THE WENGER THREAD

[xisstential]

There is a protest before palace home on 27 April. Think I posted before

I was just going to post that everyone seems to be going round in circles again and then I saw your post.
I had already heard of this protest and just wondered if anyone knew how big it was likely to be?
I wasn't planning on coming to the game but if there is a big protest planned then I will make the effort to come for that. I really am beginning to think that the future of the club depends on these next few weeks. If Wenger is going to go then he has to go at end of this season. If not then I fear he will be there for at least the next 4 years...,

He's not going, he said he's not. I would like to see fans ripping the hoardings apart with their bare hands so people can wake up to just how totally pissed off we are but that is never going to happen. We use the word deluded very cheaply nowadays but I truly think Wenger is. As he said, the fans fury (mild annoyance) is how he sees it, is normally in response to a recent loss, but it is fleeting and quickly passes. Pay it no mind, the fans are a fickle bunch, to be sneeringly patronised. He has no idea of the depth of the animosity toward him, either that or he chooses not to.

Anyway, he isn't going, he said as much. He lies about everything, but not about this.

[Sean]

Arteta on 80k a week. Which was last extended July 2015. He has only played 19 times since, mostly of the bench.

Rosicky on 85k a week, last extension in May 2015. He was 33 years old at the time of extension.

When these deals were renegotiated, did Wenger say, your approaching your mid thirties and will rarely feature going forward, and thus your going to have to take a massive pay cut to stay on? Or did Wenger just offer a new contract at the same pay?

Its just so hypocritical. He is a penny pincher when it comes to signings, yet gives away money when it comes to current player salaries. I feel this is the case, as signings are newsworthy and Wenger likes his reputation as financially prudent. Example, Arteta and Rosicky signing new deals gets a passive mention in the papers. Yet on big stories such as the Suarez pursuit, he keeps up the appearance of being financially prudent by offering an extra pound to sign Suarez. If Rosicky and Arteta's deals were not renewed, it would save 7m per year, yet Wenger 'out of principle', wouldnt go from 40 to 50m for Suarez, just because he didnt think Suarez was worth it. Thus keeping up his reputation as a financier.

I find it so ridiculous, on a football and business narrative, to squirm at having to pay an extra 10m in a transfer to secure one of the worlds best, yet at the time time be absolutely indifferent to handing out 7m a year to two players who are not needed.

When you dig beyond the cliche's and sound bites, Wenger really is just a fraud. He isnt financially savvy, he makes more than his fair share of poor investments, however he really does allocate resources horribly.

His 'change of philosophy', to allow him to keep over-the-hill squad players on their massive wages, after treating the likes of Bergkamp and Pires to rolling one year deals is a disgrace.

Arteta was a good servant to the club during a difficult time, but his legs had gone about three years ago and should have been let go then. Rosicky has hardly played this season and should have been let go last summer.

It was scandalous how we handled the Suarez deal. We would have been champions at least twice had we got him. Liverpool even admitted we did fulfil the clause, but they rejected it anyway (illegally) due to our piss-taking bid. Why not bid £40.1M FFS?

Wenger is a fucking fraud

I'd like to momentarily return to the theory that Lord A-hole would have stepped down had we lost the 2014 cup final to Hull. Simply put, don't believe a word of it.
Frankly this season, it's not only that he's going trophyless but more that he's been humiliated by Leicester and Spuds. Over a whole season. SURELY X there's nowhere to hide - right?
Wrong. He insists he doesn't care and will carry on regardless
People need to remember that he's the second highest paid manager in Europe and that his stock is so low, there isn't a single top 10 European club that would have him as their manager. Not one, their club's fans wouldn't ever stand for that low level of Loser-dom. There's only one set of fans anywhere in Europe who would tolerate this and the past 12 years is evidence enough.

Officially, he 'didn't know' if he would have gone had we lost that final. He admitted that it may have been hard to stay. Although I think we have enough evidence to know he doesn't give a fuck about what the 'customers' think.

This season has been a farce. The worst thing is that we seen it coming - Yet again. Our own season has collapsed as usual.

I do wish he'd do us a favour and fuck off to Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern Munich

GREAT NEWS!!

Arsene Wenger insists he has 'no doubt' he will remain Arsenal manager next season.

