Finishing Position for This Season (merged thread)

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What Will Be Arsenal's Finishing Position This Season?

Poll ended at Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:48 pm

In the Top 4.
1
3%
In the Top 6.
10
28%
In the Top 8.
11
31%
In the Top Half of the Table
7
19%
In the Bottom Half of the Table
7
19%
Relegation Zone
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 36

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21-22 5th
20-21 8th
19-20 8th
18-19 5th
17-18 6th
16-17 5th

What a shower of utter shite these last 6 seasons have been.

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falkirk goon wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 9:41 am
21-22 5th
20-21 8th
19-20 8th
18-19 5th
17-18 6th
16-17 5th

What a shower of utter shite these last 6 seasons have been.
If we statistically follow the above format or pattern next season; should arteta still be at the wheel we will 8th. :?

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I was the only person that went with 4th place finish. I don't think that was optimistic. I have said on here that was based on Arteta getting sacked by October and we appoint Conte. It looks like Levy read that and actioned it.
Disappointed we didn't finish in the top 4 as we had in our hands. Decisions in January and injuries to key defenders at crucial times led to our collapse. Being without Tomi, Tierney, Partey and White in the title run in killed our defensive strength. But we should have kept the players that are more than adequate to fill those gaps, namely AMN, and Chambers.
We had no European football to detract and 4th was the absolute minimum position we should've reached.
Given that we have 8 players returning from loan spells the squad will be stronger, and it's imperative we build on it.

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Nos89 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:00 pm
I was the only person that went with 4th place finish. I don't think that was optimistic. I have said on here that was based on Arteta getting sacked by October and we appoint Conte. It looks like Levy read that and actioned it.
Disappointed we didn't finish in the top 4 as we had in our hands. Decisions in January and injuries to key defenders at crucial times led to our collapse. Being without Tomi, Tierney, Partey and White in the title run in killed our defensive strength. But we should have kept the players that are more than adequate to fill those gaps, namely AMN, and Chambers.
We had no European football to detract and 4th was the absolute minimum position we should've reached.
Given that we have 8 players returning from loan spells the squad will be stronger, and it's imperative we build on it.
Other than Saliba I cannot think of any other player; returning from a loan spell) who will make us "Stronger" - The squad will be Bigger, but with the likes of Bellerin and Balogun returning they are simply not good enough and can be ranked along with the likes of Holding, Clive, Nketiah et al.

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:41 pm
Nos89 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:00 pm
I was the only person that went with 4th place finish. I don't think that was optimistic. I have said on here that was based on Arteta getting sacked by October and we appoint Conte. It looks like Levy read that and actioned it.
Disappointed we didn't finish in the top 4 as we had in our hands. Decisions in January and injuries to key defenders at crucial times led to our collapse. Being without Tomi, Tierney, Partey and White in the title run in killed our defensive strength. But we should have kept the players that are more than adequate to fill those gaps, namely AMN, and Chambers.
We had no European football to detract and 4th was the absolute minimum position we should've reached.
Given that we have 8 players returning from loan spells the squad will be stronger, and it's imperative we build on it.
Other than Saliba I cannot think of any other player; returning from a loan spell) who will make us "Stronger" - The squad will be Bigger, but with the likes of Bellerin and Balogun returning they are simply not good enough and can be ranked along with the likes of Holding, Clive, Nketiah et al.
Its a bit early to write off Balogun IMO

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Nos89 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:00 pm
I was the only person that went with 4th place finish. I don't think that was optimistic. I have said on here that was based on Arteta getting sacked by October and we appoint Conte. It looks like Levy read that and actioned it.
I wonder what Levy’s user name is?

