Beegee doo v The Ginger cum gargler H Sun 23rd Jan KO 2pm

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Couldn’t even score at home to bottom of the table Burnley. More red cards than goals in 2022.

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This was a replay of last years game without the goal at the death. Oh for a real CF !. :barscarf: :barscarf:

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What is very noticeable:

Ramsey has started to make errors (as in more than one or two per game) Before he looked solid and safe and was also commanding the defence, urging the back-line on and what to do.

Saka has become in-effective; not from a lack of trying or effort, but opposition have seen how he can damage them so they are doubling or even tripling up on him, but Arteta hasn't taken this into account tactically and seems to be expecting him to beat 2 - 3 defenders and either score or put the ball into the danger areas, he just cannot do it - he needs support.

Laca has become isolated and so cannot hold & share the ball

Mid-field (yeah! Right - what midfield) is a Mess, with the opposition waltzing through us at will.

We haven't played anywhere near as many games as those in European competition/s and yet we looked Exhausted an at a loss of what to do - as in No Plan B or C - especially when the opposition park the bus to hit us on the break.

There is a distinct lack of "Spirit'" in the whole squad - as if someone has died and they are all mourning or something... Weird.

We were playing really well till Clive was selected again - and then Bingo! Red card against $hitty and we are Awful again. Had we won that game which was on the cards - It would have boosted our confidence, but of course all that effort etc went un-rewarded because of CliveElCUNTO - Who will walk straight back into the team because our idiot manager loves him.

I think farteta is asking Too Much of the youngsters - We do not have the kind of experienced players needed to lead them, Laca is trying his best but again is isolated and not the player he was.

And of course the Auba situation is hanging around like a Bad Smell - No one knoe=ws what is happening, it's as if he never existed. (Paying the invisible man £350k a week)

And now it looks like the Clueless Owners are going to award Farteta's Failures with a 2 year extension on his contract AND an increase in salary.

I mean FFS! :banghead: :cussing:

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:49 pm
What is very noticeable:

Ramsey has started to make errors (as in more than one or two per game) Before he looked solid and safe and was also commanding the defence, urging the back-line on and what to do.

Saka has become in-effective; not from a lack of trying or effort, but opposition have seen how he can damage them so they are doubling or even tripling up on him, but Arteta hasn't taken this into account tactically and seems to be expecting him to beat 2 - 3 defenders and either score or put the ball into the danger areas, he just cannot do it - he needs support.

Laca has become isolated and so cannot hold & share the ball

Mid-field (yeah! Right - what midfield) is a Mess, with the opposition waltzing through us at will.

We haven't played anywhere near as many games as those in European competition/s and yet we looked Exhausted an at a loss of what to do - as in No Plan B or C - especially when the opposition park the bus to hit us on the break.

There is a distinct lack of "Spirit'" in the whole squad - as if someone has died and they are all mourning or something... Weird.

We were playing really well till Clive was selected again - and then Bingo! Red card against $hitty and we are Awful again. Had we won that game which was on the cards - It would have boosted our confidence, but of course all that effort etc went un-rewarded because of CliveElCUNTO - Who will walk straight back into the team because our idiot manager loves him.

I think farteta is asking Too Much of the youngsters - We do not have the kind of experienced players needed to lead them, Laca is trying his best but again is isolated and not the player he was.

And of course the Auba situation is hanging around like a Bad Smell - No one knoe=ws what is happening, it's as if he never existed. (Paying the invisible man £350k a week)

And now it looks like the Clueless Owners are going to award Farteta's Failures with a 2 year extension on his contract AND an increase in salary.

I mean FFS! :banghead: :cussing:
Remind you of anyone?

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GoonerMuzz wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:40 pm
OneBardGooner wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:49 pm
What is very noticeable:

Ramsey has started to make errors (as in more than one or two per game) Before he looked solid and safe and was also commanding the defence, urging the back-line on and what to do.

Saka has become in-effective; not from a lack of trying or effort, but opposition have seen how he can damage them so they are doubling or even tripling up on him, but Arteta hasn't taken this into account tactically and seems to be expecting him to beat 2 - 3 defenders and either score or put the ball into the danger areas, he just cannot do it - he needs support.

Laca has become isolated and so cannot hold & share the ball

Mid-field (yeah! Right - what midfield) is a Mess, with the opposition waltzing through us at will.

We haven't played anywhere near as many games as those in European competition/s and yet we looked Exhausted an at a loss of what to do - as in No Plan B or C - especially when the opposition park the bus to hit us on the break.

