Ah right. Sorry mate I misunderstood your point about the cup. I did think it strange when I first read it, because like myself you are on record as loving the "unfashionable" cups!SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:33 amFair enough. For the record, I've never talked down the cup win.....in fact, despite all my misgivings about him I reserved special praise for the difficult run we had to win that cup and some of the performances that went with it. My point about the cup is that for a club like us, is it really enough to cling to one FA cup win as the basis of a long term managerial future when lesser managers have won the cup too. Doesn't detract from the wins that were needed to win the cupDB10GOONER wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:22 amOh ffs mate. What a patronising statement. Honestly sometimes I wonder is there another forum you are on and you mix up the two!SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:37 amNo gratification whatsoever - just nice to finally see some acceptance on here over the last few weeks that the mythical improvement was exactly that - a myth. When the stats weren't enough to dismiss the 'progression' talk, the usual arguments were about how much better we were against the big teams (myth), and how much better we were defensively (myth). Oh....and of course the previous manager had lost the dressing room whilst being unified under this goon (myth).g88ner wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:21 amComparing Arteta to Emery for the millionth time Steveo what weird gratification are you getting out of this sick perversion?SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:11 am75 games in charge - just 3 more before he's equalled Emery's number of games in charge. If he wins all 3 of them he'll still be 2 short of the total managed by the "spineless clown". He's already lost 2 more than Emery
From 8th to 11th
Ahh....but "we're more competitive against the big teams"
Record against Liverpool, Man City, Man United, Chelsea and Spurs this season - played 9, won 3, drawn 1, lost 5, scored 7 conceded 12
His record in the league against those same teams when he took over least season - played 6, won 2, drawn 1, lost 3, scored 8 conceded 10
So, we've lost more than half of those games and averaged a goal per game - wow, be still my beating heart
No improvement whatsoever, just regression. We don't defend better, we sure as hell don't attack better, we aren't any better against the big teams, the squad isn't playing for the manager, there is no idea of what the formation or best XI is.
75 games in charge. When is too long?
Bottom line mate is both Emery and Arteta have a worse record than Wenger’s last 50 games so both well deserve the sack.
If we lose to Slavia or in the semi final, I think there’s a SLIM chance Arteta might be sacked in the summer. He certainly deserves it! Doubt he will though.
You are implying that almost everyone on here was in favour of Arteta getting the job and that almost everyone was hailing him as doing a good job up until recently when you finally convinced us all that you were right all along.
Read back through the threads. No one that I can recall wanted him. And only sid and maybe one or two others were hailing him as a good manager accomplishing all those things you list as myths for any period at all after those improvements had ceased. And even those few are now firmly in the Arteta out camp. The vast majority saw through him within a few weeks.
Also most of those "myths" you list were facts at one point. We did have those improvements under him. But they should be viewed within context. They were very shortlived, most likely down to the new manager "bounce" rather than any ability he has, and I can't find anyone on here still quoting them as current improvements since that time. The the only person that keeps bringing them up is you!
The FA Cup win was brilliant and to talk it down is poor form, especially as in other threads you criticise managers that don't take the cup seriously. But also I don't recall anyone saying he should get the job with no consequences because he won the cup.
Like g88ner, I also don't get the constant Emery referencing. Emery was sacked because he was not good enough. He humiliated the club with that cup final loss to the chav, he had no plan, no system, the team under him in that second half of his last season were as bad if not worse than anything under Wenger and he bottled the easiest run in we've ever had.
The current idiot is as bad and in many ways worse and he too should be sacked. I don't know how many times everyone on here has to say that before you believe you ate not the only one saying it!
I still think there are elements of the media that need to wake up to these myths. I posted on here after last weekend that the lot on Sky were stunned that his first 50 PL games were worse than both Emery's first 50, and Wenger's last 50........I don't know what they've been watching all this time if its still a surprise
Anyway, I wouldn't want Emery back - never wanted him to start with. I just can't fucking stand seeing someone WORSE than him in the job.....it absolutely fucking kills me seeing us behave like Derby County taking a punt on Lampard and Rooney as managers. Like the vast majority of us, I just want the fucker gone tomorrow
Tbh I still find it unbelievable that a huge world famous storied club like the Arsenal have basically taken a punt on a novice. It still blows my mind. The bewigged parasite is killing this great club.