THE WENGER THREAD

[Bradywasking]

Twitter still full of AKBs even if some are taking a slightly different approach by suggesting loyalty to Wenger is only an extension of loyalty to the club and therefore are claiming the moral high ground. They also suggest any display of protest is a sign of disloyalty to the club..Seriously these people belong in North Korea.
Someone just asked where does it end, well there can only be one way to end it properly and that ain't happening soon..

[OneBardGooner]

This shows nothing we didn't already know ... but it is still a pretty damning statistic.

Fuck having our famously bad Novembers, we as a team are totally fucking allergic to spring. The gutless bastards should be told that a season lasts nine months, not six or seven months, FFS

Having seen those stats I'm waiting for the *word censored* to say 'Judge me in October'

[OneBardGooner]

Twitter still full of AKBs even if some are taking a slightly different approach by suggesting loyalty to Wenger is only an extension of loyalty to the club and therefore are claiming the moral high ground. They also suggest any display of protest is a sign of disloyalty to the club..Seriously these people belong in North Korea.
Someone just asked where does it end, well there can only be one way to end it properly and that ain't happening soon..

People (in general) are fearful of change - Change being 'The Unknown'...it is deeply ingrained in the human psyche and no matter how obvious the circumstances or situation the majority of people will 'Cling' to the established order - Even when they can see it is blatantly Not working - It is not unusual for a couple to remain in a relationship that isn't working because they are more fearful of the unknown than they are of their curent situation no matter how awful it may be...akin to being a rabbit caught in the headlights afraid to move a muscle even though they know they will most likely get mowed down......It is not unusual for people who find themselves part of something not working or stuck in a situation where they will allow themselves to make all kinds of ridiculous excuses to remain in that place rather than "Change".


Sad but True.

[DB10GOONER]

Twitter still full of AKBs even if some are taking a slightly different approach by suggesting loyalty to Wenger is only an extension of loyalty to the club and therefore are claiming the moral high ground. They also suggest any display of protest is a sign of disloyalty to the club..Seriously these people belong in North Korea.
Someone just asked where does it end, well there can only be one way to end it properly and that ain't happening soon..

It makes you wonder if these arseholes ever attended a game before 1996 tbh.

I remember being at Highbury for games when Stewart Houston was getting dogs abuse and there were loud calls for him to fuck off from the stands. No one seem to think this was disloyal and feel the need to assault fellow Gooners over it.

[OneBardGooner]

Yo! Arsene it's Stevie your biggest fan - Yeah! that's right Ty's mate!

[Ikechukwu1]

One thing that's particularly making me laugh are the loud leaks from the club that Wenker is "going to get ruthless" and have a "radical overhaul"
Question: who still believes this bollocks?

For starters, if the club are truly going to let him ditch a load of players and sign a whole host, that's a sure sign a new contract is coming in summer of 2017! You don't let someone do that much activity if they aren't gonna hang around.

Second point is, who is excited by signing players? I would guess nobody with a brain is anymore. Because we have just seen a team with £42m Ozil, £35m Sanchez, £13m Koscielny, £10m Petr Cech etc get absolutely blitzed by Leicester fucking City. 13 points back. So it really, REALLY doesn't matter who he signs because his bland, stale, incompetent management and Losers mentality will only alienate players - see Mesut.

Finally, if Wenker has a "radical overhaul", after 12 years of "building" a title-winning side (that hasn't made top 2 in that period) what does that say? If he has a squad on annual £193m wages and he needs a "radical overhaul" then what does that say about his incompetence? Could you trust him with a single penny?
Ranieri has won a league title with a swuad that cost less than one Alexis Sanchez. Yet Wenker needs a "radical overhaul"? In any other business failing in that way with those resources would have your P45 on your desk first thing.
A radical overhaul would also be an admittance that Wenker is a Specialist in Failure, who has been bluffing for over a decade.

We know he's too arrogant and up his own arse hole for that. Just consider some of the things he's done this season:

* Dropped Cech in the CL as an "experiment" costing humiliating results
* Played a farcical Cup team at home to Watford, at home to Hull too
* Watched us get thrashed by Sheffield Wednesday
* Dropped Cech AGAIN to "prove" some bs point but West Ham made him look every inch the c*** he truly is

He can't have a radical overhaul because:

Ox is on £60k a week already. Unless Citeh or Chelski take him for homegrown status, he's going nowhere

Ramsey on over £100k a week. Good luck.