The Frenchman has come under increasing pressure from fans with the Gunners title hopes in tatters after a disappointing run of results left the club 11 points behind Premier League leaders Leicester City with a game in hand.

However, Wenger is adamant he will not be leaving the Emirates and remains committed to the club.

Asked if there were any doubts he would be Arsenal boss next season, Wenger exclusively told beIN Sports: 'I have no doubt, no, because I am committed. When I do something I do it 100 per cent. I am always committed to give my best as long as I am at the club.'

Wenger, who is approaching two decades in the Arsenal hotseat, admitted criticism from supporters is 'not very welcome'.



Remember folks criticism is not welcome. He is giving 100%, it's not good enough but hey, so what.

Well he is contracted for next season, regardless

I am just waiting for the terrible news that the contract will be extended to 2019 as has been widely rumoured

Unlikely that we will have a total collapse from here on, but would that raise the anger to a level that would convince wenker that he no longer has the support of the fans ? Many of you seem to feel that there is nothing out there that will inflame the fans enough to provoke a rebellion, and I find that amazing in a season where we are likely to finish below the scum and Leicester ffs

It seems we'll go on our usual flat-track-bully run to the VT.

I do think that match-goers should do whatever it takes to convince the club not to offer TOF another deal. Banners, chants, etc. At least until the inevitable happens and the old bastard stays forever.

Losing the title to Leicester (and finishing behind the Scum) is unacceptable. That is now five bottled titles in the Cashburton era. At any other club, especially given the piss-taking ticket prices, there would be mass demonstrations. Although most of the fans seem to be anaesthetised (Are they drugging the lattes at Cashburton?).

"Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger, 66, says he has no plans to leave during the summer despite unrest among some Gunners fans. (Bein Sports)"

The F***ING TWAT!

Spoil My Day, My Week, My Month, My Summer...You TWAT!

TO1AW

Thank fuck...

[falkirk goon]

Been past his sell by date since 2006..its 2016 and he is still here stinking the place out...i hate the man and what he has made our club become...
He will still be here in 2026

[Ikechukwu1]

Unlikely that we will have a total collapse from here on, but would that raise the anger to a level that would convince wenker that he no longer has the support of the fans ? Many of you seem to feel that there is nothing out there that will inflame the fans enough to provoke a rebellion, and I find that amazing in a season where we are likely to finish below the scum and Leicester ffs

Augie. I might take pot shots at the shee...sorry, fans at the Emirates but that is for a reason. As I mentioned to you a while back my boycott of Wenker FC began in 2009 after that disgusting home thrashing at home to ManYoo in CL semi. Tie over after just 20 mins. Having chucked the title the previous year in scandalous fashion (Galls and Clichy at Brum) I was expecting the mother of all anger. Instead? Casually stream out the ground after 20-30 minutes. Not a peep.
My mate and I the only ones giving it verbals in our section.

Now here is a sample of things Wenker has done since 2009, and bear in mind that he has felt no vitriol for any of this:

1. Said he would "take 2nd place for the next 20 years"
2. Said that fans "hadn't worked half a day in football"
3. Cancelled the only avenue fans had to question him at annual Q&A after a fan dared to slate Silvestre
4. Let the Chavs sign Fabregas and watched them walk the league
5. Sold RVP to ManYoo and watched him win it for them
6. Lost 5-2, 6-3, 6-0 (in his 1000th game) and 3-0 at Goodison in the SAME season
7. Lost 8-2 at OT
8. Was the only manager in top 5 European leagues to sign no outfield players despite record cash in the bank
9. Despite accounts showing money available, signed OAP Sol, OAP Jens, and brought back "I can't find a club" Flamini
10. Lied numerous times about injuries to justify inaction in the transfer window

Finally

11. Managed to watch Spuds and Leicester overtake us hence killing his decade of excuses

12. Told the fans HE BUILT THE CLUB


Now. Take all the above into consideration. At any other club in Europe, and I'm talking even mid-table clubs, Wenker would have been chased out of town and would need a security detail.

Yet over here, he has been given contract sheet contract, continues to have a sizeable portion of apologists and had never ever heard a squeak of dissent, and I mean outright dissent - in the ground.

