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Shit for Brains saying that today was "unprecedented" and that it will be a totally different team in a few weeks time.
So, which players are we referring to who aren't available? Gabriel and White - would either of them have made a difference today? Paper ankles Partey? Lacazette?
Seriously, we've had seasons when we've had 10 players out at once and to think we'll have everyone available all of the time is nonsensical.
Please please please just fuck off now
Even worse to watch it in person. Arteta is clueless. Stands there clapping like a seal whether we are under the cosh or attacking. When they had gone down our left unopposed for the 5th time you start to think. What is it he has to see to make a change? Once we went behind our bottle went and we were a mess all over. He has zero chance of turning this around. Zero.
Exactly right mate, and a number of us on here were pointing out the obvious long before Reece James scored - it must have been the least surprising goal ever scored. He had Tierney in the team. He had his newly appointed captain and most 'natural' left footed midfielder in the team. He had his new left wing back on the bench. So what the f+++ these unprecedented circumstances are and quite who he would have picked to stop that problem had they been available is anyone's guess?
The bloke is going to do some serious damage if he's allowed to keep managing this club throughout this season. We are closer to being a Championship club than at any point in my lifetime
Couldnt face reading through all the posts in this match thread (I read the last 5 or 6 pages), but am amazed that pepe and soares werent mentioned in any of them Both were utter utter dogshite - one was dogshite cos that is his level (soares), and one was dogshite cos he is a lazy arsed useless c.unt who does not give a flying fcuk. Useless w>ankers both of them
As for pep's cone boy - will be shocked if he is sacked this side of christmas, and tbh I seen another wenger scenario unfolding where everytime he is set for the sack he will win a few games before taking us back to shit again
Sol Campbell summing it up well when he says we haven't got the quality these days, which is why you need to be hard to beat first
Exactly the reasons why we didn't want a Wengerball manager, and that's not hindsight as I said it at the time.
We need a manager who is going to make us hard to beat. Defenders like Mari and White - both his signings - aren't hard to beat. Full backs like Bellerin and Cedric aren't hard to beat. The flaky central midfield isn't hard to beat
We've got the whole approach completely wrong
Buy a time machine - go back to 1986 and get a manager in brave enough to bomb out big time charlie flaky c.unts and some tough lads at the back and then you might give the more promising kids a platform to play from as we did back then
we havnt got the quality...true
But then we are not buying quality...despite laying out huge sums
Burnley have got the smallest budget in the league and yet you'd back Mee and Tarkowski to give Lukaku more to think about than any of the centre backs Arteta has signed for more money.
He just isn't the bloke to lead us out of this. Sadly the type of managers who could improve it aren't fashionable enough for our marketing team, owners or modern super fans
It is the 3 games after City that will decide his fate.Two relegation 6 pointers then the Swamp dwellers.I can't remember going two games into a season and not scoring a goal and not looking likely to score either. They will be giving free home tickets to schools if he is allowed to carry on the process any longer.
It is the 3 games after City that will decide his fate.Two relegation 6 pointers then the Swamp dwellers.I can't remember going two games into a season and not scoring a goal and not looking likely to score either. They will be giving free home tickets to schools if he is allowed to carry on the process any longer.
The poor kids will be hoping for a lockdown if that happens!
For the last decade, we have been the most boring club in England. Nothing ever changes, nothing gets better, everything that can be said, has been said a million times before. The names and faces might change but the culture at the club just doesn't.
Sol Campbell summing it up well when he says we haven't got the quality these days, which is why you need to be hard to beat first
Exactly the reasons why we didn't want a Wengerball manager, and that's not hindsight as I said it at the time.
We need a manager who is going to make us hard to beat. Defenders like Mari and White - both his signings - aren't hard to beat. Full backs like Bellerin and Cedric aren't hard to beat. The flaky central midfield isn't hard to beat
We've got the whole approach completely wrong
Buy a time machine - go back to 1986 and get a manager in brave enough to bomb out big time charlie flaky c.unts and some tough lads at the back and then you might give the more promising kids a platform to play from as we did back then
we havnt got the quality...true
But then we are not buying quality...despite laying out huge sums
Burnley have got the smallest budget in the league and yet you'd back Mee and Tarkowski to give Lukaku more to think about than any of the centre backs Arteta has signed for more money.
He just isn't the bloke to lead us out of this. Sadly the type of managers who could improve it aren't fashionable enough for our marketing team, owners or modern super fans
I was having this conversation yesterday. Would take players like that in an instant in our current predicament and we signed the wrong Centre back from Brighton. Dunk would be far more useful to us than White. And the other big lump they have but can't remember his his name atm. You know the one, the player we had Bellerin marking at corners last season.