Giroud, a guy who's been inferior to Vardy, Bony, and even bloody Michu (let alone Aguero or Kane) is on £120k a week. Yet Giroud wouldn't get in the Watford team

W*nkcott. £140k a week. LOL.

We are stuck with the shite.

And this morning I read Wenker has bid £24m for Xhaka even though Gladbach have made it clear they want £32m. STILL the club leaves this dickhead in charge of transfer negotiations. So still we will have more Suarez +£1 scenarios, and "I won't pay £1.5m for Schwarzer and keep Almunia instead" situations.

It's a total farce. But he "built the club" and so roll up, roll up, get yer value ST renewals right here

[markyp]

One thing that's particularly making me laugh are the loud leaks from the club that Wenker is "going to get ruthless" and have a "radical overhaul"
Question: who still believes this bollocks?

For starters, if the club are truly going to let him ditch a load of players and sign a whole host, that's a sure sign a new contract is coming in summer of 2017! You don't let someone do that much activity if they aren't gonna hang around.

Second point is, who is excited by signing players? I would guess nobody with a brain is anymore. Because we have just seen a team with £42m Ozil, £35m Sanchez, £13m Koscielny, £10m Petr Cech etc get absolutely blitzed by Leicester fucking City. 13 points back. So it really, REALLY doesn't matter who he signs because his bland, stale, incompetent management and Losers mentality will only alienate players - see Mesut.

Finally, if Wenker has a "radical overhaul", after 12 years of "building" a title-winning side (that hasn't made top 2 in that period) what does that say? If he has a squad on annual £193m wages and he needs a "radical overhaul" then what does that say about his incompetence? Could you trust him with a single penny?
Ranieri has won a league title with a swuad that cost less than one Alexis Sanchez. Yet Wenker needs a "radical overhaul"? In any other business failing in that way with those resources would have your P45 on your desk first thing.
A radical overhaul would also be an admittance that Wenker is a Specialist in Failure, who has been bluffing for over a decade.

We know he's too arrogant and up his own arse hole for that. Just consider some of the things he's done this season:

* Dropped Cech in the CL as an "experiment" costing humiliating results
* Played a farcical Cup team at home to Watford, at home to Hull too
* Watched us get thrashed by Sheffield Wednesday
* Dropped Cech AGAIN to "prove" some bs point but West Ham made him look every inch the c*** he truly is

He can't have a radical overhaul because:

Ox is on £60k a week already. Unless Citeh or Chelski take him for homegrown status, he's going nowhere

Ramsey on over £100k a week. Good luck.

Giroud, a guy who's been inferior to Vardy, Bony, and even bloody Michu (let alone Aguero or Kane) is on £120k a week. Yet Giroud wouldn't get in the Watford team

W*nkcott. £140k a week. LOL.

We are stuck with the shite.

And this morning I read Wenker has bid £24m for Xhaka even though Gladbach have made it clear they want £32m. STILL the club leaves this dickhead in charge of transfer negotiations. So still we will have more Suarez +£1 scenarios, and "I won't pay £1.5m for Schwarzer and keep Almunia instead" situations.

It's a total farce. But he "built the club" and so roll up, roll up, get yer value ST renewals right here

wenkers gonna get ruthless,WTF!!! he could get rid of the whole current squad,backroom staff,gunnersuarus rex etc etc bring in every player and staff from Barca as replacements and we would still finish 4th,wenker aint the solution wenker is the problem,why cant he see it when every body else can

[Rob Admin]

It doesn't matter who Wenger signs, his recent record shows that he ruins players, runs them into the game and slowly drains their talent until they are injury prone imitations of the player signed 18 months previous.

Wenger is a gloryfied talent scout, he can spot them but he certainly cannot motivate, manage or else release any tactical potential in anyone any longer. No one fears for the their place, no one gets a bollocking when it goes tits up, it must be the easiest job in football playing for Arsenal. Joke club run my a joke dictator.

[xisstential]

"Carroll duly made mincemeat of Gabriel and Hector Bellerin in the air, scoring a hat-trick and turning the game on its head.

Wenger didn't exactly cover himself in glory afterwards by admitting he didn't expect Carroll to start. Had he known, surely Per Mertesacker and goalkeeper Petr Cech would have played.


