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goonertux wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:13 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:49 am
Too many grief porn merchants knocking about wanting to hunker down in their attics until a vaccine is discovered.

There’s also way too many fucking excuses and can’t do attitudes prevailing and shouting the loudest. Every single business or premises that can reopen while maintaining social distancing should do so immediately. Nothing is going to change in 3 weeks or 3 months so what are they waiting for? They should all be open today.

We will be lucky if there’s a vaccine or anti viral this time next year so it’s time to accept our new reality and get on with things as safely as we possibly can.
And that’s the problem with schools. Younger children cannot be relied upon to keep their distances. The so-called specialist even denying that young ones might keep touching each other. She can’t have been in a reception or year 1 class obviously. It needs to be properly thought out, rather than rushing back too soon.
What astonishes me is how many people in this country (and the US) seem to be content with committing suicide on a national basis, rather than trying to get behind an effort to minimise deaths. We've seen successful containment in other countries and yet our government just seem hell-bent on opening the economy screw the consequences.

If we get this wrong and deaths do not come down to manageable levels, by the time we get to the autumn or winter there will be even more casualties. All we have to do is look at history to see how an out of control virus comes back in waves. The Spanish Flu is the perfect example.

The economy won't function properly until the population have the confidence to go out and not get infected.

Before a vaccine or antivirals that are found, the only way that will happen if we finally get our test, track and trace act together. We don't seem to be anywhere near that stage yet. The big difference between now and 100 years ago, is technology has evolved exponentially. At least that gives some hope that we will get a vaccine in record time.

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Also plenty of time for other birds and bees recreational activities

Another bunch of baby boomers for the next few generations to hang the blame for their life's woes on.

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augie wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:41 am
goonertux wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 10:27 am
At last! Two voices of reason.



I can just see sid now pissing himself laughing at being called a voice of reason :lol: :lol:
:shock: What are you insinuating Augie :box: :wink: :lol:

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A11M11 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 2:01 pm
Also plenty of time for other birds and bees recreational activities

Another bunch of baby boomers for the next few generations to hang the blame for their life's woes on.
Blame the people they learn off rather than them

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rodders999 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:49 am
Too many grief porn merchants knocking about wanting to hunker down in their attics until a vaccine is discovered.

There’s also way too many fucking excuses and can’t do attitudes prevailing and shouting the loudest. Every single business or premises that can reopen while maintaining social distancing should do so immediately. Nothing is going to change in 3 weeks or 3 months so what are they waiting for? They should all be open today.

We will be lucky if there’s a vaccine or anti viral this time next year so it’s time to accept our new reality and get on with things as safely as we possibly can.



Pro footballers are a case in point - these cnuts have supposedly been training at home with club issued training programmes, are back in team training since last week, and now the fat Geordie still says that they wont be fit enough to play for another 6 weeks :roll:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... nd-of-june

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goonertux wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 6:19 am
Jock Gooner wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 6:29 pm
So the mickeys are threatening not to send their kids back to school in June - ffs if ever a city needed education :roll:

Remember you don't have to go back to work if you don't feel safe......you stay at home and look after yourself.

Just as long as the rest of us mugs who have worked through the lockdown are there for your benefit then that's alright.

We've turned into a nation of absolute fannies.
Maybe if your wife was a teacher, you might feel different? Risk of serious illness/death and you describe them as ‘fannies’! Some people just don’t get it!
My ex-wife is a teacher. I'd drive her back into work myself if primary schools went back. I'd even waiver the injunction I took out against the crazy bitch.

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goonertux wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:13 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:49 am
Too many grief porn merchants knocking about wanting to hunker down in their attics until a vaccine is discovered.

There’s also way too many fucking excuses and can’t do attitudes prevailing and shouting the loudest. Every single business or premises that can reopen while maintaining social distancing should do so immediately. Nothing is going to change in 3 weeks or 3 months so what are they waiting for? They should all be open today.

We will be lucky if there’s a vaccine or anti viral this time next year so it’s time to accept our new reality and get on with things as safely as we possibly can.
And that’s the problem with schools. Younger children cannot be relied upon to keep their distances. The so-called specialist even denying that young ones might keep touching each other. She can’t have been in a reception or year 1 class obviously. It needs to be properly thought out, rather than rushing back too soon.
Agree with that Tux but schools just like everything and everyone else will just have to adapt. My own daughter is due to start school in September and there’s fuck all clarity as to what’s going to happen.