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gooner265 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 3:18 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:41 pm
Nos89 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:00 pm
I was the only person that went with 4th place finish. I don't think that was optimistic. I have said on here that was based on Arteta getting sacked by October and we appoint Conte. It looks like Levy read that and actioned it.
Disappointed we didn't finish in the top 4 as we had in our hands. Decisions in January and injuries to key defenders at crucial times led to our collapse. Being without Tomi, Tierney, Partey and White in the title run in killed our defensive strength. But we should have kept the players that are more than adequate to fill those gaps, namely AMN, and Chambers.
We had no European football to detract and 4th was the absolute minimum position we should've reached.
Given that we have 8 players returning from loan spells the squad will be stronger, and it's imperative we build on it.
Other than Saliba I cannot think of any other player; returning from a loan spell) who will make us "Stronger" - The squad will be Bigger, but with the likes of Bellerin and Balogun returning they are simply not good enough and can be ranked along with the likes of Holding, Clive, Nketiah et al.
Its a bit early to write off Balogun IMO
Well, Balogun was the one moaning to all and sundry in the media (we all know that's what players & their agents do when they want to stir it up and the manager isn't listening to them) saying he was going to refuse to sign a new contract and that there were other teams 'interested' in him.

From what I recall he was offered the chance and started in 3 or 4 games to show his worth and he failed miserably in each game; he looked out of his depth, both physically (which admittedly is an age thing) but also in his ability to read and so play the game.

Then having seen bits of him playing out on loan, again he was pretty poor and that was at Championship level. He doesn't seem to have improved much, if at all.

So for me fuck him off and het what money we can and pout that money to better use (*)


(*) Mind you having said that, Farteta is now looking to give Nketiah a wage rise and contract extension; so it could be a case of throwing good money after bad. :?

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wibble wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 4:47 pm
Nos89 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:00 pm
I was the only person that went with 4th place finish. I don't think that was optimistic. I have said on here that was based on Arteta getting sacked by October and we appoint Conte. It looks like Levy read that and actioned it.
I wonder what Levy’s user name is?
Baldy Twin Cun.t of Satan I think? :rubchin: :D

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More people on this forum predicted we would finish below 6th position this season. So why the disappointment, animosity towards the manager for finishing in 5t He delivered a finish way above most of your expectations, surely that means you should be happy with a 5th place?
If you all believed we'd finish top 4 then absolutely he under delivered and disappointment ensue. The rampant negativity on here is totally unreasonable and unjustified by your own expectations. Or are you all just disappointed Arteta delivered above your expectations for the season?

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Nos89 wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:42 pm
More people on this forum predicted we would finish below 6th position this season. So why the disappointment, animosity towards the manager for finishing in 5t He delivered a finish way above most of your expectations, surely that means you should be happy with a 5th place?
If you all believed we'd finish top 4 then absolutely he under delivered and disappointment ensue. The rampant negativity on here is totally unreasonable and unjustified by your own expectations. Or are you all just disappointed Arteta delivered above your expectations for the season?
That post and particularly your last comment is beneath you tbh.

The predictions are not our hopes for the season. It's what most felt we would achieve. A general "second tier" finish below the top four. Which is what we got. And let's be honest with our inconsistencies we could have finished anywhere from 5th to 8th which is within most people's range of predictions. Never forget the impact on our position of things like manure's shit season etc.

The disappointment and anger is because the manager and players absolutely bottled a good position in the run in and gave it to our rivals. How can you not understand that ffs?

I have no idea why you think everyone should be positive with the state of the club and team. I'm not going to re-list all of the issues as a quick glance through this or any match thread will tell you them. They are legitimate concerns.

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One things for certain there is zero hope of improving upon 5th place in the season ahead. Back in Europe with just about the smallest squad imaginable. We would need to add 7 or 8 players just to be competitive and we won't

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 7:21 am
Nos89 wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:42 pm
More people on this forum predicted we would finish below 6th position this season. So why the disappointment, animosity towards the manager for finishing in 5t He delivered a finish way above most of your expectations, surely that means you should be happy with a 5th place?
If you all believed we'd finish top 4 then absolutely he under delivered and disappointment ensue. The rampant negativity on here is totally unreasonable and unjustified by your own expectations. Or are you all just disappointed Arteta delivered above your expectations for the season?
That post and particularly your last comment is beneath you tbh.

The predictions are not our hopes for the season. It's what most felt we would achieve. A general "second tier" finish below the top four. Which is what we got. And let's be honest with our inconsistencies we could have finished anywhere from 5th to 8th which is within most people's range of predictions. Never forget the impact on our position of things like manure's shit season etc.