Giroud has scored 20 times this season so can hardly be faulted, but it might have been an idea to sign another reliable scorer back in the summer to reduce his burden.

Welbeck has produced some good form since returning in February but it's a classic Arsenal case of too little, too late.

One hallmark of Wenger's title-winning sides was that there were always leaders who could stand up and be counted, dragging the team out of tight spots.

The current crop certainly lacks a Tony Adams, Patrick Vieira or Thierry Henry character to pull them through.

When they start conceding goals or losing the game, there's nobody taking a grip on proceedings. This has been alarmingly apparent in quite a few games this season."



Another long list of recurring failures. Failures which are repeated year in, year out and are never addressed. One of my big questions about Saturday is why, after Carroll had just scored twice, did Wenger not do something at half time. Instead he waited for Carroll to score again then flooded the field with attacking players??? How does he keep escaping censure?? And as for saying Giroud can hardly be faulted.... I don't even know where to begin in response..... Lazy, slow, petulant, displays an air of entitlement, not good enough........ that's just for starters

[DB10GOONER]

"Carroll duly made mincemeat of Gabriel and Hector Bellerin in the air, scoring a hat-trick and turning the game on its head.

Wenger didn't exactly cover himself in glory afterwards by admitting he didn't expect Carroll to start. Had he known, surely Per Mertesacker and goalkeeper Petr Cech would have played.


Giroud has scored 20 times this season so can hardly be faulted, but it might have been an idea to sign another reliable scorer back in the summer to reduce his burden.

Welbeck has produced some good form since returning in February but it's a classic Arsenal case of too little, too late.

One hallmark of Wenger's title-winning sides was that there were always leaders who could stand up and be counted, dragging the team out of tight spots.

The current crop certainly lacks a Tony Adams, Patrick Vieira or Thierry Henry character to pull them through.

When they start conceding goals or losing the game, there's nobody taking a grip on proceedings. This has been alarmingly apparent in quite a few games this season."



Another long list of recurring failures. Failures which are repeated year in, year out and are never addressed. One of my big questions about Saturday is why, after Carroll had just scored twice, did Wenger not do something at half time. Instead he waited for Carroll to score again then flooded the field with attacking players??? How does he keep escaping censure?? And as for saying Giroud can hardly be faulted.... I don't even know where to begin in response..... Lazy, slow, petulant, displays an air of entitlement, not good enough........ that's just for starters

Indeed, he flooded it with 3 players in the worst form of their careers; Giroud, Ramsey and Walcott.

[Redarmy]

"Carroll duly made mincemeat of Gabriel and Hector Bellerin in the air, scoring a hat-trick and turning the game on its head.

Wenger didn't exactly cover himself in glory afterwards by admitting he didn't expect Carroll to start. Had he known, surely Per Mertesacker and goalkeeper Petr Cech would have played.


Giroud has scored 20 times this season so can hardly be faulted, but it might have been an idea to sign another reliable scorer back in the summer to reduce his burden.

Welbeck has produced some good form since returning in February but it's a classic Arsenal case of too little, too late.

One hallmark of Wenger's title-winning sides was that there were always leaders who could stand up and be counted, dragging the team out of tight spots.

The current crop certainly lacks a Tony Adams, Patrick Vieira or Thierry Henry character to pull them through.

When they start conceding goals or losing the game, there's nobody taking a grip on proceedings. This has been alarmingly apparent in quite a few games this season."



Another long list of recurring failures. Failures which are repeated year in, year out and are never addressed. One of my big questions about Saturday is why, after Carroll had just scored twice, did Wenger not do something at half time. Instead he waited for Carroll to score again then flooded the field with attacking players??? How does he keep escaping censure?? And as for saying Giroud can hardly be faulted.... I don't even know where to begin in response..... Lazy, slow, petulant, displays an air of entitlement, not good enough........ that's just for starters

Thats the issue mistakes constantly repeated, No ONE is holding him accountable, the general malaise just drags on season after season...
Top at Christmas, then wheels some off out of CL and then out of title race...FFS
Watching the Arsenal has become a joke you never feel confident of any game
Wish them well but cannot be arsed to go any more while that Clueless fraud is still there

[BFG4]

It doesn't matter who Wenger signs, his recent record shows that he ruins players, runs them into the game and slowly drains their talent until they are injury prone imitations of the player signed 18 months previous.

