THE WENGER THREAD

[augie]

Well Wenger has already backed Theo, reckons his best is yet to come and reckons he will stay for the next 5 years. This kind of mentality just proves the level of complacency and low expectations within the club. If Theo's best is yet to come, why has be been rewarded with 140k a week? Why are we paying a player who by Wenger's own admission, hasnt reached his potential despite 10 seasons at the club, more money than Bayern are paying Robben and Ribery, and get this, only 10k less than Barcelona are paying Neymar!! Talk about mismanagement.

Theo's effectiveness is in his record, 80 odd goals despite 10 seasons at the club, which is about 8 goals a season in all competitions. Its 54 league goals, which is about 5 and half league goals a year, and so far this year he has scored 4 in the league - so he is keeping within expectations. Walcott LITERALLY averages barely 2 more league goals a season than Koscielny.

Now any other manager, tired off the unfulfilled promise, and potential in other players who actually show they are likely to perform (Campbell and Iwobi) would pretty much render Walcott transfer listed. Yet Wenger wants to resist West Ham who want to pay north of 20m for Walcott. Why?? Is it because Wenger genuinely believes in Walcott? Or because he cant bring himself to sell Walcott, and thus justify the years of criticism attributed to Walcott? Thats why Almunia lasted 3 seasons as number 1 - as replacing him is a de-facto admission he was wrong all along, and the critics were right.

Its stubbornness beyond comprehension. He would rather sit on the sidelines and squirm, as he watches the many players not good enough unintentionally destroy the season, rather than admit to himself he has been wrong all along, and that the chorus of criticism was justified all along.

Its cutting if your nose to spite your face. Imagine two people having an argument on whether is safe to eat a pie just out of the oven, one says its far to hot, the other says its fine, the one who says its fine bites into the pie, and burns the taste buds of his tongue, but rather than admit he was wrong, he takes another bite, burning the insides of his mouth - all because he didnt want to admit he was wrong. Well thats Arsene Wenger. He would rather watch Almunia offer up calamity after calamity, rather than admit a mistake, and Wenger will continue to put up with Theo's shit house goal return, just to avoid concession to the critic's.

He really is a miserable son of a bitch, being led by his own massive ego.

Wasn't that the argument made by the club when he was rewarded with his last bumper contract ? It was also backed up by many of the pro wenger and pro wally supporters who clung to this mythical notion that he actually is a quality footballer I never even bother to quote the average goals stats over his 10 years because (a) we also need to acknowledge that he hasn't been a first team player for all of those 10 years and (b) his displays should be enough to back up the point that he really is just a very average football

[xisstential]

Well Wenger has already backed Theo, reckons his best is yet to come and reckons he will stay for the next 5 years. This kind of mentality just proves the level of complacency and low expectations within the club. If Theo's best is yet to come, why has be been rewarded with 140k a week? Why are we paying a player who by Wenger's own admission, hasnt reached his potential despite 10 seasons at the club, more money than Bayern are paying Robben and Ribery, and get this, only 10k less than Barcelona are paying Neymar!! Talk about mismanagement.

Theo's effectiveness is in his record, 80 odd goals despite 10 seasons at the club, which is about 8 goals a season in all competitions. Its 54 league goals, which is about 5 and half league goals a year, and so far this year he has scored 4 in the league - so he is keeping within expectations. Walcott LITERALLY averages barely 2 more league goals a season than Koscielny.

Now any other manager, tired off the unfulfilled promise, and potential in other players who actually show they are likely to perform (Campbell and Iwobi) would pretty much render Walcott transfer listed. tYet Wenger wants to resist West Ham who want to pay north of 20m for Walcott. Why?? Is it because Wenger genuinely believes in Walcott? Or because he can bring himself to sell Walcott, and thus justify the years of criticism attributed to Walcott? Thats why Almunia lasted 3 seasons as number 1 - as replacing him is a de-facto admission he was wrong all along, and the critics were right.

Its stubbornness beyond comprehension. He would rather sit on the sidelines and squirm, as he watches the many players not good enough unintentionally destroy the season, rather than admit to himself he has been wrong all along, and that the chorus of criticism was justified all along.

Its cutting if your nose to spite your face. Imagine two people having an argument on whether is safe to eat a pie just out of the oven, one says its far to hot, the other says its fine, the one who says its fine bites into the pie, and burns the taste buds of his tongue, but rather than admit he was wrong, he takes another bite, burning the insides of his mouth - all because he didnt want to admit he was wrong. Well thats Arsene Wenger. He would rather watch Almunia offer up calamity after calamity, rather than admit a mistake, and Wenger will continue to put up with Theo's shit house goal return, just to avoid concession to the critic's.

He really is a miserable son of a bitch, being led by his own massive ego.