There is a distinct lack of "Spirit'" in the whole squad - as if someone has died and they are all mourning or something... Weird.

We were playing really well till Clive was selected again - and then Bingo! Red card against $hitty and we are Awful again. Had we won that game which was on the cards - It would have boosted our confidence, but of course all that effort etc went un-rewarded because of CliveElCUNTO - Who will walk straight back into the team because our idiot manager loves him.

I think farteta is asking Too Much of the youngsters - We do not have the kind of experienced players needed to lead them, Laca is trying his best but again is isolated and not the player he was.

And of course the Auba situation is hanging around like a Bad Smell - No one knoe=ws what is happening, it's as if he never existed. (Paying the invisible man £350k a week)

And now it looks like the Clueless Owners are going to award Farteta's Failures with a 2 year extension on his contract AND an increase in salary.

I mean FFS! :banghead: :cussing:
Remind you of anyone?
Yes mate, I was thinking that as I typed it.

What I also realised; I'm certain with most others on here is that Wiggy & Son run their Franchises as a business first before any consideration of Sporting success ie: Trophies and so no one should be surprised by this. They may give him money to spend, but know full well with the TV money etc etc they will re-coup it AND put many fans into a false sense of hope. They have been in charge of the club now since 2011 (2018 is when they got total ownership from Usmanov et al) that's 11 years and we have been in a coma since that day, and 99% of the fans are still snoozing & dreaming/imagining things have changed.




:suicide:

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Just like the Forest game a bad first 11. ESR and Odegaard crowd each other get forward too often and it leaves our distribution from midfield really poor. Lokonga himself was woeful yesterday, fucking Saka has his arms up calling for it but Lokonga takes 3-4 extra touches bringing the ball forward. Ball speed is so important coming out from the back. We actually missed Xhaka. He is such a better footballer than Lokonga, say what you what about Xhaka, he doesn't dither on the ball, he moves it quickly and has a fairly good passing range.

I cant stress it enough, Xhaka and Partey pairing in midfield is essential. The fact Xhaka is essential is a problem in itself. We categorically need a midfielder. Stop chasing this forward from Fiorintina. We can cope better with Lacazette as the striker more so than we can Lokonga/Elneny or ESR /Odegaard supposedly dropping into a deeper role.

Ive got the Wenger vibes all over again, packing the midfield with attacking midfielders thinking it offers more of an attacking threat - it doesn't. they just just get in each others way & it cripples the distribution from midfield. Thats why we played in first gear all game

Second time Arteta has done this (played ESR or Odegaard in a deeper role - you dont which one is supposed to be deep because they are both plying number 10), other time was Forrest away where we failed to score too. Sure Arteta probably has no options and he is trying to make do with a paper thin squad. But for fuck sake how can a midfielder not be signed this window. Forget Vlahovic, He isnt coming and isnt the main priority. If the window closes without signing a midfielder then WTF, these are the moments that need to be held against Arteta.

Dont sabotage yourself Arteta.

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Watched the game on replay and it was a hard watch. Much has been said already about Ramsdale, Lacazette's positioning and Saka. IMO saka needs to be switched back to the left, the amount of time he beats his player on the outside and struggles to put a decent ball in using his right foot must frustrate him. Put him back on the left for a while and play to his strength, as he's undoubtedly our most talented attacking player.
Lacazette starts from too deep, and struggles to get in the middle of the box. We had kids on the bench why not throw one of them on when we need a goal?
Last two games we've come unstuck when the other team have big defenders, lacazette doesn't provide the ariel threat of Aubameyang, so we play differently ball ends up going out wide, we cross it in and gets blocked. With Aubameyang in the team we play through the middle, then work it out wide, makes a huge difference.
After going out both cups, a draw against Burnley really isn't a surprise result, in fact it's an improvement on last season. Going back to '92 after early cup exits we struggled for a couple of games, then spanked Sheffield Wednesday 7-1, and won 10 of the last 13 games, playing the best football under Graham. It'll be nice if we could repeat that.

