Modern Football Bol**cks

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:05 pm
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:35 pm
nut flush gooner wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:11 pm
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:00 pm
nut flush gooner wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:50 pm


He works for BT Sport and the BBC as a freelancer, they pay a fee to his company and he then declares his income through annual accounts.

So Perry fuels his confirmation bias by jumping on your abusive post, but won't answer the question about Gary Lineker's tax status. Because the reality is he hasn't got a clue.

The same people who voted for Brexit jumping on Gary Lineker both on this forum and across social media, whilst we are at it Brexit has gone well hasn't it lads?
I've answered your question about his tax status. I find it hypocritical that he is dragging out a case against HMRC when he can clearly afford to pay the money that is in dispute. If he wants better public sevices or better immigration rights, pay the fucking tax you are supposed to pay. Don't dispute it, pay it. I get fucking furious about the wealthy avoiding tax through their ability to pay more money to accountants to avoid what they could and should pay.
I've found Lineker to be a reprehensible human being for years. The stories I have heard about him and his hands and his creepy behaviour and then his absolutely sickening David Brent style desperation for attention and affection are abhorrent. I couldn't give a fuck what he thinks, I could give a fuck what he tweets but I do give a fuck when he wants free speech and has gone through the courts to prevent stories about him being published. And when it comes to Brexit, how the fuck do you work out that I voted for it? I wasn't even allowed a vote. Not every opposing view makes someone Nigel fucking Farrange.
You haven't answered anything. He hasn't done anything wrong, as a freelancer he has much more flexibility over how he draws an income from his own company. He's no different to any businessman that runs a Limited Company.

He will have been advised about the optimal way of drawing a salary by his tax advisers/accountants. That's not tax evasion. HMRC can investigate his tax affairs, that happens all the time with not only celebrities but people in business.

So why don't you jump on the BBC then for its Chairman making a donation in the hundreds of thousands to the Conservative Party. Or Fiona Bruce giving Stanley Johnson a pass for breaking his Mrs nose, saying it only happened once? Both much more controversial than anything Lineker has said ?
As I say, if you've got millions, pay what you owe, don't fuck about trying to find ways out of paying. If I'd been caught out and paid back 5m pounds, I'd have been ashamed and shut up forever.
As for the other stuff, I honestly don't know about what you're referring to with regards to the BBC and money and politics, so I can't comment. What I will say however is that I remember people feeling the same way you feel but the other way round when Blair and Mandelson were manipulating them and pressurising them with the Iraq dossier or Prescott punching people or Ron Davis getting caught cottaging on Clapham Common after the Labour Party had paid for stories to out gay Conservative MPs and the 45 minute claim and the death of Dr. David Kelly. That upset me. That was horrendous. That select committee with the "You're just chaff" comment. We all have reasons for feeling the way we do or have experienced things in our professional backgrounds which have influenced how we feel about things. As I say, I don't know what goes on in Britain these days too much but if it comes to offering a counter or alternative view based on my thoughts and experiences and if asked to defend my views, I'm happy to. I live in another country, I didn't vote for Brexit. As I say, having another view and being uncomfortable with someone or something doesn't make you Nigel Farrage.
ok interesting to hear that you no longer live in the UK.
I won't make any criticisms of your views because I appreciate that you will be viewing things in a different context to those of us living in the Tory Britain of today which is completely different now to the Britain of the past. Back then if you held a view and someone else held a view then fair enough, you could agree to disagree, but today we are seeing censorship extend everywhere. The BBC is now a mouthpiece for the Conservative government, which is appalling. It appears nobody can say anything anymore. Sad times.
Back from holiday and browsing this in taxi...and had to post...

Facking hell Rob your political views are completely naive and straight out of 6th form. Stop before you make yourself look more stupid!!!

Your so blinkered against the right it's funny. What's being censored. What can't you say? Someone who has to be impartial as part of their contractual obligation (or that of their contracting company should we want to be anal about it) not being so.