It's the same as with Kroenke: why do people expect Stan to change his modus ops? Each July he checks the income stream and sees that ST renewals are high. Why change a thing?

Same with Wenker. The more outrageous his actions, the less consequences he suffers. The guy has been allowed to get away with it for so so long. Any wonder he feels invincible?

Now you see if ManYoo, Liverpool or even Chav fans would let any manager get away with even 25% of the stunts Lord A Hole has pulled

[Redarmy]

OK lets get 100% behind this walkout for the Palace game, this is the time for action, something positive has to be done FFS

Maybe just maybe we can get him out

[Steve_I]

How's the most cheerful corner of the Arsenal online world?

still championing a losing horse? What is it now; a decade of wanting our best ever manager out?

Arsenal's 'managerouters' are the crappest going. A decade of failure! Bottom of the ManagerOuter league by some distance.

Hey ho! Good luck. UTA.

[g88ner]

OK lets get 100% behind this walkout for the Palace game, this is the time for action, something positive has to be done FFS

Maybe just maybe we can get him out

Whether you get significant numbers will depend greatly on whether we're in a title race or not.

Beat Watford and West Ham, whilst Liverpool beat Sp*rs and Leicester lose at Sunderland and the fans will (quite rightly) want to generate a supportive environment as we chase the title.

Lose at West Ham and go 8pts behind Sp*rs and/or 14pts behind Leicester and people will be seriously pissed off.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

I’m all for Wenger leaving, im not going to go into why I hope he could leave on a high at the end of the season as a) its not going to happen and b) I don’t think he will be leaving!

The only way he would walk is with pressure from the fans but i don’t think even that’s really enough. I agree with the sentiments of the banner and people’s rights to show it – but not a huge fan of them myself. As for all the fighting, I hear a lot of whining from those holding the banner.......but what would the reaction be if someone showed an “Arsene is god one”? Probably receive the same treatment.

I want him gone at the end of the season, but it won’t happen. So what can we hope for? I hate the Emirates at the moment, it’s depressing, its vicious at times and i genuinely believe its cost us a couple of points across the season.

The only way I can see out of it is if he says publicly he will stand down at the end of 2017. The bile will stop, he will get one more crack at it and both sides will be happy knowing its coming to an end and maybe the support for the team and manager might improve massively on matchdays. Maybe that way there is a (small) chance he can indeed leave on a high.

[Gunner Rob]

OK lets get 100% behind this walkout for the Palace game, this is the time for action, something positive has to be done FFS

Maybe just maybe we can get him out

Whether you get significant numbers will depend greatly on whether we're in a title race or not.

Beat Watford and West Ham, whilst Liverpool beat Sp*rs and Leicester lose at Sunderland and the fans will (quite rightly) want to generate a supportive environment as we chase the title.

Lose at West Ham and go 8pts behind Sp*rs and/or 14pts behind Leicester and people will be seriously pissed off.

I note that you didn't consider us losing at home to Watford. This is the kind of arrogance that both the team and Arsenal supporters have been guilty of all season. It is the "easy" games which will ultimately cost us the title. Points needlessly tossed away whilst meanwhile Leicester City and Spurs grind out results week in week out.
Don't forget this is international week, the players will arrive back and Wenger will just say go out and enjoy yourselves. There will be no game plan, the substitutions will be pre planned, no tactics, nothing...and Watford know they can beat us here. I expect a draw at best.

[northbank123]

How's the most cheerful corner of the Arsenal online world?

still championing a losing horse? What is it now; a decade of wanting our best ever manager out?

Arsenal's 'managerouters' are the crappest going. A decade of failure! Bottom of the ManagerOuter league by some distance.

Hey ho! Good luck. UTA.

Obviously praying to high heaven that Wes Morgan, Danny Drinkwater and co can hold off Spurs to win the title that might as well have been gift-wrapped for us has done nothing to dampen your spirits.

Still, it's good for football hey?

[g88ner]

OK lets get 100% behind this walkout for the Palace game, this is the time for action, something positive has to be done FFS

Maybe just maybe we can get him out

Whether you get significant numbers will depend greatly on whether we're in a title race or not.