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Nos89 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:48 am
Watched the game on replay and it was a hard watch. Much has been said already about Ramsdale, Lacazette's positioning and Saka. IMO saka needs to be switched back to the left, the amount of time he beats his player on the outside and struggles to put a decent ball in using his right foot must frustrate him. Put him back on the left for a while and play to his strength, as he's undoubtedly our most talented attacking player.
Lacazette starts from too deep, and struggles to get in the middle of the box. We had kids on the bench why not throw one of them on when we need a goal?
Last two games we've come unstuck when the other team have big defenders, lacazette doesn't provide the ariel threat of Aubameyang, so we play differently ball ends up going out wide, we cross it in and gets blocked. With Aubameyang in the team we play through the middle, then work it out wide, makes a huge difference.
After going out both cups, a draw against Burnley really isn't a surprise result, in fact it's an improvement on last season. Going back to '92 after early cup exits we struggled for a couple of games, then spanked Sheffield Wednesday 7-1, and won 10 of the last 13 games, playing the best football under Graham. It'll be nice if we could repeat that.

Martinelli can play down the middle, ESR on the right , Saka on the left. Its not working with Lacazette. Never did carry his goal scoring rate from Lyon to us. Truth be told, Giroud was always a better player. He is leaving at the end of the year anyway. We dont owe him anything.

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:20 am
Just like the Forest game a bad first 11. ESR and Odegaard crowd each other get forward too often and it leaves our distribution from midfield really poor. Lokonga himself was woeful yesterday, fucking Saka has his arms up calling for it but Lokonga takes 3-4 extra touches bringing the ball forward. Ball speed is so important coming out from the back. We actually missed Xhaka. He is such a better footballer than Lokonga, say what you what about Xhaka, he doesn't dither on the ball, he moves it quickly and has a fairly good passing range.

I cant stress it enough, Xhaka and Partey pairing in midfield is essential. The fact Xhaka is essential is a problem in itself. We categorically need a midfielder. Stop chasing this forward from Fiorintina. We can cope better with Lacazette as the striker more so than we can Lokonga/Elneny or ESR /Odegaard supposedly dropping into a deeper role.

Ive got the Wenger vibes all over again, packing the midfield with attacking midfielders thinking it offers more of an attacking threat - it doesn't. they just just get in each others way & it cripples the distribution from midfield. Thats why we played in first gear all game

Second time Arteta has done this (played ESR or Odegaard in a deeper role - you dont which one is supposed to be deep because they are both plying number 10), other time was Forrest away where we failed to score too. Sure Arteta probably has no options and he is trying to make do with a paper thin squad. But for fuck sake how can a midfielder not be signed this window. Forget Vlahovic, He isnt coming and isnt the main priority. If the window closes without signing a midfielder then WTF, these are the moments that need to be held against Arteta.

Dont sabotage yourself Arteta.
WTAF are you talking about? :lol: Clive is complete garbage. We are a better team with ten men than we are with an eleven that includes the brain dead idiot ffs. His "passing range" is a myth, its him delivering one great pass every 4 or 5 games whilst totally ignoring the nine or ten times per game he pisses the ball away whilst under no pressure. Have you actually watched him? His dithering on the ball is the main reason he gives away so many stupid self inflicted free kicks. His dithering is why so many of our fast attacks break down at his feet. The clown is a liability and we are a noticeably better team without him. Then you add in his rank stupidity giving away stupid free kicks and pennos.

As for him and Partey being "essential". Jesus wept. Partey is a mixed bag that has good days and terrible days and looks at his worst when lined up alongside - Yep you guessed it - Clive.

I don't know mate, you post a lot on here but some of the basics are passing you by. We have not got a top striker playing. We are not scoring enough goals. Laca is not a goal scorer and Martinelli is totally unproven as a goal scorer in a central striker role. If the novice manager hadn't fucked up loaning out players at the same time as the ACN then we should have had enough to cover us temporarily in midfield.

Adding a top striker is far more a priority in this team than adding more midfielders.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:10 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:20 am
Just like the Forest game a bad first 11. ESR and Odegaard crowd each other get forward too often and it leaves our distribution from midfield really poor. Lokonga himself was woeful yesterday, fucking Saka has his arms up calling for it but Lokonga takes 3-4 extra touches bringing the ball forward. Ball speed is so important coming out from the back. We actually missed Xhaka. He is such a better footballer than Lokonga, say what you what about Xhaka, he doesn't dither on the ball, he moves it quickly and has a fairly good passing range.

I cant stress it enough, Xhaka and Partey pairing in midfield is essential. The fact Xhaka is essential is a problem in itself. We categorically need a midfielder. Stop chasing this forward from Fiorintina. We can cope better with Lacazette as the striker more so than we can Lokonga/Elneny or ESR /Odegaard supposedly dropping into a deeper role.