Im sure you would be wetting yourself were any bbc folk coming out tweeting in support of 'right wing' causes.

What about the Censorship of people who don't support certain causes pushed by the left yet get cancelled or prosecuted for speaking out, trans, blm, legacy of empire, someones legacy/name being removed because they like a bit of sugar that was harvested by slaves, protestors being allowed to cause disruption whilst the police stand by and watch, police more interested in spurious hate crime whilst real crime goes through the roof? Yes there certainly is censorship pushed by a noisy bunch of leftisr morons on channles such as the cesspit echo chmaber of twatter (no offence mcd!) who utilise modern media to push an agenda that is supported by very few.

Is it any wonder the country and standards have gone to shit whilst increasing focus is given to all the faffy crap and causes of last few years?

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BobbyPires7 wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:28 pm
I see the same old left leaning loud mouths have been attracted to this thread like bluebottles round shit on a summer’s day.
Sharks been jumped on this bobby, robs 6th form politics and then King of the left wimg conspiracy on tha last page regurgitating some utter BS that he posted couple of years back, slow growth of fascism...fackin hell... :coffeespit:

Shark truly jumped.

All over some jug eared smarmy scum *word censored* who hates us.

Appreciate I'm guilty of fanning flames here but need to call out BS when it's seen I'm afraid sorry DB! Just can't deal with morons.

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Oh well done! When you resort to diatribe and abusive name calling as you aren’t able to have a discussion. You must be very proud!

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goonertux wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:15 am
So many of you are missing the point here. This is all about censorship and the Tory control of the national broadcaster. As some have mentioned, no problem with Andrew Neill, Alan Sugar, Jeremy Clarkson tweeting right-wing based messages in the past but as soon as any anti-Tory thoughts are posted, it’s full on George Orwell Big Brother censorship.
No punishment for Fiona Bruce excusing Stanley Johnson for battering his wife on Question Time, but her husband is a well known Tory donor, so nothing to see there. These are dangerous times right now and the signs are there of a slow growth of facsism. Division, diversion and control.
By suspending Lineker, they have totally shot themselves in the foot as all they’ve done is prove the point they are controlled by a Tory Chairman and Tory Director General. Be interesting to see how this plays out.
Very well put and hard to argue against this.
I see a couple of contributors have tried but really it is more a case of lashing out as they haven’t really got any counter argument.
More a case of not wanting to see the truth.

And for anyone calling Lineker a :censored: then ok but you are also calling Ian Wright a :censored: as he was the first to defend Lineker. And anyone on here calling Wright a :censored: can fuck right off!

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Gary Lineker should be massively applaudec for speaking out against this horrible cuntish government and their disgraceful record and legislation on immigration, and I couldn't be prouder for Wrighty to be immediately backing him in solidarity.

Big up to Shearer and the rest of them all for following suit!

Fuck the fucking Tories, each and every one of them, and fuck the Tory mouthpiece BBC!
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arrgee wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:40 pm
We are getting the antidote to Modern Football Bollox this weekend. MOTD with just football and no prattle. Hopefully it will be the same for MOTD2 on Sunday.
Nobody gives a fucking shit about what dickheads like Lineker or Shearer or Danny fucking Murphy or anyone else has to say about football matches. Nobody turns on to watch that, they want to see the action. If they just showed the goals, nobody would turn round and say "Umm, hold on a second, what would someone who last played football twenty five years ago say about that?"

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Just get Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse to present it.

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Natural Born Gooner wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:45 am
Gary Lineker should be massively applaudec for speaking out against this horrible cuntish government and their disgraceful record and legislation on immigration, and I couldn't be prouder for Wrighty to be immediately backing him in solidarity.

Big up to Shearer and the rest of them all for following suit!

