THE WENGER THREAD

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Booed heavily for taking Iwobi off so that's Iwobi's season over, he'll be joining Campbell, wherever the fuck he is??

He is such a colossal PRICK, he'll now punish the player to show the fans who's in charge. How the fuck is this allowed to happen, we're not even winning anything!!!

I hope Man City ream us.... that will destroy the "top of the table" away games trophy (which is a lie anyway, but seems to be accepted as truth???)

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Ok am i reading this correctly:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2016/04/30/ ... s/283624/?

Martin seems to think Mesut and Alexis are less likely to sign a new contract 'if' Arsene leaves............ I'm speechless :banghead:

So boring, tepid, lacklustre, one dimensional football with no tactics and fixed substitutions under Wenger

Or

Potentially interesting, multidimensional attacking football, with variation and tactical astuteness under just about any other Manager

And Keown thinks they wouldn't want that :?

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I am disappointed to report that at 12 mins and 78 mins at 'le bowl' there were many pro Wenger chants. Unfortunately the same support that Wemger blamed for losing the league title this season are incapable of putting any blame on le fraud.

I felt despondent today, I admit, I left the game at 79 mins before my emotions got the better of me. Good luck to those who are committed to Wenger, I'll be the guy running after you with a straight jacket.

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Keown sold his soul years ago....sad but true just like TH14 ....

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GoonerMuzz wrote:Ok am i reading this correctly:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2016/04/30/ ... s/283624/?

Martin seems to think Mesut and Alexis are less likely to sign a new contract 'if' Arsene leaves............ I'm speechless :banghead:

So boring, tepid, lacklustre, one dimensional football with no tactics and fixed substitutions under Wenger

Or

Potentially interesting, multidimensional attacking football, with variation and tactical astuteness under just about any other Manager

And Keown thinks they wouldn't want that :?
Who gives a flying fuck what Keown thinks, he has his head so far up Wenger's A$$ I'm surprised he can breathe. He is the biggest Wenger apologist out there and he DOES NOT have an inside track as to what is going on inside the club. It's exactly as it says... he THINKS, he THINKS, he doesn't know. As far as I'm concerned he can fuck off as well, tired of his a$$ licking.

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The protest today was embarrassing and I'm glad it was sh/t. I know many of you are angry, but can't you wait till there's nothing to play for first? Champions league next season is still a really big deal despite what some of you say. We almost never won today because of all this crap going on in the stands, which isn't what we need approaching city away! Protest once it's wrapped up FFS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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I think people may be underestimating the protest, somewhat.

Let's be honest, we were never going to have 60,000 people baying for his blood today. If that were the case, then he would have been hounded out long ago.

But for our online murmurings to finally assume an actual, physical presence, is a big step IMO. Ever since people began turning on him, Wenger has been trying his best to sweep them under the carpet and pretend that they don't exist. Thus, for fans to carry out a planned protest - at the stadium he was responsible for - calling for him to fuck off, live on TV in front of the world, would have dealt a huge blow to his ego.

Even though Sky weren't moderately bothered, you could tell by Wenger's body language that he was on edge all day long. And the knock-on effect is that people will now feel more at liberty to protest inside the stadium, whereas before it was a complete taboo.

If you look at the entire day as a whole - the staged protests against the manager, a civil war in the stands, jeering at the manager's decision to keep on Giroud, Giroud's taunting of the fans, Sanchez's storming off, and us struggling to beat a relegation certainty - it's pretty fucking clear to anyone with half a clue that this is a club in absolute turmoil. Anyone who disagrees is totally in denial.

Worsening matters (or improving them), I'd guess that Ozil, Sanchez, Walcott and Giroud will all be out the door in the summer. All for different reasons, but that will spell it out pretty clearly and force change, one way or another.
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CloakedGooner wrote:The protest today was embarrassing and I'm glad it was sh/t. I know many of you are angry, but can't you wait till there's nothing to play for first? Champions league next season is still a really big deal despite what some of you say. We almost never won today because of all this crap going on in the stands, which isn't what we need approaching city away! Protest once it's wrapped up FFS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Hahah. You sound like Wenger - blaming the fans for the crap performance against a team who will be relegated.

Sure - we can only protest during the summer and only then between 5-6 PM on Wednesdays.

The thing is that from where I am looking, we are out of all competitions, so technically, there isn't much to play for.

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CloakedGooner wrote:The protest today was embarrassing and I'm glad it was sh/t. I know many of you are angry, but can't you wait till there's nothing to play for first? Champions league next season is still a really big deal despite what some of you say. We almost never won today because of all this crap going on in the stands, which isn't what we need approaching city away! Protest once it's wrapped up FFS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
It is the fact that all we have to play for is the virtual success of another Champions League place that has fans frustrated..The comfort zone of fourth is killing this club, has been for years..
To suggest that Arsenal almost didn't win today because of protests is music to Wenger's ears (if he is reading this) . It is quite clear from his mutterings recently that Wenger cares fuck all about fans opinions. So he is contradicting himself by trying to blame fans for the poor home form..