For me schools will have to split classes, some kids go in the morning others in the afternoon or half the class one day and the other half the next. We need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves now, look after the vulnerable and the rest of us need to get out there and continue to try and keep the economy alive by social distancing the absolute shit out of it until a vaccine is found.

I’ve been lucky enough to continue working right throughout this and actually at my place of work too not from home. It’s now time for as many other people as possible to do the same.

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augie wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 3:23 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:49 am
Too many grief porn merchants knocking about wanting to hunker down in their attics until a vaccine is discovered.

There’s also way too many fucking excuses and can’t do attitudes prevailing and shouting the loudest. Every single business or premises that can reopen while maintaining social distancing should do so immediately. Nothing is going to change in 3 weeks or 3 months so what are they waiting for? They should all be open today.

We will be lucky if there’s a vaccine or anti viral this time next year so it’s time to accept our new reality and get on with things as safely as we possibly can.



Pro footballers are a case in point - these cnuts have supposedly been training at home with club issued training programmes, are back in team training since last week, and now the fat Geordie still says that they wont be fit enough to play for another 6 weeks :roll:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... nd-of-june
All the Arsenal players I follow on social media have been firing up videos of rigorous training sessions since lockdown began. Now I know someone could post a 3 minute video giving the impression of doing a massive workout and then shut off the phone and go
back to the couch to knock one out to the BangBabes but I reckon they’ve all being doing good work to maintain fitness levels.

The only guy I haven’t seen working out is Pepe. It wouldn’t surprise me to see him rock up to training once it resumes weighing 20 stone :lol: :lol:

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rodders999 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:49 am
Too many grief porn merchants knocking about wanting to hunker down in their attics until a vaccine is discovered.

There’s also way too many fucking excuses and can’t do attitudes prevailing and shouting the loudest. Every single business or premises that can reopen while maintaining social distancing should do so immediately. Nothing is going to change in 3 weeks or 3 months so what are they waiting for? They should all be open today.

We will be lucky if there’s a vaccine or anti viral this time next year so it’s time to accept our new reality and get on with things as safely as we possibly can.
Could not agree more. Too many pissing around while the tax payer pays their wages. We all know the drill now staying 2m away from people ought to do the trick hiding away in the house is taking it too far. Either work from home or open up with social distancing it's simple. If you can't mange that and adapt then tough that's business. You live and die (for want of a better phrase) through ability to adapt to an ever changing world

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Leyton Gooner wrote: Either work from home or open up with social distancing it's simple.
No it isn't simple. You're relying on people to follow rules with social distancing and unfortunately some people really don't give a f**k (just go to any supermarket to see this).

If you take the example of a pub. You lose trade through less tables and you will most likely have to do table service. It is also inevitable that once people have had a few drinks, all social distancing will disappear.

It would cost more in extra staff and trying to police it with security than most independent pubs can afford.

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augie wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:32 pm

No doubt the world as it currently is is a mess, but it is a mess where people should all pull together to work things out instead of one group sitting back and waiting for everyone else to do what is necessary - if this was a virus that we knew would last for x number of weeks or months then I would understand (maybe) people's reluctance to put themselves out there, but this virus could be around for years so at what stage are they gonna get back to living life ? It is an excuse for some to stay at home on full pay, and especially those working in the public sector :roll:
And yet the bit in red is not true augie. You have to stop reading that comic The Sun. :wink:

There is not one civil or public servant sitting at home on their arse doing nothing. They are either working from home or (like me and my exhausted burnt out team) putting their health and their family's health at risk by travelling into work every day. That's of course not to say there aren't a few teachers that have been doing fuck all but that is a minority of public servants and it is a shit thing to tar every public servant with the same brush tbh.

I will tell you who HAS been sitting at home on their arses doing nothing though. 600 thousand private sector workers - I know that because my team are one of many reassigned to help put those people on COVID pandemic payments. While those 600k people are being paid to stay at home public sector workers in DEASP, Revenue, HSE, Public Health Ireland etc etc have been keeping the country going and in my team's case paying the private sector so we don't have riots on the streets or a huge pandemic death toll.