Beat Watford and West Ham, whilst Liverpool beat Sp*rs and Leicester lose at Sunderland and the fans will (quite rightly) want to generate a supportive environment as we chase the title.

Lose at West Ham and go 8pts behind Sp*rs and/or 14pts behind Leicester and people will be seriously pissed off.

I note that you didn't consider us losing at home to Watford. This is the kind of arrogance that both the team and Arsenal supporters have been guilty of all season. It is the "easy" games which will ultimately cost us the title. Points needlessly tossed away whilst meanwhile Leicester City and Spurs grind out results week in week out.
Don't forget this is international week, the players will arrive back and Wenger will just say go out and enjoy yourselves. There will be no game plan, the substitutions will be pre planned, no tactics, nothing...and Watford know they can beat us here. I expect a draw at best.

Arrogance?

Fucking hell mate, I was merely suggesting scenarios! It was no way intended to be exhaustive. I used losing at West Ham as an example, but Watford works just the same as my point was that the success of any protest will be results driven.

But yeah, ok - twist my words so it seems arrogant

[Perryashburtongroves]

If we had the w@nk sign emoticon, I would be using it every time I mention that *word censored* in charge. He's like an uninvited guest at a party who nobody likes and who won't leave. In any other club, somebody would just sit him down and tell him to fuck off but he's such an ego maniac that he has spent at least 10 years and possibly as many as 15 selfishly manufacturing a role for himself where he can do what he wants, when he wants. Even going back to about 2001-02, he was doing all that, I might leave, I might not sign a new contract bollocks. I honestly think it was all part of a scheming, manipulative plan to get exactly what he wanted. I reckon in about 1997-98, he had his feet under the table and started making long term plans to do absolutely everything for could to try our his plan. He realised that he would be never get another chance and wanted to try out some selfish, personal plan on a club. He tried it at Monaco and got told to fuck off and realised that in Japan he was never going to be able to make it work so when he came to us, he had the chance to do exactly what he wanted, whenever he wanted. All he needed to do was buy himself some time and luckily enough, he inherited a good squad who needed a bit of confidence and a couple of players like Vieria and Petit. Then bingo, the board thought he was some sort of fucking genius and he had them in the palm of his hand. Even as early as 2001-02, he spent fuck all, and he then realised the new ground gave him a perfect excuse to enact his plans of youth players, socialist values and penny pinching. He is a wholly selfish user who takes, takes, takes everything and does it on his terms without giving anything back. If he had even an ounce of respect for the fans or even players, he would simply piss off in May. Piss off as a failure, a fraud and and as never-has-been.

[Herd]

I have sold mine right up to the Villa game which I will attend , I dont think i will renew ,as a bond holder i can drop out and be on silver so it wont be a problem should I want to go ,Im sick of the whole thing frankly !

[Eboue-Why?]

He's now saying that criticism from fans about his management is undermining our bid to win the league.

Yeah, sorry Arsene, our fault again, could never be yours could it old chum? Clearly our fault. Sorry to have ever thought that any of the shit last few weeks could ever have been down to you.

Hope you'll forgive us...

[blair207]

OK lets get 100% behind this walkout for the Palace game, this is the time for action, something positive has to be done FFS

Maybe just maybe we can get him out

Whether you get significant numbers will depend greatly on whether we're in a title race or not.

Beat Watford and West Ham, whilst Liverpool beat Sp*rs and Leicester lose at Sunderland and the fans will (quite rightly) want to generate a supportive environment as we chase the title.

Lose at West Ham and go 8pts behind Sp*rs and/or 14pts behind Leicester and people will be seriously pissed off.

I note that you didn't consider us losing at home to Watford. This is the kind of arrogance that both the team and Arsenal supporters have been guilty of all season. It is the "easy" games which will ultimately cost us the title. Points needlessly tossed away whilst meanwhile Leicester City and Spurs grind out results week in week out.
Don't forget this is international week, the players will arrive back and Wenger will just say go out and enjoy yourselves. There will be no game plan, the substitutions will be pre planned, no tactics, nothing...and Watford know they can beat us here. I expect a draw at best.

Think we will win thus one easily. Watfords minds will be on the FA Cup. I know quite a few of the players will have played in international games but this is the sort of game we usually win.