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The bar is so low for Havertz though. Has he improved since he joined? Yes, but only in so much as drinking piss is probably an improvement over eating shit.
I've said before you can see there is a player in there somewhere but whether we get to actually see more than just glimpses of that player is anyone's guess.
At the moment almost any consistently average player would still be an improvement on him tbh.
The bar is so low for Havertz though. Has he improved since he joined? Yes, but only in so much as drinking piss is probably an improvement over eating shit.
I've said before you can see there is a player in there somewhere but whether we get to actually see more than just glimpses of that player is anyone's guess.
At the moment almost any consistently average player would still be an improvement on him tbh.
He's not the answer. Nor Jesus nor is the Feather.
I'm not entirely sure who the answer is.
If the price was right I'd take a punt on Toney, but I have a neeegliing doubt that it isn't the right option. Don't know why but something bugs me.
If Neto could transform into a striker a la Henry I think he would be mustard.
We wasted £65Million on Klaive the useless streak of piss when we could have signed Palmer from Cheaty for £42.5Million...
Another goal last night for Havertz. That’s 4 in the last 4 and 9 for the season. His interplay was excellent. If we had been playing him up top all season instead of in midfield he would be quite high up the goalscoring table for the premier league probably. He’s having a big impact on the side at the moment
He has improved slightly since I posted that ... as did many others on here... But he is still awkward in his first touch and link play and will often slow an attack down, he is quite gutsy considering he's built like a cocktail stick I'll give him that... He has yet to prove he can be an important part of the team as others have said the bar is 'Low'.
He has improved slightly since I posted that ... as did many others on here... But he is still awkward in his first touch and link play and will often slow an attack down, he is quite gutsy considering he's built like a cocktail stick I'll give him that... He has yet to prove he can be an important part of the team as others have said the bar is 'Low'.
I hope he does well. The stats don't lie over the past few games so I hope he really kicks on. His first touch to bring down the ball for Benny's goal was nice.
He has improved slightly since I posted that ... as did many others on here... But he is still awkward in his first touch and link play and will often slow an attack down, he is quite gutsy considering he's built like a cocktail stick I'll give him that... He has yet to prove he can be an important part of the team as others have said the bar is 'Low'.
I hope he does well. The stats don't lie over the past few games so I hope he really kicks on. His first touch to bring down the ball for Benny's goal was nice.
He has improved slightly since I posted that ... as did many others on here... But he is still awkward in his first touch and link play and will often slow an attack down, he is quite gutsy considering he's built like a cocktail stick I'll give him that... He has yet to prove he can be an important part of the team as others have said the bar is 'Low'.
I hope he does well. The stats don't lie over the past few games so I hope he really kicks on. His first touch to bring down the ball for Benny's goal was nice.
His dive can fuck right off though.
yes looked like he was going to get sent off...
That was all the Brentford manager was going on about - there have literally been hundreds of worse cases of playing for a foul that get laughed off and worse cases of serious fouls with intent to hurt that should be sending offs that haven’t been yet the press pander to that Arsenal won by default agenda fuck em all
He has improved slightly since I posted that ... as did many others on here... But he is still awkward in his first touch and link play and will often slow an attack down, he is quite gutsy considering he's built like a cocktail stick I'll give him that... He has yet to prove he can be an important part of the team as others have said the bar is 'Low'.
I hope he does well. The stats don't lie over the past few games so I hope he really kicks on. His first touch to bring down the ball for Benny's goal was nice.
His dive can fuck right off though.
yes looked like he was going to get sent off...
That was all the Brentford manager was going on about - there have literally been hundreds of worse cases of playing for a foul that get laughed off and worse cases of serious fouls with intent to hurt that should be sending offs that haven’t been yet the press pander to that Arsenal won by default agenda fuck em all
Also the Yellow Card Havertz received for the so-called elbow on the Brentford player should never have been given; something the mediaCunts are omitting to mention. Both players went up to head the ball with BOTH players using their arms as leverage to gain height, which is a Natural Part of The Movement When Jumping, it just so happens that Havertz jumped higher and so his arm was above the Brentford players arm & shoulder and so caught him in the neck which of course the Brentford player made a meal off by rolling around holding his face (even though Havertz arm hit his neck Not his face)...And the Brentford manager failed to mention that bit on how his big tough defender acted like a fucking WussCuntSnowflake. Selective Reporting against us yet again. Ceeeeuunnttsss.
He has improved slightly since I posted that ... as did many others on here... But he is still awkward in his first touch and link play and will often slow an attack down, he is quite gutsy considering he's built like a cocktail stick I'll give him that... He has yet to prove he can be an important part of the team as others have said the bar is 'Low'.
