THE WENGER THREAD

[EC3]

Reference RVP, the move had nothing to do with the huge increase in salary?

[Ikechukwu1]

Reference RVP, the move had nothing to do with the huge increase in salary?

Yeah. Cos that rival offer he had from Citeh would have been comparative peanuts eh?
Any promotion usually involves a payrise.
Unless you happen to be at Wenker FC where pay increase is correlated with failure

[StuartL]

that mickey cannon bloke in the fanzine talks a load of shite, didn't realise there were sheep amongst the gooner staff- no offence but he actually agrred with wenger's stance re leicester winning the league, saying it's not our fault as we've beaten them twice, like that is the limit of our responsibility.

i do wonder what is wrong with some of our fans, where does this apathy come from? oh and guess what, if that's not mental enough, he said that mertesacker was a leader. a fucking leader. what sort of leader gets himself sent off like that v chelsea? the only way he leads is like the first lemming to fall off the fucking wall into oblivion ffs

seriously, this guy must be on an april fools winds up, just as I thought most people were catching on and yet there are still mentalists like him writing for a fanzine!?

gooner ed, please tell me he is being sectioned and put on heavy dosage so he will be no harm to his family and friends

Got my copy of the latest edition today too and couldn't believe the rubbish he spouted.

We beat Leicester twice so what, we've lost to WBA, Swansea, capitulated to Southampton, been gutless v Mancs and failed to look remotely interested in games away at Norwich etc, etc

This however comes from a guy who had the audacity to have a pop at internet fans who hide behind pseudonyms - when he calls himself Mickey cannon from cannonbury, and has a cannon as a body ! Laughable really.

[SteveO 35]

Here's a Pravda video from last May:

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The window-licker comments beggar belief. They sound like members of a cult.

TOF only sleeps 3-4 hours per night

Strangely, there was nothing about tactics, planning for the opposition or his 70th minute substitutions

It was almost shocking to hear that the players do gee themselves up, Steve Bould is allowed to speak in certain circumstances, and TOF actually does have a drink with the opposition manager after the game. I didn't think he considered them worthy to breathe the same air as himself.

I'm still waiting for the dreaded contract extension to 2019

Looks like Ozil's a goner. RvP, Part II.

TOF's double standards when it comes to players speaking out is shocking. He'll accept all the praise from the players he's literally given a career to, but won't accept any constructive criticism from a World Cup winner.

Not quite the same. We carried RVP through his multiple injury seasons, he had one good one and off he went. I think he owed the club some kind of loyalty. Ozil owes us nothing.

I'm not so sure there is a difference Cas, as i understand it RVP asked for reinforcements much the same as Ozil and when they weren't forthcoming he left to find success elsewhere.

I get your point on loyalty but RVP was already getting on when he left us and would have only had a few good seasons left at most, I think he would have stayed if the team had been strengthened as he'd asked.

Precisely.

Ahh...there he is. The Grand Master with his lovechild. The clip might be from last May but would equally apply now

Ramsey "Boss, I'm sorry I've been shite lately"
TO1AW "Don't worry Aaron. That boy Iwobi had the cheek to run 30 yards and score at Everton and ignored my instructions to twirl on the halfway line and backheel it to their left winger. Think you can manage that?"
Ramsey "Sure thing boss"

[northbank123]

Ozil is a player who could earn as much (or more) and play at a higher level. Hence why he is speaking out from genuine frustration at not giving ourselves the best chance to win things.

whereas the majority of our overpaid and over-promoted squad will just bleat out the usual "we have learned out lessons" type bollocks. Although could you imagine the irony of somebody like Flamini or Giroud coming out and demanding better signings? They would be the first ones dislodged from their thrones in the revolution.

[armchair]

Notice how Wenger is now being questioned about his future?
Thats not because people gave up their season ticket or stopped buying stuff in the armoury.
Its because the fans, by direct action have called for change and the media have reported and highlighted it.
The fact that Wenger has thrown away a golden opportunity to win the title, by his egotistical in-action just makes it all so glaringly obvious.
If the shows of dissent and protests against Wenger continue he wont renew.
Protesting against Kroenke is a waste of time. Wont affect anything on the pitch.