Did you know DEASP had to close one of its Dublin offices (Swords Intreo) because a number of staff caught the virus by turning up to work to help people? Probably not, because that doesn't suit the government and media agenda to keep the public and private sectors at each others throats.

And here's the best bit. Do you know how they'll thank us for all this work when the coming recession rolls in? Yep they'll cut our pay again.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 6:36 am
augie wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:32 pm

No doubt the world as it currently is is a mess, but it is a mess where people should all pull together to work things out instead of one group sitting back and waiting for everyone else to do what is necessary - if this was a virus that we knew would last for x number of weeks or months then I would understand (maybe) people's reluctance to put themselves out there, but this virus could be around for years so at what stage are they gonna get back to living life ? It is an excuse for some to stay at home on full pay, and especially those working in the public sector :roll:
And yet the bit in red is not true augie. You have to stop reading that comic The Sun. :wink:

There is not one civil or public servant sitting at home on their arse doing nothing. They are either working from home or (like me and my exhausted burnt out team) putting their health and their family's health at risk by travelling into work every day. That's of course not to say there aren't a few teachers that have been doing fuck all but that is a minority of public servants and it is a shit thing to tar every public servant with the same brush tbh.

I will tell you who HAS been sitting at home on their arses doing nothing though. 600 thousand private sector workers - I know that because my team are one of many reassigned to help put those people on COVID pandemic payments. While those 600k people are being paid to stay at home public sector workers in DEASP, Revenue, HSE, Public Health Ireland etc etc have been keeping the country going and in my team's case paying the private sector so we don't have riots on the streets or a huge pandemic death toll.

Did you know DEASP had to close one of its Dublin offices (Swords Intreo) because a number of staff caught the virus by turning up to work to help people? Probably not, because that doesn't suit the government and media agenda to keep the public and private sectors at each others throats.

And here's the best bit. Do you know how they'll thank us for all this work when the coming recession rolls in? Yep they'll cut our pay again.



Ok I will admit that I made a sweeping statement labelling all public sector workers when I meant to focus in on teachers and SOME others - I have 2 kids in secondary school and let me tell you that the interaction and assignments from their teachers is patchy at best. My eldest is in 5th year and is getting grinds from a local teacher that doesn't work in his school, and he has had more work and teaching from that teacher in the past 2 months than he has his own teachers - he has even done 4 or 5 online zoom classes with her class from the school that she teaches in, and I'm sure those students must be wondering wtf is going on that he is involved :lol: :lol:

Re the private sector I will agree with you to some degree but again your statement is too sweeping and all inclusive to be fair - there are a lot of people down here going out of their minds waiting to get back to work (what sane man would want to be trapped with her indoors for weeks on end ? :lol: ). There are of course some who will look at the benefits of not having to work and getting paid a decent wedge regardless, and will be in no hurry to get back, but that is where the government needs to start winding down on those payments as they open up the country again

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Can we stop making sweeping statements and demonising all teachers! Vast majority are either at work teaching/looking after essential workers children or working from home. Like any industry in the current situation, there may well be some who are taking advantage, but most teachers are highly caring, vocational people, otherwise why would they have chosen a career in teaching? It’s certainly not for the money!

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goonertux wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 10:26 am
Can we stop making sweeping statements and demonising all teachers! Vast majority are either at work teaching/looking after essential workers children or working from home. Like any industry in the current situation, there may well be some who are taking advantage, but most teachers are highly caring, vocational people, otherwise why would they have chosen a career in teaching? It’s certainly not for the money!

Let me see :rubchin:

1. Three months holidays

2. Job security unrelated to performance targets

3. Government/Civil Servant Pension

Obviously if I was a cynical person I might be thinking that way, but just as well that I'm not :wink:

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Three months holiday? A lot of it spent marking, planning, and setting up the classrooms.

Job Security unrelated to performance targets? Have you not heard of Ofsted?

And a standard Civil Service Pension?

Not forgetting all the work at home in the evenings and weekends! My wife’s working day is around 7am till around 8pm.

Have a little rethink!

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