Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

[DB10GOONER]

As West Brom likes to sign up members from the Get Rich by Getting Sacked Shit managers club(chairman is Fat Sam). I am going to predict that Arteta will be the West Brom Manager within 5 years.

*also known as the Shit Managers Merry-go-round. Honorary Life Secretary Tony Pulis.

[SteveO 35]

As West Brom likes to sign up members from the Get Rich by Getting Sacked Shit managers club(chairman is Fat Sam). I am going to predict that Arteta will be the West Brom Manager within 5 years.

*also known as the Shit Managers Merry-go-round. Honorary Life Secretary Tony Pulis.

Poor old Baggies. They've had some proper c.unts and now they're faced with "we lacked urgency" in a few years time

Still....if the Spanish Paul McKenna hypnotises their fans too they'll be claiming they're going in the right direction when they're 17th in the Championship

[Nos89]

Arteta has come under extreme criticism for the way Aubameyang left the club. The strict rules he has installed at the club were needed. He's moved out both ozil and Aubameyang the two highest earners at the club in recent years. Is it a cost cutting exercise or poor management? Truth is both players had stopped delivering for the team. Irking a number of supporters with their lack of effort on the pitch. Arteta manages them out the club and gets slaughtered for it. Unfortunately, sometimes as a manager there is only so many times you can put your arm around a player and motivate them, only to be constantly let down. In the end both players had to go, and most on this forum called for those players to go. Now they've gone it seems unfair to criticise the manager for getting rid of them.

[DB10GOONER]

As West Brom likes to sign up members from the Get Rich by Getting Sacked Shit managers club(chairman is Fat Sam). I am going to predict that Arteta will be the West Brom Manager within 5 years.

*also known as the Shit Managers Merry-go-round. Honorary Life Secretary Tony Pulis.

Poor old Baggies. They've had some proper c.unts and now they're faced with "we lacked urgency" in a few years time

Still....if the Spanish Paul McKenna hypnotises their fans too they'll be claiming they're going in the right direction when they're 17th in the Championship

Superb SteveO. Superb.

[SteveO 35]

Arteta has come under extreme criticism for the way Aubameyang left the club. The strict rules he has installed at the club were needed. He's moved out both ozil and Aubameyang the two highest earners at the club in recent years. Is it a cost cutting exercise or poor management? Truth is both players had stopped delivering for the team. Irking a number of supporters with their lack of effort on the pitch. Arteta manages them out the club and gets slaughtered for it. Unfortunately, sometimes as a manager there is only so many times you can put your arm around a player and motivate them, only to be constantly let down. In the end both players had to go, and most on this forum called for those players to go. Now they've gone it seems unfair to criticise the manager for getting rid of them.

I have no problem with the disciplinarian approach as long as it applies in equal measure to on and off field conduct

George was a master at it. Don't be late, be smart and conduct yourself well...now't wrong with that. But he also wouldn't tolerate stupid sloppy shit on the field either. Steve Williams immediately springs to mind. That shithouse c.unt Clive Clubfoot would have been out of this club years ago for the amount of times he's fucked us over

[DB10GOONER]

Arteta has come under extreme criticism for the way Aubameyang left the club. The strict rules he has installed at the club were needed. He's moved out both ozil and Aubameyang the two highest earners at the club in recent years. Is it a cost cutting exercise or poor management? Truth is both players had stopped delivering for the team. Irking a number of supporters with their lack of effort on the pitch. Arteta manages them out the club and gets slaughtered for it. Unfortunately, sometimes as a manager there is only so many times you can put your arm around a player and motivate them, only to be constantly let down. In the end both players had to go, and most on this forum called for those players to go. Now they've gone it seems unfair to criticise the manager for getting rid of them.

I have no problem with the disciplinarian approach as long as it applies in equal measure to on and off field conduct

George was a master at it. Don't be late, be smart and conduct yourself well...now't wrong with that. But he also wouldn't tolerate stupid sloppy shit on the field either. Steve Williams immediately springs to mind. That shithouse c.unt Clive Clubfoot would have been out of this club years ago for the amount of times he's fucked us over

George. Legend. Love the man.

He's gotten so old looking now it worries me. Can't find any more up to date photos than this 2021 article from the Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... raham/amp/

I always think of George as that dapper man in his 40s that made Arsenal great again.

[SteveO 35]

Arteta has come under extreme criticism for the way Aubameyang left the club. The strict rules he has installed at the club were needed. He's moved out both ozil and Aubameyang the two highest earners at the club in recent years. Is it a cost cutting exercise or poor management? Truth is both players had stopped delivering for the team. Irking a number of supporters with their lack of effort on the pitch. Arteta manages them out the club and gets slaughtered for it. Unfortunately, sometimes as a manager there is only so many times you can put your arm around a player and motivate them, only to be constantly let down. In the end both players had to go, and most on this forum called for those players to go. Now they've gone it seems unfair to criticise the manager for getting rid of them.