Ive got the Wenger vibes all over again, packing the midfield with attacking midfielders thinking it offers more of an attacking threat - it doesn't. they just just get in each others way & it cripples the distribution from midfield. Thats why we played in first gear all game

Second time Arteta has done this (played ESR or Odegaard in a deeper role - you dont which one is supposed to be deep because they are both plying number 10), other time was Forrest away where we failed to score too. Sure Arteta probably has no options and he is trying to make do with a paper thin squad. But for fuck sake how can a midfielder not be signed this window. Forget Vlahovic, He isnt coming and isnt the main priority. If the window closes without signing a midfielder then WTF, these are the moments that need to be held against Arteta.

Dont sabotage yourself Arteta.
WTAF are you talking about? :lol: Clive is complete garbage. We are a better team with ten men than we are with an eleven that includes the brain dead idiot ffs. His "passing range" is a myth, its him delivering one great pass every 4 or 5 games whilst totally ignoring the nine or ten times per game he pisses the ball away whilst under no pressure. Have you actually watched him? His dithering on the ball is the main reason he gives away so many stupid self inflicted free kicks. His dithering is why so many of our fast attacks break down at his feet. The clown is a liability and we are a noticeably better team without him. Then you add in his rank stupidity giving away stupid free kicks and pennos.

As for him and Partey being "essential". Jesus wept. Partey is a mixed bag that has good days and terrible days and looks at his worst when lined up alongside - Yep you guessed it - Clive.

I don't know mate, you post a lot on here but some of the basics are passing you by. We have not got a top striker playing. We are not scoring enough goals. Laca is not a goal scorer and Martinelli is totally unproven as a goal scorer in a central striker role. If the novice manager hadn't fucked up loaning out players at the same time as the ACN then we should have had enough to cover us temporarily in midfield.

Adding a top striker is far more a priority in this team than adding more midfielders.
your wrong. The breakdown is in midfield & as far as the players in the squad go, only Partey & Xhaka can even begin to lay a foundation in midfield.

results will be shit until they can play together again or until someone is brought in in January.

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:46 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:10 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:20 am
Just like the Forest game a bad first 11. ESR and Odegaard crowd each other get forward too often and it leaves our distribution from midfield really poor. Lokonga himself was woeful yesterday, fucking Saka has his arms up calling for it but Lokonga takes 3-4 extra touches bringing the ball forward. Ball speed is so important coming out from the back. We actually missed Xhaka. He is such a better footballer than Lokonga, say what you what about Xhaka, he doesn't dither on the ball, he moves it quickly and has a fairly good passing range.

I cant stress it enough, Xhaka and Partey pairing in midfield is essential. The fact Xhaka is essential is a problem in itself. We categorically need a midfielder. Stop chasing this forward from Fiorintina. We can cope better with Lacazette as the striker more so than we can Lokonga/Elneny or ESR /Odegaard supposedly dropping into a deeper role.

Ive got the Wenger vibes all over again, packing the midfield with attacking midfielders thinking it offers more of an attacking threat - it doesn't. they just just get in each others way & it cripples the distribution from midfield. Thats why we played in first gear all game

Second time Arteta has done this (played ESR or Odegaard in a deeper role - you dont which one is supposed to be deep because they are both plying number 10), other time was Forrest away where we failed to score too. Sure Arteta probably has no options and he is trying to make do with a paper thin squad. But for fuck sake how can a midfielder not be signed this window. Forget Vlahovic, He isnt coming and isnt the main priority. If the window closes without signing a midfielder then WTF, these are the moments that need to be held against Arteta.

Dont sabotage yourself Arteta.
WTAF are you talking about? :lol: Clive is complete garbage. We are a better team with ten men than we are with an eleven that includes the brain dead idiot ffs. His "passing range" is a myth, its him delivering one great pass every 4 or 5 games whilst totally ignoring the nine or ten times per game he pisses the ball away whilst under no pressure. Have you actually watched him? His dithering on the ball is the main reason he gives away so many stupid self inflicted free kicks. His dithering is why so many of our fast attacks break down at his feet. The clown is a liability and we are a noticeably better team without him. Then you add in his rank stupidity giving away stupid free kicks and pennos.

As for him and Partey being "essential". Jesus wept. Partey is a mixed bag that has good days and terrible days and looks at his worst when lined up alongside - Yep you guessed it - Clive.

I don't know mate, you post a lot on here but some of the basics are passing you by. We have not got a top striker playing. We are not scoring enough goals. Laca is not a goal scorer and Martinelli is totally unproven as a goal scorer in a central striker role. If the novice manager hadn't fucked up loaning out players at the same time as the ACN then we should have had enough to cover us temporarily in midfield.

