THE WENGER THREAD

[xisstential]

A post from an online forum, this is what we are dealing with......

I was at the match yesterday with my son who held his banner up at the end of the match. It was his way of having a quiet protest , within the law and not hurting anybody. I like Wenger and out of respect for what he has done for the club didn`t want to have a banner. All of a sudden a couple of aggressive yobbos started ranting and raving about my son holding his bit of paper up. Luckily I was there but was pleased that other Gooners also came to our defense and told these people that it is everybody's right to say what they want and that we do not live in North Korea. Everybody needs to get a sense of perspective , of course it is frustrating after doing so well but only one club can win the Premiership or FA cup . I`m lucky and maybe because I am older andI have seen some success so am not so steamed up. Just remember everybody is entitled to an opinion and just because you do not aggree doesn`t mean you are right.

[Wilson]

Its incomprehensible so many think it cant get better than this.

[supergeorgegraham]

It was the biggest non event of the season. It's obvious that many more fans at the stadium were backing Wenger. I guess they no longer see Arsenal as potential champions any more. For me personally this season has been boring and the team does nothing to inspire.
Leicester deserve their title and it's great for football that money has finally been beaten if only for this season.

[scotgooner]

A post from an online forum, this is what we are dealing with......

I was at the match yesterday with my son who held his banner up at the end of the match. It was his way of having a quiet protest , within the law and not hurting anybody. I like Wenger and out of respect for what he has done for the club didn`t want to have a banner. All of a sudden a couple of aggressive yobbos started ranting and raving about my son holding his bit of paper up. Luckily I was there but was pleased that other Gooners also came to our defense and told these people that it is everybody's right to say what they want
and that we do not live in North Korea. Everybody needs to get a sense of perspective , of course it is frustrating after doing so well but only one club can win the Premiership or FA cup . I`m lucky and maybe because I am older andI have seen some success so am not so steamed up. Just remember everybody is entitled to an opinion and just because you do not aggree doesn`t mean you are right.

If someone tried to give me shit or take my poster/banner from me I would be fucking knocking them clean out. And that includes a Steward. Hopefully then I'd get kicked out and wouldn't have to watch that disaster of a football team.

I'm genuinely surprised there isn't more fighting in that stadium with some of the AKB mongs that go and proper Gooners who want him gone.

[northbank123]

A post from an online forum, this is what we are dealing with......

I was at the match yesterday with my son who held his banner up at the end of the match. It was his way of having a quiet protest , within the law and not hurting anybody. I like Wenger and out of respect for what he has done for the club didn`t want to have a banner. All of a sudden a couple of aggressive yobbos started ranting and raving about my son holding his bit of paper up. Luckily I was there but was pleased that other Gooners also came to our defense and told these people that it is everybody's right to say what they want and that we do not live in North Korea. Everybody needs to get a sense of perspective , of course it is frustrating after doing so well but only one club can win the Premiership or FA cup . I`m lucky and maybe because I am older andI have seen some success so am not so steamed up. Just remember everybody is entitled to an opinion and just because you do not aggree doesn`t mean you are right.

When exactly did it become unacceptable to have a negative opinion of the manager? Fans of years gone by certainly didn't mind expressing strong opinions from the terraces when we were playing shit football, finishing well off the leaders. Fans of every single other club up and down the country do it. This perverse notion that we are helping the club and showing class by agreeing with everything our manager says is sickening.

The manager has become so much bigger than the club for many of our fans now. They think the sun would fall out of the sky if he wasn't in charge any more.

We are a fucking laughing stock.

[BFG4]

Yesterday showed how embarrassing our fan-base is. Wenger openly insults the fans, and yet the majority in the ground still back him. I was sceptical as to whether any form of protest would make a difference, and now it's clear, it won't. Despite every disrespectful thing that Wenger has done this season, despite not challenging for the title again, the majority of fans still back him also, a special mention for sky, who proved what a bunch of wankers they are. They tried to belittle the protest as much as they could, and yet they will happily slag off the club, when it suits them.

[northbank123]

Yesterday showed how embarrassing our fan-base is. Wenger openly insults the fans, and yet the majority in the ground still back him. I was sceptical as to whether any form of protest would make a difference, and now it's clear, it won't. Despite every disrespectful thing that Wenger has done this season, despite not challenging for the title again, the majority of fans still back him also, a special mention for sky, who proved what a bunch of wankers they are. They tried to belittle the protest as much as they could, and yet they will happily slag off the club, when it suits them.

Wenger told everybody he built the club recently - it's quite obvious a lot of our fans believe it.

[xisstential]

You're gonna love this .... Wenger described the protest as "disappointed love"

And this is even better, a reply to somebody having the temerity to question Wenger......

Two FA cups, consistent champions league, and when you look at the table, were two points behind second place, and three wins away from top. Makes me sick the amount of stick Wenger gets. So much for a demo against Arsene. Pathetic attempt made by an idiot with a big banner. Come on Arsenal, Come on Arsene. 45 years a gooner!



It's quite frightening that people can be so stupid. We only have TWO games left and even if we didn't we would need another 15 to pick up the 3 wins. And everybody around us would have to lose ALL their games, but lets not get involved in those types of semantics. I called him on it, he told me to "Bog off"

[scotgooner]

Yesterday showed how embarrassing our fan-base is. Wenger openly insults the fans, and yet the majority in the ground still back him. I was sceptical as to whether any form of protest would make a difference, and now it's clear, it won't. Despite every disrespectful thing that Wenger has done this season, despite not challenging for the title again, the majority of fans still back him also, a special mention for sky, who proved what a bunch of wankers they are. They tried to belittle the protest as much as they could, and yet they will happily slag off the club, when it suits them.