Couldnt face reading through all the posts in this match thread (I read the last 5 or 6 pages), but am amazed that pepe and soares werent mentioned in any of them Both were utter utter dogshite - one was dogshite cos that is his level (soares), and one was dogshite cos he is a lazy arsed useless c.unt who does not give a flying fcuk. Useless w>ankers both of them
As for pep's cone boy - will be shocked if he is sacked this side of christmas, and tbh I seen another wenger scenario unfolding where everytime he is set for the sack he will win a few games before taking us back to shit again
You should have gone back a few more pages, I absolutely fucking slated Pepe, shit at corners, shit at crosses, shit at dribbling, shit at beating his man, shit at everything.
Sol Campbell summing it up well when he says we haven't got the quality these days, which is why you need to be hard to beat first
Exactly the reasons why we didn't want a Wengerball manager, and that's not hindsight as I said it at the time.
We need a manager who is going to make us hard to beat. Defenders like Mari and White - both his signings - aren't hard to beat. Full backs like Bellerin and Cedric aren't hard to beat. The flaky central midfield isn't hard to beat
We've got the whole approach completely wrong
Buy a time machine - go back to 1986 and get a manager in brave enough to bomb out big time charlie flaky c.unts and some tough lads at the back and then you might give the more promising kids a platform to play from as we did back then
we havnt got the quality...true
But then we are not buying quality...despite laying out huge sums
Burnley have got the smallest budget in the league and yet you'd back Mee and Tarkowski to give Lukaku more to think about than any of the centre backs Arteta has signed for more money.
He just isn't the bloke to lead us out of this. Sadly the type of managers who could improve it aren't fashionable enough for our marketing team, owners or modern super fans
I was having this conversation yesterday. Would take players like that in an instant in our current predicament and we signed the wrong Centre back from Brighton. Dunk would be far more useful to us than White. And the other big lump they have but can't remember his his name atm. You know the one, the player we had Bellerin marking at corners last season.
Yes indeed, Dunk would be exactly what's needed - a proper organiser, aerially dominant and a leader of men. All of things not valued by our club these days. Ben Mee wouldn't be a bad signing either. Probably did White a favour not being available today because coming off the back of the Brentford mauling I think he would be in the spotlight even more for all the wrong reasons
Sol Campbell summing it up well when he says we haven't got the quality these days, which is why you need to be hard to beat first
Exactly the reasons why we didn't want a Wengerball manager, and that's not hindsight as I said it at the time.
We need a manager who is going to make us hard to beat. Defenders like Mari and White - both his signings - aren't hard to beat. Full backs like Bellerin and Cedric aren't hard to beat. The flaky central midfield isn't hard to beat
We've got the whole approach completely wrong
Buy a time machine - go back to 1986 and get a manager in brave enough to bomb out big time charlie flaky c.unts and some tough lads at the back and then you might give the more promising kids a platform to play from as we did back then
we havnt got the quality...true
But then we are not buying quality...despite laying out huge sums
Burnley have got the smallest budget in the league and yet you'd back Mee and Tarkowski to give Lukaku more to think about than any of the centre backs Arteta has signed for more money.
He just isn't the bloke to lead us out of this. Sadly the type of managers who could improve it aren't fashionable enough for our marketing team, owners or modern super fans
Ah yes true Burnley but havnt got the quaity or the money either...but they play to their strengths ....like Stoke and Bolton when they used to play us...and turn us over
We were technically far superior...but as we know if you are really motivated and coached well, everyone knows their jobs you can even it up....
its not just a matter of quality although thats a good starting point
Saying that the Arsenal should be challenging for major honours at Burnley and teams like them its basically survival and thats how they are set up
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Sol Campbell summing it up well when he says we haven't got the quality these days, which is why you need to be hard to beat first
Exactly the reasons why we didn't want a Wengerball manager, and that's not hindsight as I said it at the time.
We need a manager who is going to make us hard to beat. Defenders like Mari and White - both his signings - aren't hard to beat. Full backs like Bellerin and Cedric aren't hard to beat. The flaky central midfield isn't hard to beat
We've got the whole approach completely wrong
Buy a time machine - go back to 1986 and get a manager in brave enough to bomb out big time charlie flaky c.unts and some tough lads at the back and then you might give the more promising kids a platform to play from as we did back then
we havnt got the quality...true
But then we are not buying quality...despite laying out huge sums
Burnley have got the smallest budget in the league and yet you'd back Mee and Tarkowski to give Lukaku more to think about than any of the centre backs Arteta has signed for more money.
He just isn't the bloke to lead us out of this. Sadly the type of managers who could improve it aren't fashionable enough for our marketing team, owners or modern super fans
I was having this conversation yesterday. Would take players like that in an instant in our current predicament and we signed the wrong Centre back from Brighton. Dunk would be far more useful to us than White. And the other big lump they have but can't remember his his name atm. You know the one, the player we had Bellerin marking at corners last season.