I have no problem with the disciplinarian approach as long as it applies in equal measure to on and off field conduct

George was a master at it. Don't be late, be smart and conduct yourself well...now't wrong with that. But he also wouldn't tolerate stupid sloppy shit on the field either. Steve Williams immediately springs to mind. That shithouse c.unt Clive Clubfoot would have been out of this club years ago for the amount of times he's fucked us over

George. Legend. Love the man.

He's gotten so old looking now it worries me. Can't find any more up to date photos than this 2021 article from the Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... raham/amp/

I always think of George as that dapper man in his 40s that made Arsenal great again.

Absolute legend mate. Was the man who first made the Arsenal successful for my generation. Yeah we won the FA Cup in 79 and I loved that, but we were also rans until this man came along. Valued leaders and got rid of wankers - imagine that sack of shit prick Xhaka playing for him?

[DB10GOONER]

Arteta has come under extreme criticism for the way Aubameyang left the club. The strict rules he has installed at the club were needed. He's moved out both ozil and Aubameyang the two highest earners at the club in recent years. Is it a cost cutting exercise or poor management? Truth is both players had stopped delivering for the team. Irking a number of supporters with their lack of effort on the pitch. Arteta manages them out the club and gets slaughtered for it. Unfortunately, sometimes as a manager there is only so many times you can put your arm around a player and motivate them, only to be constantly let down. In the end both players had to go, and most on this forum called for those players to go. Now they've gone it seems unfair to criticise the manager for getting rid of them.

I have no problem with the disciplinarian approach as long as it applies in equal measure to on and off field conduct

George was a master at it. Don't be late, be smart and conduct yourself well...now't wrong with that. But he also wouldn't tolerate stupid sloppy shit on the field either. Steve Williams immediately springs to mind. That shithouse c.unt Clive Clubfoot would have been out of this club years ago for the amount of times he's fucked us over

George. Legend. Love the man.

He's gotten so old looking now it worries me. Can't find any more up to date photos than this 2021 article from the Sun:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... raham/amp/

I always think of George as that dapper man in his 40s that made Arsenal great again.

Absolute legend mate. Was the man who first made the Arsenal successful for my generation. Yeah we won the FA Cup in 79 and I loved that, but we were also rans until this man came along. Valued leaders and got rid of wankers - imagine that sack of shit prick Xhaka playing for him?

Similarly, I was a kid in 79 and a teen when George took over and brought the greatness back to the Arsenal. George will always be our greatest manager to me. It was a great time to be a Gooner.

Clive? GG would have slung the dizzy fucker after that first season, two at tops.

[mcdowell42]

George Graham an absolute legend

[gooner265]

Arteta has come under extreme criticism for the way Aubameyang left the club. The strict rules he has installed at the club were needed. He's moved out both ozil and Aubameyang the two highest earners at the club in recent years. Is it a cost cutting exercise or poor management? Truth is both players had stopped delivering for the team. Irking a number of supporters with their lack of effort on the pitch. Arteta manages them out the club and gets slaughtered for it. Unfortunately, sometimes as a manager there is only so many times you can put your arm around a player and motivate them, only to be constantly let down. In the end both players had to go, and most on this forum called for those players to go. Now they've gone it seems unfair to criticise the manager for getting rid of them.

I have no problem with the disciplinarian approach as long as it applies in equal measure to on and off field conduct

George was a master at it. Don't be late, be smart and conduct yourself well...now't wrong with that. But he also wouldn't tolerate stupid sloppy shit on the field either. Steve Williams immediately springs to mind. That shithouse c.unt Clive Clubfoot would have been out of this club years ago for the amount of times he's fucked us over

And therein lies the problem, a lot of fans won't accept Arteta whatever he does because Xhaka is still here and I totally get that . I'm still gobsmacked how so many managers play him and make him captain when they have no issue getting rid of other players that dont playy ball .

I do believe if Arteta had fired him off in his early days he'd be cut a bit more slack on this forum . It's incredible how one player has helped steer fans opinions and in my 40 years of supporting this team never known a player with the power to bias opinion, I've never hated an Arsenal player so much and there have been plenty of contenders, Wenger should have been sacked for signing him alone let alone anyone else. Wenger's words were apparently 'I can't believe he can't tackle ' when he first signed him .

[gooner265]

George Graham an absolute legend

Absolutely and without him Wenger would have won fuck all !

He was harsh on Paul Davis though , glad he proved him wrong

[gooner265]

Fast forward to end of May

Finish 8th or lower

Discuss

I still say 5th as I said beginning of season , then a big summer with Xhaka finally going.

5th.....so back to where we were 3 years ago, yay!