[xisstential]

Well Wenger has already backed Theo, reckons his best is yet to come and reckons he will stay for the next 5 years. This kind of mentality just proves the level of complacency and low expectations within the club. If Theo's best is yet to come, why has be been rewarded with 140k a week? Why are we paying a player who by Wenger's own admission, hasnt reached his potential despite 10 seasons at the club, more money than Bayern are paying Robben and Ribery, and get this, only 10k less than Barcelona are paying Neymar!! Talk about mismanagement.

Theo's effectiveness is in his record, 80 odd goals despite 10 seasons at the club, which is about 8 goals a season in all competitions. Its 54 league goals, which is about 5 and half league goals a year, and so far this year he has scored 4 in the league - so he is keeping within expectations. Walcott LITERALLY averages barely 2 more league goals a season than Koscielny.

Now any other manager, tired off the unfulfilled promise, and potential in other players who actually show they are likely to perform (Campbell and Iwobi) would pretty much render Walcott transfer listed. tYet Wenger wants to resist West Ham who want to pay north of 20m for Walcott. Why?? Is it because Wenger genuinely believes in Walcott? Or because he can bring himself to sell Walcott, and thus justify the years of criticism attributed to Walcott? Thats why Almunia lasted 3 seasons as number 1 - as replacing him is a de-facto admission he was wrong all along, and the critics were right.

Its stubbornness beyond comprehension. He would rather sit on the sidelines and squirm, as he watches the many players not good enough unintentionally destroy the season, rather than admit to himself he has been wrong all along, and that the chorus of criticism was justified all along.

Its cutting if your nose to spite your face. Imagine two people having an argument on whether is safe to eat a pie just out of the oven, one says its far to hot, the other says its fine, the one who says its fine bites into the pie, and burns the taste buds of his tongue, but rather than admit he was wrong, he takes another bite, burning the insides of his mouth - all because he didnt want to admit he was wrong. Well thats Arsene Wenger. He would rather watch Almunia offer up calamity after calamity, rather than admit a mistake, and Wenger will continue to put up with Theo's shit house goal return, just to avoid concession to the critic's.

He really is a miserable son of a bitch, being led by his own massive ego.

I find that staggering, stupefying in fact. I would bite some body's hand off for 8m. Walcott is pretty much done, a busted flush. He cannot even make our starting line up and the entire England team would have to be flattened by a virus before he will get a start, or even a cameo, with them. But hey, he's gonna get better.... and I presume when he does he'll be getting a wage increase??

[MrT]

If anyone needed their daily dose of Wenger induced rage, here you go

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... ers-banner

He told beIN Sport: "I don’t worry too much about all the rest, what people say.

"All the rest is judgments, opinions and that is linked with the beliefs from the last result or the last disappointment or the last happiness.''

[xisstential]

If anyone needed their daily dose of Wenger induced rage, here you go

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... ers-banner

He told beIN Sport: "I don’t worry too much about all the rest, what people say.

"All the rest is judgments, opinions and that is linked with the beliefs from the last result or the last disappointment or the last happiness.''

So pretty much the last decade then you aloof, ignorant, sanctimonious, despotic

I swear this guy is so out of touch it's frightening. I bet inwardly he is absolutely seething that we are so ungrateful after all he's done for us. That's how lost he is.

[g88ner]

If anyone needed their daily dose of Wenger induced rage, here you go

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... ers-banner

He told beIN Sport: "I don’t worry too much about all the rest, what people say.

"All the rest is judgments, opinions and that is linked with the beliefs from the last result or the last disappointment or the last happiness.''

Ah, yes - the criticism is linked to the last result. 10 years of "last results", Arsene!

Also, I find it interesting that on several occasions he says his job is to "do my best" but not once suggests his job is to win trophies. Surely, anyone would "do their best" for £8m a years; that's not what we need. We need a manager who can deliver success; not a specialist in failure like Wenger who seems to make a hash of the league title every year

[Redarmy]

Honestly think protests and the banners will be counter productive to getting Wenger out

knowing his character as we do he will not be chased out of the club, even if he was thinking of leaving he will not go under pressure

he totally dis regards criticism, he thinks he is doing the best anyone can do

He will decide when he goes, in his mind it is Arsene FC, and of course will have the backing of his employer Mr Kronke

[augie]

Honestly think protests and the banners will be counter productive to getting Wenger out

knowing his character as we do he will not be chased out of the club, even if he was thinking of leaving he will not go under pressure

he totally dis regards criticism, he thinks he is doing the best anyone can do

He will decide when he goes, in his mind it is Arsene FC, and of course will have the backing of his employer Mr Kronke

Yeah because no banners and not protesting has worked really well for us in the past

[Redarmy]

Honestly think protests and the banners will be counter productive to getting Wenger out

knowing his character as we do he will not be chased out of the club, even if he was thinking of leaving he will not go under pressure

he totally dis regards criticism, he thinks he is doing the best anyone can do

He will decide when he goes, in his mind it is Arsene FC, and of course will have the backing of his employer Mr Kronke

Yeah because no banners and not protesting has worked really well for us in the past

Yeah he wil still be there, won't do FUCK ALL

[officepest]

Honestly think protests and the banners will be counter productive to getting Wenger out

knowing his character as we do he will not be chased out of the club, even if he was thinking of leaving he will not go under pressure

he totally dis regards criticism, he thinks he is doing the best anyone can do

He will decide when he goes, in his mind it is Arsene FC, and of course will have the backing of his employer Mr Kronke

Yeah because no banners and not protesting has worked really well for us in the past

Indeed. Sit down, shut up and pay your money; Arsene will be gone in no time.