[Ikechukwu1]

Notice how Wenger is now being questioned about his future?
Thats not because people gave up their season ticket or stopped buying stuff in the armoury.
Its because the fans, by direct action have called for change and the media have reported and highlighted it.
The fact that Wenger has thrown away a golden opportunity to win the title, by his egotistical in-action just makes it all so glaringly obvious.
If the shows of dissent and protests against Wenger continue he wont renew.
Protesting against Kroenke is a waste of time. Wont affect anything on the pitch.

Completely agree with this. Therefore expect Red Action et al to make loud anti-Kroenke chants which will further muddy the waters
The fans will decide his future. If the noise gets cranked up and chants are specifically aimed at him it'll be impossible to ignore. If however we get more Kroenke songs like at Everton, the media and turd-scoffers like Amy Lawrence will use that as an opportunity to write articles talking about discontent against Kroenke (there'll be no mentions of TO1AW)

[armchair]

Notice how Wenger is now being questioned about his future?
Thats not because people gave up their season ticket or stopped buying stuff in the armoury.
Its because the fans, by direct action have called for change and the media have reported and highlighted it.
The fact that Wenger has thrown away a golden opportunity to win the title, by his egotistical in-action just makes it all so glaringly obvious.
If the shows of dissent and protests against Wenger continue he wont renew.
Protesting against Kroenke is a waste of time. Wont affect anything on the pitch.

Completely agree with this. Therefore expect Red Action et al to make loud anti-Kroenke chants which will further muddy the waters
The fans will decide his future. If the noise gets cranked up and chants are specifically aimed at him it'll be impossible to ignore. If however we get more Kroenke songs like at Everton, the media and turd-scoffers like Amy Lawrence will use that as an opportunity to write articles talking about discontent against Kroenke (there'll be no mentions of TO1AW)

Unfortunately mate, its gonna happen.
Protesting against Wenger is dangerous and a toxic subject, liable to get you a slap or spat on. Kroenke, on the other hand is an easy target, not at all controversial.
Its gonna take the spotlight off Wenger though and right now, when we have momentum its totally, totally the wrong thing to do imo.

[Ikechukwu1]

Mind you don't forget, "I want him to leave with his head held high" and "he's earned the right to shit on your head and ***** off on your doorstep"

It's unreal any Arsenal fan would want him to have a dignified exit after the way he's talked down to us peasants. The shocker is that at the end of a week where we remembered a true Gunner legend like Rocky, apparently the likes of him are erased from folklore, as are Anfield 89, the signing of Bergkamp and Parma in the CWC final. Why? Cos the club hadn't been "built" yet by our Lord and Master Fuckstick. Duh!

Guy increasingly reminds me of Louis the 16th in France. Similar arrogance, absolute detachment from reality, incompetent and smug. Mind you, Louis 16 thought he was untouchable and mocked the peasantry...remember what happened to him in the end?

[Ikechukwu1]

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/arsenal/story/2 ... ene-wenger

So it's ok for pricks like Giroud to embarrass the club by mouthing off every preseason about how we are gonna win the league.

It's fine for Wankpot to spout shite about how "teams will be scared" to draw us in the CL despite that bluster shaming the club

It's fine for a nobody like Coquelin to chat shit

But Ozil says what everyone knows? Won't spout propaganda? Tut tut.

The fans should chant Ozil's name loud and clear tomorrow. Imagine how much Lord Cum-cheeks will like that

[Sean]

Notice how Wenger is now being questioned about his future?
Thats not because people gave up their season ticket or stopped buying stuff in the armoury.
Its because the fans, by direct action have called for change and the media have reported and highlighted it.
The fact that Wenger has thrown away a golden opportunity to win the title, by his egotistical in-action just makes it all so glaringly obvious.
If the shows of dissent and protests against Wenger continue he wont renew.
Protesting against Kroenke is a waste of time. Wont affect anything on the pitch.

Pressure must be kept up on The Old Fraud. It's the only hope we have that he may not sign another deal

The board will never sack him, so we must focus on him. He hates being questioned and the fan unrest does affect him; expect more hissy-fits in press conferences as he gets asked time and again why he doesn't strengthen the squad, doesn't do tactics and bottles titles and cups left and right and yet somehow still earns over £23K per day for being an administrator.