Fuck the fucking Tories, each and every one of them, and fuck the Tory mouthpiece BBC!
really
comparing our country (one he still choses to live in) to Nazi Germany
Linkeaker along with Phil Neville Lilly Allen are the worst of he champagne soicialists
bleat on about migrants but do not offer room in there mansions for some to live with them
or want them in thier neighbour hoods
the people affected by this are us working class that get them forced upon them
try getting a doctors appointment or other services
I actually believe Lineaker has the right to freedom of speech and can say what he wants
but if he has breached a social media policy he agreed to with the BBC he has to accept the punishment

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:02 am
arrgee wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:40 pm
We are getting the antidote to Modern Football Bollox this weekend. MOTD with just football and no prattle. Hopefully it will be the same for MOTD2 on Sunday.
Nobody gives a fucking shit about what dickheads like Lineker or Shearer or Danny fucking Murphy or anyone else has to say about football matches. Nobody turns on to watch that, they want to see the action. If they just showed the goals, nobody would turn round and say "Umm, hold on a second, what would someone who last played football twenty five years ago say about that?"
Jug ears is an egotistical c u n t!
He didn't mind collecting his wages from presenting the world cup in Qatar!
I hope we never see this "rumoured" wife beating control freak on BBC again.

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gazzatt2 wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:24 am
Natural Born Gooner wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:45 am
Gary Lineker should be massively applaudec for speaking out against this horrible cuntish government and their disgraceful record and legislation on immigration, and I couldn't be prouder for Wrighty to be immediately backing him in solidarity.

Big up to Shearer and the rest of them all for following suit!

Fuck the fucking Tories, each and every one of them, and fuck the Tory mouthpiece BBC!
really
comparing our country (one he still choses to live in) to Nazi Germany
Linkeaker along with Phil Neville Lilly Allen are the worst of he champagne soicialists
bleat on about migrants but do not offer room in there mansions for some to live with them
or want them in thier neighbour hoods
the people affected by this are us working class that get them forced upon them
try getting a doctors appointment or other services
I actually believe Lineaker has the right to freedom of speech and can say what he wants
but if he has breached a social media policy he agreed to with the BBC he has to accept the punishment

He's housed refugees before, and has a Ukrainian family living at his property for a while now so he does walk the talk.

He compared the Tory Government rhetoric on the subject as akin to 1930s Germany, he didn't compare the UK to Nazi Germany

I think you'll find the lack of Doctor & Dentist appointments, Ambulance waiting times, Police inaction is down to 13 years of Tory under investment, pay freezing essential staff whilst lining their own coffers and general mismanagement. But you keep on believing what you've been told by a dog whistle Government smokescreen of blaming everything on refugees and immigration rather than their own absolute incompetency.

They're laughing at us and the division they've caused, whilst pocketing billions of our own tax money on dodgy PPE companies and expenses!

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Nobody in the studio, no commentators, no player interviews and now no football focus.

North Korea state tv epic fucking banter :coffeespit:

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rodders999 wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:01 am
Nobody in the studio, no commentators, no player interviews and now no football focus.

North Korea state tv epic fucking banter :coffeespit:
No woman, no cry?

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Maybe those 2 sex pests from BeIN sports could step in to fill the void :wink:

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the playing mantis wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:43 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:05 pm
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:35 pm
nut flush gooner wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:11 pm
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:00 pm


I've answered your question about his tax status. I find it hypocritical that he is dragging out a case against HMRC when he can clearly afford to pay the money that is in dispute. If he wants better public sevices or better immigration rights, pay the fucking tax you are supposed to pay. Don't dispute it, pay it. I get fucking furious about the wealthy avoiding tax through their ability to pay more money to accountants to avoid what they could and should pay.
I've found Lineker to be a reprehensible human being for years. The stories I have heard about him and his hands and his creepy behaviour and then his absolutely sickening David Brent style desperation for attention and affection are abhorrent. I couldn't give a fuck what he thinks, I could give a fuck what he tweets but I do give a fuck when he wants free speech and has gone through the courts to prevent stories about him being published. And when it comes to Brexit, how the fuck do you work out that I voted for it? I wasn't even allowed a vote. Not every opposing view makes someone Nigel fucking Farrange.
You haven't answered anything. He hasn't done anything wrong, as a freelancer he has much more flexibility over how he draws an income from his own company. He's no different to any businessman that runs a Limited Company.

