Hang on mate. You were digging out posters here for slagging off the players, now you are having a go because they are not slagging them off enough?Jayives wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:35 amAnd I totally agree with that quote it’s not always about tactics and organisation which helps but isn’t the be all and end all.Redarmy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:43 amNo doubt these complicated football tacticans make a very good liiving out of it but football is a simple game all about the quality of the playersJayives wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:09 pmWe have improved and anyone without blinkers can see it.GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:42 pmGenuine question, setting aside the current league position and improved players in certain positions, can someone please explain to me where the improved structure is?
We are still being destroyed by the top teams and we are still struggling quite often against some of the lower teams. For me there has been little to no change since Wenger was in charge. Personnel change but the outcome remains the say, improvement isnt necessarily us beating the Chavs, City or the Victims but not getting dicked by 3 or 4 goals would be.
The same goes for the lower teams it's not like we are regularly scoring 3 or 4 against them, sometimes we are grinding out 1-1 or 1-0 games, again this is quite often where we were under Wenger, except under Wenger even in later years we would smash the odd team 5-0, I cant remember the last time we did that outside a lower league cup side or crap Euro team.
Arteta unfortunately flatters to deceive, the team he is putting together is being built to challenge in future years but they are just too inexperienced currently and his managerial naivety is nowhere more apparent than the players he bought in the summer. You cannot build a team without a good levening of experience to teach the youngster and reign them in when required, even Fergies 'team of kids' had a solid core of vastly experienced players both in the team and the squad
The tactics and set up he’s implemented are based on the JPG concept for football. It works in many games and we are undoubtedly harder to beat in some of the tougher games and not generally shipping as many goals.
If you don’t understand our football has changed from watching (despite it being obvious ) read below for an explanation on the concept
https://spielverlagerung.com/2014/11/26 ... planation/
Our win ratio under Arteta against the bigger sides is currently better than under wenger and last night was the first time united have beaten us under his management in the league and they needed us to gift them a penalty to do it.
Every once in a while it’s good to examine facts rather than unconditional hatred.
We are still missing some key players and I’m sure Arteta could do with a prime Alexis Sanchez or Van Persie however tactically despite everything being said we are well set up and organised. Our problems lie with inexperience and naivety and that is hard for the manager to affect
As Brian Clough once said
"Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes."
So why are people always only ever talking about our manager in the weird most bizarre and obsessive way rather than stating the obvious which is .. we haven’t got 2 players in our squad as good as Ronaldo and Fernandes. That’s the unfortunate truth.
The problem is a simple one. Forget the football snob theories and statistical analysis guff.
Here's the problem: we have a squad of mostly poor to average players, a couple of good experienced pros, and a couple of potentially world class youngsters - but they are managed by an egocentric novice that is not experienced enough or pragmatic enough to get the best out of what he has in the squad. That's where an experienced manager is worth his weight in gold. He's seen it all, done it all, and uses that experience to inform his decisions on how he plays the squad and specific players that he has. He doesn't theorise and fantasise about the way he wants to play unless he has the quality of player to accomplish that.
Football is really that simple.
Some day Martinez-Lite might be experienced enough and humble enough to learn that and he might become a top manager, but Arsenal are far far too big a club for him to spend five or ten years learning his trade.