Hound him out!

Completely agree with this. Therefore expect Red Action et al to make loud anti-Kroenke chants which will further muddy the waters
The fans will decide his future. If the noise gets cranked up and chants are specifically aimed at him it'll be impossible to ignore. If however we get more Kroenke songs like at Everton, the media and turd-scoffers like Amy Lawrence will use that as an opportunity to write articles talking about discontent against Kroenke (there'll be no mentions of TO1AW)

Unfortunately mate, its gonna happen.
Protesting against Wenger is dangerous and a toxic subject, liable to get you a slap or spat on. Kroenke, on the other hand is an easy target, not at all controversial.
Its gonna take the spotlight off Wenger though and right now, when we have momentum its totally, totally the wrong thing to do imo.

Unfortunately this is just as likely to happen. Anti-Kroenke chants are too 'safe' for our passive happy-clappers and Tarquins to ignore. Plus it conveniently muddies the waters for the insane AKB.

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/arsenal/story/2 ... ene-wenger

So it's ok for pricks like Giroud to embarrass the club by mouthing off every preseason about how we are gonna win the league.

It's fine for Wankpot to spout shite about how "teams will be scared" to draw us in the CL despite that bluster shaming the club

It's fine for a nobody like Coquelin to chat shit

But Ozil says what everyone knows? Won't spout propaganda? Tut tut.

The fans should chant Ozil's name loud and clear tomorrow. Imagine how much Lord Cum-cheeks will like that

Unfortunately, the Ozil song vaguely praises The Old Fraud. Which is why I'm not a fan of the song.

Did he really sign Ozil, or was that done over his head and he took the praise for it? It makes the song even worse.

[Wilson]

Dont even agree with Wenger's sentiment we need to be 'united' in the run in. Whats wrong with some home truths being delivered to make some of the players uncomfortable? Too many of them live in a comfort zone and simply go through the motions, which is a reason for the lack of progress individually and as a team.

No one is prepared to tell Ramsey he is regressing, is a sloppy passer of the ball, a defensive liability, and his goal return has dried up meaning his position in the team is hard to justify.

No one is prepared to tell Giroud that he has let the team down after insisting Arsenal dont need to sign a striker. 2 league goals (in the same match) since the turn of the new year says otherwise. 9 league games without a goal during a time we struggled to score. Giroud asked to lead the line and assume the responsibility - and he let the team down. Repercussions for Giroud, probably none. Wenger avoids confrontation like its the plague

Walcott 10 seasons at the club with 54 league goals to his name (averaging 5 goals a season). Whats wrong with suggesting he is undeserving of his 140k a week and should be moving to West Ham.

All Ozil did was tell the truth, and its nothing anyone hasnt said before, but the fact it came from within scares the shit out of Wenger, as an opinion from his best player mirroring the opinions of the masses critical of Wenger, threatens to shatter the delusional world our manager and squad live in - how can Wenger and his disciples (Walcott, Giroud, Ramsey, ect) ignore the criticism when its coming from our best player???????

[Wilson]

Id like to see the fans openly side with Ozil over Wenger.

We were wrong to get the knives out for RVP. All his departure proved, was Wenger lacked any serious ambition. FFS, even Nasri departure proved insight into Wenger's absolute lack of ambition.

Mind you, the egomaniac might in a jealous fit of rage sell Ozil.

[Wilson]

Id like to see the fans openly side with Ozil over Wenger.

We were wrong to get the knives out for RVP. All his departure proved, was Wenger lacked any serious ambition. FFS, even Nasri departure proved insight into Wenger's absolute lack of ambition.

Mind you, the egomaniac might in a jealous fit of rage sell Ozil.

[Wilson]

Id like to see the fans openly side with Ozil over Wenger.

We were wrong to get the knives out for RVP. All his departure proved, was Wenger lacked any serious ambition. FFS, even Nasri departure proved insight into Wenger's absolute lack of ambition.

Mind you, the egomaniac might in a jealous fit of rage sell Ozil.