I hope he does well. The stats don't lie over the past few games so I hope he really kicks on. His first touch to bring down the ball for Benny's goal was nice.
His dive can fuck right off though.
yes looked like he was going to get sent off...
That was all the Brentford manager was going on about - there have literally been hundreds of worse cases of playing for a foul that get laughed off and worse cases of serious fouls with intent to hurt that should be sending offs that haven’t been yet the press pander to that Arsenal won by default agenda fuck em all
Also the Yellow Card Havertz received for the so-called elbow on the Brentford player should never have been given; something the mediaCunts are omitting to mention. Both players went up to head the ball with BOTH players using their arms as leverage to gain height, which is a Natural Part of The Movement When Jumping, it just so happens that Havertz jumped higher and so his arm was above the Brentford players arm & shoulder and so caught him in the neck which of course the Brentford player made a meal off by rolling around holding his face (even though Havertz arm hit his neck Not his face)...And the Brentford manager failed to mention that bit on how his big tough defender acted like a fucking WussCuntSnowflake. Selective Reporting against us yet again. Ceeeeuunnttsss.
Honest question, I forget the rules, does there need to be intent for a yellow in terms of elbowing for a header? Or is it just deemed semi-violent conduct/loss of control of the body = yellow whether it was intentional or not?
EDIT: Actually I probably know the answer; if there was intent it would be a red.
I hope he does well. The stats don't lie over the past few games so I hope he really kicks on. His first touch to bring down the ball for Benny's goal was nice.
His dive can fuck right off though.
yes looked like he was going to get sent off...
That was all the Brentford manager was going on about - there have literally been hundreds of worse cases of playing for a foul that get laughed off and worse cases of serious fouls with intent to hurt that should be sending offs that haven’t been yet the press pander to that Arsenal won by default agenda fuck em all
Also the Yellow Card Havertz received for the so-called elbow on the Brentford player should never have been given; something the mediaCunts are omitting to mention. Both players went up to head the ball with BOTH players using their arms as leverage to gain height, which is a Natural Part of The Movement When Jumping, it just so happens that Havertz jumped higher and so his arm was above the Brentford players arm & shoulder and so caught him in the neck which of course the Brentford player made a meal off by rolling around holding his face (even though Havertz arm hit his neck Not his face)...And the Brentford manager failed to mention that bit on how his big tough defender acted like a fucking WussCuntSnowflake. Selective Reporting against us yet again. Ceeeeuunnttsss.
Honest question, I forget the rules, does there need to be intent for a yellow in terms of elbowing for a header? Or is it just deemed semi-violent conduct/loss of control of the body = yellow whether it was intentional or not?
EDIT: Actually I probably know the answer; if there was intent it would be a red.
Also as we all know it will depend on the Ref AND whoever is running VAR, seeing as there is No Consistency... In the same way as that Push on Gabriel when the Fat ToonCunts stole the game and Both the Ref and VAR waved it away. And in 2 separate games the following week-end the exact same kind of 'Push' was deemed worthy of a Free-kick etc
He's way better than some of the shite we've signed in the past 10-15 years. The Chavs just about drained every drop of confidence out of the lad as they have done with numerous players - Caicedo, Mudryk, Sterling, Enzo - to name a small handful. There's dozens more where they came from and if they want to keep doing that before letting us rebuild them, long may it continue! Serves them right for years of giving us utter c.unts like Cech, Gallas and David Luiz!
He isn't anywhere near as bad as has been made out on here. Sure, he took a while to settle but some players have been given a much longer leash than he has. Vieira by comparison has had one whole additional year at the club and been god awful in comparison and not turned up anywhere near as much as Havertz has. Tomiyasu likewise. I'd argue Zinchenko has done us more damage and Jesus has been very indifferent......yet they all seem to escape relatively freely compared to Havertz.
The bloke who apparently doesn't do big games but scored a winner in the Champions League final, winner in the FIFA World Club Final, the youngest player ever to make 50 Bundesliga appearances, second youngest to score 25 goals, and averages better than 1 in 3 for Germany including World Cups and Euros.
I'll admit, he was starting to worry me after the home game against Sheffield United where we looked lost despite us winning easily, but he has never been as bad as some make out on here......certainly not Xhaka proportions! He's turning out to be ok really isn't he? Go on.....admit it now!
Ceeeeuunnttsss.
And in 2 separate games the following week-end the exact same kind of 'Push' was deemed worthy of a Free-kick etc