Wenger is a gloryfied talent scout, he can spot them but he certainly cannot motivate, manage or else release any tactical potential in anyone any longer. No one fears for the their place, no one gets a bollocking when it goes tits up, it must be the easiest job in football playing for Arsenal. Joke club run my a joke dictator.

That piece at the end is the biggest indictment of Wenger's time in job. We sign weak minded, average players, and tell them they are world class. Whether it's Giroud, Walcott, Ramsey, (players that clearly aren't good enough), they are given big money deals, when they have done nothing to earn it. It's no surprise that the likes of Ozil have come out and criticized the club, as any player with ambition sees through the Arsene failure project. That's the one advantage of having so many average players in our squad, no chance of them wanting to leave, and Wenger has realized that. When Ozil joins RVP, and Fabregas in leaving the failure project, its apparently their fault

[armchair]

If the answer is.....Marcus fucking Rashford, Andy fucking Carroll and Shane fucking Long.........
What on earth could the question be.............

Wonder if Mr 30 fucking years knows?

[xisstential]

"Carroll duly made mincemeat of Gabriel and Hector Bellerin in the air, scoring a hat-trick and turning the game on its head.

Wenger didn't exactly cover himself in glory afterwards by admitting he didn't expect Carroll to start. Had he known, surely Per Mertesacker and goalkeeper Petr Cech would have played.


Giroud has scored 20 times this season so can hardly be faulted, but it might have been an idea to sign another reliable scorer back in the summer to reduce his burden.

Welbeck has produced some good form since returning in February but it's a classic Arsenal case of too little, too late.

One hallmark of Wenger's title-winning sides was that there were always leaders who could stand up and be counted, dragging the team out of tight spots.

The current crop certainly lacks a Tony Adams, Patrick Vieira or Thierry Henry character to pull them through.

When they start conceding goals or losing the game, there's nobody taking a grip on proceedings. This has been alarmingly apparent in quite a few games this season."



Another long list of recurring failures. Failures which are repeated year in, year out and are never addressed. One of my big questions about Saturday is why, after Carroll had just scored twice, did Wenger not do something at half time. Instead he waited for Carroll to score again then flooded the field with attacking players??? How does he keep escaping censure?? And as for saying Giroud can hardly be faulted.... I don't even know where to begin in response..... Lazy, slow, petulant, displays an air of entitlement, not good enough........ that's just for starters

Indeed, he flooded it with 3 players in the worst form of their careers; Giroud, Ramsey and Walcott.

As I said earlier I use the word "attacking" in the loosest possible term. Imagine looking on, realising you are in sh!t street and turning to those three???

[DB10GOONER]

"Carroll duly made mincemeat of Gabriel and Hector Bellerin in the air, scoring a hat-trick and turning the game on its head.

Wenger didn't exactly cover himself in glory afterwards by admitting he didn't expect Carroll to start. Had he known, surely Per Mertesacker and goalkeeper Petr Cech would have played.


Giroud has scored 20 times this season so can hardly be faulted, but it might have been an idea to sign another reliable scorer back in the summer to reduce his burden.

Welbeck has produced some good form since returning in February but it's a classic Arsenal case of too little, too late.

One hallmark of Wenger's title-winning sides was that there were always leaders who could stand up and be counted, dragging the team out of tight spots.

The current crop certainly lacks a Tony Adams, Patrick Vieira or Thierry Henry character to pull them through.

When they start conceding goals or losing the game, there's nobody taking a grip on proceedings. This has been alarmingly apparent in quite a few games this season."



Another long list of recurring failures. Failures which are repeated year in, year out and are never addressed. One of my big questions about Saturday is why, after Carroll had just scored twice, did Wenger not do something at half time. Instead he waited for Carroll to score again then flooded the field with attacking players??? How does he keep escaping censure?? And as for saying Giroud can hardly be faulted.... I don't even know where to begin in response..... Lazy, slow, petulant, displays an air of entitlement, not good enough........ that's just for starters

Indeed, he flooded it with 3 players in the worst form of their careers; Giroud, Ramsey and Walcott.

As I said earlier I use the word "attacking" in the loosest possible term. Imagine looking on, realising you are in sh!t street and turning to those three???

Agreed 100%. I know I sat there on Saturday and not one of those substitutions made me think, "We are in with a good shout of winning this now".