't want a classless guy like him on Wales.
I can see why he may want to ask Ramsey beforehand but the final decision should still be Coleman's and to go public is stupid. It puts Ramsey in a tough situation because if shawcross doesnt get called up everyone will know why That being said I hope Ramsey makes sure that c**t Shawcross is sent packing, he could have ended his career so i hope he gets one back on him!