He will have been advised about the optimal way of drawing a salary by his tax advisers/accountants. That's not tax evasion. HMRC can investigate his tax affairs, that happens all the time with not only celebrities but people in business.

So why don't you jump on the BBC then for its Chairman making a donation in the hundreds of thousands to the Conservative Party. Or Fiona Bruce giving Stanley Johnson a pass for breaking his Mrs nose, saying it only happened once? Both much more controversial than anything Lineker has said ?
As I say, if you've got millions, pay what you owe, don't fuck about trying to find ways out of paying. If I'd been caught out and paid back 5m pounds, I'd have been ashamed and shut up forever.
As for the other stuff, I honestly don't know about what you're referring to with regards to the BBC and money and politics, so I can't comment. What I will say however is that I remember people feeling the same way you feel but the other way round when Blair and Mandelson were manipulating them and pressurising them with the Iraq dossier or Prescott punching people or Ron Davis getting caught cottaging on Clapham Common after the Labour Party had paid for stories to out gay Conservative MPs and the 45 minute claim and the death of Dr. David Kelly. That upset me. That was horrendous. That select committee with the "You're just chaff" comment. We all have reasons for feeling the way we do or have experienced things in our professional backgrounds which have influenced how we feel about things. As I say, I don't know what goes on in Britain these days too much but if it comes to offering a counter or alternative view based on my thoughts and experiences and if asked to defend my views, I'm happy to. I live in another country, I didn't vote for Brexit. As I say, having another view and being uncomfortable with someone or something doesn't make you Nigel Farrage.
ok interesting to hear that you no longer live in the UK.
I won't make any criticisms of your views because I appreciate that you will be viewing things in a different context to those of us living in the Tory Britain of today which is completely different now to the Britain of the past. Back then if you held a view and someone else held a view then fair enough, you could agree to disagree, but today we are seeing censorship extend everywhere. The BBC is now a mouthpiece for the Conservative government, which is appalling. It appears nobody can say anything anymore. Sad times.
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Facking hell Rob your political views are completely naive and straight out of 6th form. Stop before you make yourself look more stupid!!!

Your so blinkered against the right it's funny. What's being censored. What can't you say? Someone who has to be impartial as part of their contractual obligation (or that of their contracting company should we want to be anal about it) not being so.

Im sure you would be wetting yourself were any bbc folk coming out tweeting in support of 'right wing' causes.

What about the Censorship of people who don't support certain causes pushed by the left yet get cancelled or prosecuted for speaking out, trans, blm, legacy of empire, someones legacy/name being removed because they like a bit of sugar that was harvested by slaves, protestors being allowed to cause disruption whilst the police stand by and watch, police more interested in spurious hate crime whilst real crime goes through the roof? Yes there certainly is censorship pushed by a noisy bunch of leftisr morons on channles such as the cesspit echo chmaber of twatter (no offence mcd!) who utilise modern media to push an agenda that is supported by very few.

Is it any wonder the country and standards have gone to shit whilst increasing focus is given to all the faffy crap and causes of last few years?
Spot on..

Just to add Lineker is a holier than thou, pontificating nauseaus wanker...think that covers it :D

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Can you lads please leave your Tory vs Labour squabbling in the Brexit thread ffs? There is no difference whatsoever between them. None. Anyone that thinks there really actually is a difference is seriously naive. ALL politicians, no matter what party, what country, are lying corrupt cùnts whose main priority is to feather their own nest first and foremost, and anything that might help their country is a completely secondary consideration, if even that. :roll:

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