[Redarmy]

Honestly think protests and the banners will be counter productive to getting Wenger out

knowing his character as we do he will not be chased out of the club, even if he was thinking of leaving he will not go under pressure

he totally dis regards criticism, he thinks he is doing the best anyone can do

He will decide when he goes, in his mind it is Arsene FC, and of course will have the backing of his employer Mr Kronke

Yeah because no banners and not protesting has worked really well for us in the past

Yeah he wil still be there, won't do FUCK ALL

would probably take a full match boycott to get the message home, with all the AKBs , corporates and tourists good luck with that one!!

You dont get it mate, you are dealing with Wenger here, an obstinate blinkered deluded stubborn wanker

He will not take it from anyone, look at Pat Rice and Bould fucking mutes since they been on the touchline

[Ikechukwu1]

Gunners legends have slammed such behaviour and Wenger admits some of the criticism coming his way has been unfair.

"I don't think the criticism this season is very welcome, especially when you fight for the championship, especially after the game against Tottenham.

It's funny I swear Lord A-hole keeps going on about that Spuds game? I thought we'd beaten them 11-0 at their place the way he goes on about it...but I just checked and my memory is correct and it was a 2-2 draw. Wow he's actually celebrating 2-2 draws at the Spuds like a 4-0 away win at the Nou Camp.
There was a time when we'd be disappointed by a draw at Shite Lane but now we are having to rejoice about great nights in our recent history such as "that 2-2 draw at Spuds" or my personal fave "that night in Athens" (the one that confirmed the obligatory 5-1 last 16 elimination ).

Lord A-Hole conveniently doesn't mention the ManYoo away game or the Swansea home game. Having claimed criticism of him is based on individual games taken in isolation, he proceeds to demonstrate just how much of a fuckwit he truly is by then taking...you guessed it, one game in isolation! And even then he's demonstrating what a small-time Loser he is, and how low the benchmark is, by using a draw away at a team with far less resources than us, that we've yet to ever beat in the league under their current manager.

That's right chaps, the new benchmark is that you peasants should be ecstatic about drawing 2-2 at Spuds. A ground that even Steve McClaren managed to win at (and he's lost pretty much everywhere he's been).

Fucking pathetic small-time wanker.

[armchair]

Wenger doesnt like fans who have an opinion. He just wants cheerleaders.

[Ikechukwu1]

The longer Wenker remains at Arsenal, the further and further the club's reputation goes down the shitter. If Kroenke cares about brand damage he'd ditch this farce of a "manager" ASAP. Looks as if the Sanchez situation has been reversed and Goetze has snubbed us for Scousers. We are no longer a draw for top players and the ones we do get are desperate to leave (at least Theo wants to stay!)
Look at how top players now speak of the club:

http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/722/la-liga ... %2BSources

[Wilson]

Arteta on 80k a week. Which was last extended July 2015. He has only played 19 times since, mostly of the bench.

Rosicky on 85k a week, last extension in May 2015. He was 33 years old at the time of extension.

When these deals were renegotiated, did Wenger say, your approaching your mid thirties and will rarely feature going forward, and thus your going to have to take a massive pay cut to stay on? Or did Wenger just offer a new contract at the same pay?

Its just so hypocritical. He is a penny pincher when it comes to signings, yet gives away money when it comes to current player salaries. I feel this is the case, as signings are newsworthy and Wenger likes his reputation as financially prudent. Example, Arteta and Rosicky signing new deals gets a passive mention in the papers. Yet on big stories such as the Suarez pursuit, he keeps up the appearance of being financially prudent by offering an extra pound to sign Suarez. If Rosicky and Arteta's deals were not renewed, it would save 7m per year, yet Wenger 'out of principle', wouldnt go from 40 to 50m for Suarez, just because he didnt think Suarez was worth it. Thus keeping up his reputation as a financier.

I find it so ridiculous, on a football and business narrative, to squirm at having to pay an extra 10m in a transfer to secure one of the worlds best, yet at the time time be absolutely indifferent to handing out 7m a year to two players who are not needed.

When you dig beyond the cliche's and sound bites, Wenger really is just a fraud. He isnt financially savvy, he makes more than his fair share of poor investments, however he really does allocate resources horribly.