Adding a top striker is far more a priority in this team than adding more midfielders.
your wrong. The breakdown is in midfield & as far as the players in the squad go, only Partey & Xhaka can even begin to lay a foundation in midfield.

results will be shit until they can play together again or until someone is brought in in January.
It's all about opinions but we'll never agree on Clive mate. Partey has the makings of a decent midfielder but he looks terrible and appears nervy when he plays with Clive.

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:46 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:10 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:20 am
Just like the Forest game a bad first 11. ESR and Odegaard crowd each other get forward too often and it leaves our distribution from midfield really poor. Lokonga himself was woeful yesterday, fucking Saka has his arms up calling for it but Lokonga takes 3-4 extra touches bringing the ball forward. Ball speed is so important coming out from the back. We actually missed Xhaka. He is such a better footballer than Lokonga, say what you what about Xhaka, he doesn't dither on the ball, he moves it quickly and has a fairly good passing range.

I cant stress it enough, Xhaka and Partey pairing in midfield is essential. The fact Xhaka is essential is a problem in itself. We categorically need a midfielder. Stop chasing this forward from Fiorintina. We can cope better with Lacazette as the striker more so than we can Lokonga/Elneny or ESR /Odegaard supposedly dropping into a deeper role.

Ive got the Wenger vibes all over again, packing the midfield with attacking midfielders thinking it offers more of an attacking threat - it doesn't. they just just get in each others way & it cripples the distribution from midfield. Thats why we played in first gear all game

Second time Arteta has done this (played ESR or Odegaard in a deeper role - you dont which one is supposed to be deep because they are both plying number 10), other time was Forrest away where we failed to score too. Sure Arteta probably has no options and he is trying to make do with a paper thin squad. But for fuck sake how can a midfielder not be signed this window. Forget Vlahovic, He isnt coming and isnt the main priority. If the window closes without signing a midfielder then WTF, these are the moments that need to be held against Arteta.

Dont sabotage yourself Arteta.
WTAF are you talking about? :lol: Clive is complete garbage. We are a better team with ten men than we are with an eleven that includes the brain dead idiot ffs. His "passing range" is a myth, its him delivering one great pass every 4 or 5 games whilst totally ignoring the nine or ten times per game he pisses the ball away whilst under no pressure. Have you actually watched him? His dithering on the ball is the main reason he gives away so many stupid self inflicted free kicks. His dithering is why so many of our fast attacks break down at his feet. The clown is a liability and we are a noticeably better team without him. Then you add in his rank stupidity giving away stupid free kicks and pennos.

As for him and Partey being "essential". Jesus wept. Partey is a mixed bag that has good days and terrible days and looks at his worst when lined up alongside - Yep you guessed it - Clive.

I don't know mate, you post a lot on here but some of the basics are passing you by. We have not got a top striker playing. We are not scoring enough goals. Laca is not a goal scorer and Martinelli is totally unproven as a goal scorer in a central striker role. If the novice manager hadn't fucked up loaning out players at the same time as the ACN then we should have had enough to cover us temporarily in midfield.

Adding a top striker is far more a priority in this team than adding more midfielders.
your wrong. The breakdown is in midfield & as far as the players in the squad go, only Partey & Xhaka can even begin to lay a foundation in midfield.

results will be shit until they can play together again or until someone is brought in in January.
Can you explain our good run of games when xhaxa was out?

When he came back things went tits up again

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:45 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:46 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:10 am
wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:20 am
Just like the Forest game a bad first 11. ESR and Odegaard crowd each other get forward too often and it leaves our distribution from midfield really poor. Lokonga himself was woeful yesterday, fucking Saka has his arms up calling for it but Lokonga takes 3-4 extra touches bringing the ball forward. Ball speed is so important coming out from the back. We actually missed Xhaka. He is such a better footballer than Lokonga, say what you what about Xhaka, he doesn't dither on the ball, he moves it quickly and has a fairly good passing range.

I cant stress it enough, Xhaka and Partey pairing in midfield is essential. The fact Xhaka is essential is a problem in itself. We categorically need a midfielder. Stop chasing this forward from Fiorintina. We can cope better with Lacazette as the striker more so than we can Lokonga/Elneny or ESR /Odegaard supposedly dropping into a deeper role.