Yes indeed, Dunk would be exactly what's needed - a proper organiser, aerially dominant and a leader of men. All of things not valued by our club these days. Ben Mee wouldn't be a bad signing either. Probably did White a favour not being available today because coming off the back of the Brentford mauling I think he would be in the spotlight even more for all the wrong reasons
yes agree with the Dunk comments...dont write off Ben White as never really noticed him before....although looking at Brighton would also take Bissouma to add something to our midfield....like that fella strong and dominating in the midfield....also like Saar at Watford
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But then we are not buying quality...despite laying out huge sums
Burnley have got the smallest budget in the league and yet you'd back Mee and Tarkowski to give Lukaku more to think about than any of the centre backs Arteta has signed for more money.
He just isn't the bloke to lead us out of this. Sadly the type of managers who could improve it aren't fashionable enough for our marketing team, owners or modern super fans
I was having this conversation yesterday. Would take players like that in an instant in our current predicament and we signed the wrong Centre back from Brighton. Dunk would be far more useful to us than White. And the other big lump they have but can't remember his his name atm. You know the one, the player we had Bellerin marking at corners last season.
Yes indeed, Dunk would be exactly what's needed - a proper organiser, aerially dominant and a leader of men. All of things not valued by our club these days. Ben Mee wouldn't be a bad signing either. Probably did White a favour not being available today because coming off the back of the Brentford mauling I think he would be in the spotlight even more for all the wrong reasons
yes agree with the Dunk comments...dont write off Ben White as never really noticed him before....although looking at Brighton would also take Bissouma to add something to our midfield....like that fella strong and dominating in the midfield
The fact that we are pointing out players from Brighton, Burnley etc to improve us is a sign of where we are today......and exactly why a more appropriate manager needs to be appointed. We aren't one thing or another now - not tough to beat, not a counter attack or high press team, not a possession based team. Its hard to figure out what we are now
Burnley have got the smallest budget in the league and yet you'd back Mee and Tarkowski to give Lukaku more to think about than any of the centre backs Arteta has signed for more money.
He just isn't the bloke to lead us out of this. Sadly the type of managers who could improve it aren't fashionable enough for our marketing team, owners or modern super fans
I was having this conversation yesterday. Would take players like that in an instant in our current predicament and we signed the wrong Centre back from Brighton. Dunk would be far more useful to us than White. And the other big lump they have but can't remember his his name atm. You know the one, the player we had Bellerin marking at corners last season.
Yes indeed, Dunk would be exactly what's needed - a proper organiser, aerially dominant and a leader of men. All of things not valued by our club these days. Ben Mee wouldn't be a bad signing either. Probably did White a favour not being available today because coming off the back of the Brentford mauling I think he would be in the spotlight even more for all the wrong reasons
yes agree with the Dunk comments...dont write off Ben White as never really noticed him before....although looking at Brighton would also take Bissouma to add something to our midfield....like that fella strong and dominating in the midfield
The fact that we are pointing out players from Brighton, Burnley etc to improve us is a sign of where we are today......and exactly why a more appropriate manager needs to be appointed. We aren't one thing or another now - not tough to beat, not a counter attack or high press team, not a possession based team. Its hard to figure out what we are now
Sad to think the clubs identity is gone,actually the only identity we do have is clueless and gutless,and we now get to hear that from everyone,other fans and media,
Burnley have got the smallest budget in the league and yet you'd back Mee and Tarkowski to give Lukaku more to think about than any of the centre backs Arteta has signed for more money.
He just isn't the bloke to lead us out of this. Sadly the type of managers who could improve it aren't fashionable enough for our marketing team, owners or modern super fans
I was having this conversation yesterday. Would take players like that in an instant in our current predicament and we signed the wrong Centre back from Brighton. Dunk would be far more useful to us than White. And the other big lump they have but can't remember his his name atm. You know the one, the player we had Bellerin marking at corners last season.
Yes indeed, Dunk would be exactly what's needed - a proper organiser, aerially dominant and a leader of men. All of things not valued by our club these days. Ben Mee wouldn't be a bad signing either. Probably did White a favour not being available today because coming off the back of the Brentford mauling I think he would be in the spotlight even more for all the wrong reasons
yes agree with the Dunk comments...dont write off Ben White as never really noticed him before....although looking at Brighton would also take Bissouma to add something to our midfield....like that fella strong and dominating in the midfield
The fact that we are pointing out players from Brighton, Burnley etc to improve us is a sign of where we are today......and exactly why a more appropriate manager needs to be appointed. We aren't one thing or another now - not tough to beat, not a counter attack or high press team, not a possession based team. Its hard to figure out what we are now
Agreed we are a mess under Arteta...he started with the high press but thats faded now...you need high energy players to implement.....
but as for Bissouma he will go to a top club no doubt about that...Saar at watford is another
cant see any change coming soon either under arteta
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