Joking aside I admire your optimism mate, truly. I'd be happier with 5th than 4th anyway, as we have no place in that cup. Xhaka going - I'll believe it when I see it

I'm a glass half full person , I know a rarity on this site but are we a better side than when he took over , I'd say yes . He has got rid of most of the deadwood now and will finish that in the summer including Xhaka I believe , we are only missing a few pieces now.

A big few months for him coming up , I will give him that including the summer which is huge.

[Nos89]

Arteta has come under extreme criticism for the way Aubameyang left the club. The strict rules he has installed at the club were needed. He's moved out both ozil and Aubameyang the two highest earners at the club in recent years. Is it a cost cutting exercise or poor management? Truth is both players had stopped delivering for the team. Irking a number of supporters with their lack of effort on the pitch. Arteta manages them out the club and gets slaughtered for it. Unfortunately, sometimes as a manager there is only so many times you can put your arm around a player and motivate them, only to be constantly let down. In the end both players had to go, and most on this forum called for those players to go. Now they've gone it seems unfair to criticise the manager for getting rid of them.

I have no problem with the disciplinarian approach as long as it applies in equal measure to on and off field conduct

George was a master at it. Don't be late, be smart and conduct yourself well...now't wrong with that. But he also wouldn't tolerate stupid sloppy shit on the field either. Steve Williams immediately springs to mind. That shithouse c.unt Clive Clubfoot would have been out of this club years ago for the amount of times he's fucked us over

Problem with xhaka is that he appears to be a model professional does and says the right things. He was lucky when arteta arrived as he was on his way out the door. New manager, new chances. The fact that both Pep and Mourinho were sniffing round him probably led to arteta keeping him. I think Graham would've loved the way he conducted himself around the training ground with the squad. He kept on playing John Jensen who I'd say was about as effective as xhaka. Under Graham telling the fans to "fuck off" would have been dealt internally and probably remained at the club. In that era it was disrespecting the club badge that would've seen a player escorted to the nearest exit.

[SteveO 35]

Arteta has come under extreme criticism for the way Aubameyang left the club. The strict rules he has installed at the club were needed. He's moved out both ozil and Aubameyang the two highest earners at the club in recent years. Is it a cost cutting exercise or poor management? Truth is both players had stopped delivering for the team. Irking a number of supporters with their lack of effort on the pitch. Arteta manages them out the club and gets slaughtered for it. Unfortunately, sometimes as a manager there is only so many times you can put your arm around a player and motivate them, only to be constantly let down. In the end both players had to go, and most on this forum called for those players to go. Now they've gone it seems unfair to criticise the manager for getting rid of them.

I have no problem with the disciplinarian approach as long as it applies in equal measure to on and off field conduct

George was a master at it. Don't be late, be smart and conduct yourself well...now't wrong with that. But he also wouldn't tolerate stupid sloppy shit on the field either. Steve Williams immediately springs to mind. That shithouse c.unt Clive Clubfoot would have been out of this club years ago for the amount of times he's fucked us over

And therein lies the problem, a lot of fans won't accept Arteta whatever he does because Xhaka is still here and I totally get that . I'm still gobsmacked how so many managers play him and make him captain when they have no issue getting rid of other players that dont playy ball .

I do believe if Arteta had fired him off in his early days he'd be cut a bit more slack on this forum . It's incredible how one player has helped steer fans opinions and in my 40 years of supporting this team never known a player with the power to bias opinion, I've never hated an Arsenal player so much and there have been plenty of contenders, Wenger should have been sacked for signing him alone let alone anyone else. Wenger's words were apparently 'I can't believe he can't tackle ' when he first signed him .

It's the fact that Arteta restored his senior position in the squad, dissuaded him from leaving and has made him a virtual ever present that's the worry for me. The bloke was lined up to go - most likely on loan admittedly - heading into January 2020. Dick was fired, the Spanish Paul McKenna came in and the rest is history. I'm not saying Dick didn't deserve stick for playing him too, and yes he did play one single game for him in a EL dead rubber prior to his sacking, but I sincerely believe the gormless clubfoot c.unt was going. He refused to blame himself for telling us all to f+++ off and that incident together with losing the captaincy was fresh in the mind. He still hates the fans to this day and when he does eventually take his sorry ass out of this club, I know he won't hesitate to say how terrible we all are and how badly we treated him. I'm afraid Arteta has placed enormous faith in this dope and you have to live or die by your decisions. The fact he's still a regular despite the endless gormless red cards and individual errors is a fucking travesty

[GoonerMuzz]

I'd just like to point out yet again that prior to the CP incident the only player who played more for Emery than Xhaka was PEA, when the incident happened he was then only passed by Mustafi by one more game I believe. So it hardly shows a Manager desperate to get rid of a player in fact I'd bet my pension if the CP incident hadn't happened there would have been no talk of Emery getting rid of Xhaka, revisionism is a disease of the mind.