The disappointment and anger is because the manager and players absolutely bottled a good position in the run in and gave it to our rivals. How can you not understand that ffs?

I have no idea why you think everyone should be positive with the state of the club and team. I'm not going to re-list all of the issues as a quick glance through this or any match thread will tell you them. They are legitimate concerns.
I certainly don't expect everyone to be happy and "over the moon" at our finishing position. Obviously, I get the frustration of the team bottling it from the great position we were in. Just a bit surprised at how low the vitriol towards the team has been. If you had a low expectation to begin with, don't be fucked off when they live up to that low expectation. Place your expectations higher and maybe the team will deliver it. Personally, I'm disappointed with this season, but then I expected more given no European football.
Also, think the general standard of the league has dropped considerably over last 10 years.

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Nos89 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 7:42 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 7:21 am
Nos89 wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:42 pm
More people on this forum predicted we would finish below 6th position this season. So why the disappointment, animosity towards the manager for finishing in 5t He delivered a finish way above most of your expectations, surely that means you should be happy with a 5th place?
If you all believed we'd finish top 4 then absolutely he under delivered and disappointment ensue. The rampant negativity on here is totally unreasonable and unjustified by your own expectations. Or are you all just disappointed Arteta delivered above your expectations for the season?
That post and particularly your last comment is beneath you tbh.

The predictions are not our hopes for the season. It's what most felt we would achieve. A general "second tier" finish below the top four. Which is what we got. And let's be honest with our inconsistencies we could have finished anywhere from 5th to 8th which is within most people's range of predictions. Never forget the impact on our position of things like manure's shit season etc.

The disappointment and anger is because the manager and players absolutely bottled a good position in the run in and gave it to our rivals. How can you not understand that ffs?

I have no idea why you think everyone should be positive with the state of the club and team. I'm not going to re-list all of the issues as a quick glance through this or any match thread will tell you them. They are legitimate concerns.
I certainly don't expect everyone to be happy and "over the moon" at our finishing position. Obviously, I get the frustration of the team bottling it from the great position we were in. Just a bit surprised at how low the vitriol towards the team has been. If you had a low expectation to begin with, don't be fucked off when they live up to that low expectation. Place your expectations higher and maybe the team will deliver it. Personally, I'm disappointed with this season, but then I expected more given no European football.
Also, think the general standard of the league has dropped considerably over last 10 years.
Agree 100% with your last comment. I've been saying for years the myth of the PL is a SlySports facade. The standard has definitely dropped.

The best most enjoyable football I've watched was from about 1990 to about 2010. The English game still had enough left of that old school 60s/70s/80s English football blood and guts pace and power I love, but it was starting to cross over nicely with better technical football too and it was full of individual talents that took players on and were adventurous on the ball.

But from about 2010 (maybe even a bit earlier) it has steadily degenerated into an overthought system and formation obsessed game without much individual flair and full of diving and cheating.

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Nos89 wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:42 pm
More people on this forum predicted we would finish below 6th position this season. So why the disappointment, animosity towards the manager for finishing in 5t He delivered a finish way above most of your expectations, surely that means you should be happy with a 5th place?
If you all believed we'd finish top 4 then absolutely he under delivered and disappointment ensue. The rampant negativity on here is totally unreasonable and unjustified by your own expectations. Or are you all just disappointed Arteta delivered above your expectations for the season?
what a load of nonsense. our predictions were not what we wanted its what we were resigned to. We were dissapointed already hence our crummy prediction, to be proved right by the crumminess doesnt mean he lived up to expectations and we shouldnt be upset we are still annoyed tahts the best we can hope for under this clown. Awful season given al the conditions and unkess signinfncat signings are made we are fooked next season too.

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All this claptrap about finishing 5th being part of the master plan. Total bull shit is what that was. We choked. End of.

Finishing 5th is biting us harder in the arse than what goes on in Hampstead Heath on a Saturday night.

Nunez - United
Osimhen - United
Tielemans - Spurs
Any one else off to the top 4 plus United.

This is a sliding doors moment that will go down in our history as one of the biggest missed opportunities in a generation.

I predict a struggle to 6th next season. Followed by Saka, Martinelli and ESR out of the door to Liverpool and City.

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