Ive got the Wenger vibes all over again, packing the midfield with attacking midfielders thinking it offers more of an attacking threat - it doesn't. they just just get in each others way & it cripples the distribution from midfield. Thats why we played in first gear all game

Second time Arteta has done this (played ESR or Odegaard in a deeper role - you dont which one is supposed to be deep because they are both plying number 10), other time was Forrest away where we failed to score too. Sure Arteta probably has no options and he is trying to make do with a paper thin squad. But for fuck sake how can a midfielder not be signed this window. Forget Vlahovic, He isnt coming and isnt the main priority. If the window closes without signing a midfielder then WTF, these are the moments that need to be held against Arteta.

Dont sabotage yourself Arteta.
WTAF are you talking about? :lol: Clive is complete garbage. We are a better team with ten men than we are with an eleven that includes the brain dead idiot ffs. His "passing range" is a myth, its him delivering one great pass every 4 or 5 games whilst totally ignoring the nine or ten times per game he pisses the ball away whilst under no pressure. Have you actually watched him? His dithering on the ball is the main reason he gives away so many stupid self inflicted free kicks. His dithering is why so many of our fast attacks break down at his feet. The clown is a liability and we are a noticeably better team without him. Then you add in his rank stupidity giving away stupid free kicks and pennos.

As for him and Partey being "essential". Jesus wept. Partey is a mixed bag that has good days and terrible days and looks at his worst when lined up alongside - Yep you guessed it - Clive.

I don't know mate, you post a lot on here but some of the basics are passing you by. We have not got a top striker playing. We are not scoring enough goals. Laca is not a goal scorer and Martinelli is totally unproven as a goal scorer in a central striker role. If the novice manager hadn't fucked up loaning out players at the same time as the ACN then we should have had enough to cover us temporarily in midfield.

Adding a top striker is far more a priority in this team than adding more midfielders.
your wrong. The breakdown is in midfield & as far as the players in the squad go, only Partey & Xhaka can even begin to lay a foundation in midfield.

results will be shit until they can play together again or until someone is brought in in January.
Can you explain our good run of games when xhaxa was out?

When he came back things went tits up again
FFS can we stop the Xhaka debate....hes a fucking liability...hes not on the pitch enough ...hes either getting into unprovoked aguments, grabbing throats...etc.... ....making reckless tackles...giving away penaltys....or getting sent off.....he has no pace and will always get caught out....no footballing brain...besides that he cant tackle....which is a bit of a problem if you are a defensive midfielder.....seen 11 year olds who are taught how to tackle that are better than him

I wil never go to a game whilst he plays...the thought of one penny of my money going to that useless footballer with an incredible attitude would seriously make me sick

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we all agree xhaka is shit apart from leftie! ;) however is Lokonga shitter is the question i think wilson is raising

i think hes out of his depth but could be a decent player, he was Anderlecht captain which is no great shakes but must say something about him at such a young age...oh wait isn't xhaka Swiss captain?

I think our need for striker and CM are equally as pressing. One or other will help a bit, but without both we are fooked. Is this Kessie fella at Ac Milan any good, scum been linked with him for ages and his running down his contract, so surely we shouldn't be turning our nose up at him is hes good enough for scum?

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:48 am
Nos89 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:48 am
Watched the game on replay and it was a hard watch. Much has been said already about Ramsdale, Lacazette's positioning and Saka. IMO saka needs to be switched back to the left, the amount of time he beats his player on the outside and struggles to put a decent ball in using his right foot must frustrate him. Put him back on the left for a while and play to his strength, as he's undoubtedly our most talented attacking player.
Lacazette starts from too deep, and struggles to get in the middle of the box. We had kids on the bench why not throw one of them on when we need a goal?
Last two games we've come unstuck when the other team have big defenders, lacazette doesn't provide the ariel threat of Aubameyang, so we play differently ball ends up going out wide, we cross it in and gets blocked. With Aubameyang in the team we play through the middle, then work it out wide, makes a huge difference.
After going out both cups, a draw against Burnley really isn't a surprise result, in fact it's an improvement on last season. Going back to '92 after early cup exits we struggled for a couple of games, then spanked Sheffield Wednesday 7-1, and won 10 of the last 13 games, playing the best football under Graham. It'll be nice if we could repeat that.

Martinelli can play down the middle, ESR on the right , Saka on the left. Its not working with Lacazette. Never did carry his goal scoring rate from Lyon to us. Truth be told, Giroud was always a better player. He is leaving at the end of the year anyway. We dont owe him anything.
Yep that's my ideal front three. Fed up of watching left footers on the right and vice versa. About time we went old school and played players on their strong side. Saka will be virtually unplayable on the left.

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