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begeegs wrote:The thing is that from where I am looking, we are out of all competitions, so technically, there isn't much to play for.
Don't tell Sky that. Not sure if you watched the post-match, but they were talking up the 'race for fourth' as if it were more important than the PL title itself. And completely ignoring that our game was originally selected for tonight as part of its 'race for the title' coverage.

Sherwood and Redknapp agreed that we should make it to the fourth spot, but neither questioned whether or not that should even be under threat, considering that people were talking us up for the title a month ago.

Again, fourth being treated like a trophy, and it's pathetic. Redknapp even talked about the prospect of us overtaking Spuds, as if that would make for a good season. Tosser.

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Don't have a problem with you guys protesting. If we have it wrapped up by the villa game then protest away! Or even after the game if we secure it by beating villa. I'm just saying we'd be as well getting champions league football than not, and I just don't want us missing out on it right at the end. The team were distracted today and played absolute gash, no one can argue against that :(

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CloakedGooner wrote:Don't have a problem with you guys protesting. If we have it wrapped up by the villa game then protest away! Or even after the game if we secure it by beating villa. I'm just saying we'd be as well getting champions league football than not, and I just don't want us missing out on it right at the end. The team were distracted today and played absolute gash, no one can argue against that :(
Errr in case you haven't noticed the team have been playing absolute gash since Christmas. If you think today's demo is responsible for all our woes you're as deluded as the fraudulent fuckwit masquerading as our "manager".

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CloakedGooner wrote:The protest today was embarrassing and I'm glad it was sh/t. I know many of you are angry, but can't you wait till there's nothing to play for first? Champions league next season is still a really big deal despite what some of you say. We almost never won today because of all this crap going on in the stands, which isn't what we need approaching city away! Protest once it's wrapped up FFS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Are you high?

We "almost never won today" because we couldn't muster a single shot on target in the first half, at home, against a side who themselves have been fucked three-nil at home by fellow relegation strugglers Sunderland.

As for the Champions League; who gives a fuck about a competition we'll never, ever win with this has-been in charge?

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VoiceOfReason wrote:I think people may be underestimating the protest, somewhat.

you could tell by Wenger's body language that he was on edge all day long. And the knock-on effect is that people will now feel more at liberty to protest inside the stadium, whereas before it was a complete taboo.

If you look at the entire day as a whole - the staged protests against the manager, a civil war in the stands, jeering at the manager's decision to keep on Giroud, Giroud's taunting of the fans, Sanchez's storming off, and us struggling to beat a relegation certainty - it's pretty fucking clear to anyone with half a clue that this is a club in absolute turmoil. Anyone who disagrees is totally in denial.
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Interesting points. I did notice that Wenger looked as if he just wanted to sit down and not go anywhere near the touchline (although, what's new) and when he was there he genuinely looked under pressure.

Today was not a good day for Arsenal FC for a number of reasons and it is bound to have a ripple effect. I think Sanchez and Ozil are gone. It's evident that they don't want to be here or at least don't want to play for Wenger anymore. Sanchez' walk down the tunnel was evidence enough but I genuinely feel as well that Ozil tried to get sent off for that walk away from the ref shit then right after he made a silly foul in which I thought he was going to walk for. I get the impression the team is broken, the dressing room is certainly lost, whether for Wenger or just each other.

Seeing the fans fighting in the stadium, the pictures of the fans (which there were a good few) holding up signs declaring Wenger to leave and highlighting that it's time for a change and the fact the star players look anything but happy to be here looks badly on Arsenal and that is something the board have no choice but to take into consideration. It's gone beyond mere murmuring now. Civil war unfolded live on Sky at the Emirates because of one man, that alone cannot be ignored.

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CloakedGooner wrote:Don't have a problem with you guys protesting. If we have it wrapped up by the villa game then protest away! Or even after the game if we secure it by beating villa. I'm just saying we'd be as well getting champions league football than not, and I just don't want us missing out on it right at the end. The team were distracted today and played absolute gash, no one can argue against that :(
You're right, we were gash today, and for the previous 300 or so games, in case you hadn't noticed.
Yeah, yeah, I know, it was all the fans fault for all of those games too, and not the cretins who were played out of position, or without being coached correctly, or by being injured constantly, and absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the £8 million pound a year guy in the silly coat on the sideline with his head up his arse.
You're right too that we should protest after the Villa game - perhaps in our front rooms a couple weeks after the game - when it would have as little effect as possible on our mighty warrior players - they of the mental purity and mental strength - and of course our glorious and deeply hurt coach.
You are also right about the importance of qualifying for the oh so important 'Shampions' League, where we have as much chance of getting past the last 16 as I do of sinking the pink in Monica Bellucci, and hey, no one can argue against that.

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