Sky are fucking creatures.

[Wilson]

It was the biggest non event of the season. It's obvious that many more fans at the stadium were backing Wenger. I guess they no longer see Arsenal as potential champions any more. For me personally this season has been boring and the team does nothing to inspire.
Leicester deserve their title and it's great for football that money has finally been beaten if only for this season.

That is the danger I worry about. I worry Wenger and the board have permanently lowered expectation to simply qualifying for the CL. It reveals itself when pundits and fans say things like 'its Barcelona, what did you expect'. As if losing is cast in stone, and expecting to win is as feasible as a man falling pregnant.

Pundits and some fans also say 'Arsenal fans shouldn't expect to win the league'. But then the league title is something that has typically revolved around Chelsea, Man United and Man City - why is it beyond reason to join that group and be part of the group of clubs that share the trophy? They make us sound like spoilt demanding brats, for 'expecting to win the league'. Yeah, how dare the highest ticket payers supporting a club with enormous capabilities have expectation of success.

The willingness of fans and pundits to accept Arsenal shouldnt expect success, confirms Wenger has lowered the ambitions of this club. And what we have now, is a split. We have fans who have had enough and said, 'hang on, why shouldnt we expect to win the league'. Whilst the others have been conditioned and brainwashed by Wenger, to believe Arsenal are not a great club worthy of winning, and we should be thankful for his presence, as without him, we would fall out of the top 4 and become a permanent mid table team - these are the fans and pundits who keep saying 'be careful what you wish for'.

[xisstential]

It was the biggest non event of the season. It's obvious that many more fans at the stadium were backing Wenger. I guess they no longer see Arsenal as potential champions any more. For me personally this season has been boring and the team does nothing to inspire.
Leicester deserve their title and it's great for football that money has finally been beaten if only for this season.

And then when they troop off at half time everybody is unified in their booing??? It's incomprehensible!!!

[xisstential]

I know this is almost sacrilege and we sometimes say things in anger that we don't mean but I hope next year is an absolute catastrophic failure in every competition from start to finish. I don't care what has to happen to get rid of him. Whatever it takes. ANYTHING... barring relegation. And I hope both Sanchez & Ozil leave, they deserve better.

[casgooner]

It was the biggest non event of the season. It's obvious that many more fans at the stadium were backing Wenger. I guess they no longer see Arsenal as potential champions any more. For me personally this season has been boring and the team does nothing to inspire.
Leicester deserve their title and it's great for football that money has finally been beaten if only for this season.

That is the danger I worry about. I worry Wenger and the board have permanently lowered expectation to simply qualifying for the CL. It reveals itself when pundits and fans say things like 'its Barcelona, what did you expect'. As if losing is cast in stone, and expecting to win is as feasible as a man falling pregnant.

Pundits and some fans also say 'Arsenal fans shouldn't expect to win the league'. But then the league title is something that has typically revolved around Chelsea, Man United and Man City - why is it beyond reason to join that group and be part of the group of clubs that share the trophy? They make us sound like spoilt demanding brats, for 'expecting to win the league'. Yeah, how dare the highest ticket payers supporting a club with enormous capabilities have expectation of success.

The willingness of fans and pundits to accept Arsenal shouldnt expect success, confirms Wenger has lowered the ambitions of this club. And what we have now, is a split. We have fans who have had enough and said, 'hang on, why shouldnt we expect to win the league'. Whilst the others have been conditioned and brainwashed by Wenger, to believe Arsenal are not a great club worthy of winning, and we should be thankful for his presence, as without him, we would fall out of the top 4 and become a permanent mid table team - these are the fans and pundits who keep saying 'be careful what you wish for'.

For me, it's not necessarily about winning the league, but at least still being in with a chance well into March, giving it our all and leaving everything on every pitch we play on. How anyone can watch the way we've played since Christmas and say 'every player tries his best' is beyond me, clearly we don't! And if they are trying their best every match, then clearly they are not good enough and don't have what it takes to seriously challenge for a title. Most Arsenal fans don't think they have a god-given right to win everything, but surely we should be in a position to challenge with the stadium, the money etc.

[OneBardGooner]

Yesterday showed how embarrassing our fan-base is. Wenger openly insults the fans, and yet the majority in the ground still back him. I was sceptical as to whether any form of protest would make a difference, and now it's clear, it won't. Despite every disrespectful thing that Wenger has done this season, despite not challenging for the title again, the majority of fans still back him also, a special mention for sky, who proved what a bunch of wankers they are. They tried to belittle the protest as much as they could, and yet they will happily slag off the club, when it suits them.

That 'Fact' alone tells me beyond all doubt that we are right they are Utterly Wrong - Unconscious, braindead fools who have never had an original thought or idea in their lives...worse than sheep... SCUM.

[augie]

Its incomprehensible so many think it cant get better than this.

Personally I find it incomprehensible that so many fans are happy even if it gets no better than this

If last weeks failed walkout was a disappointment, then yesterday's protest was like a major, major kick in the bollox Personally I do not agree that yesterday proved that most of those present support wenger - there were far more fans holding up protest placards and banners, than there was signing to1aw and holding pro wenger banners. For me what yesterday proved was that most fans don't have the stomach for all this upheaval - the vast, vast majority of the crowd sat there yesterday and watched the events unfold in front of them without getting involved either way. I believe (rightly or wrongly) that the majority of these fans know that it is time for a change, but they don't want to get involved in forcing the issue.
Why are the akb allowed to suggest that a lack of numbers involved in the protest show that there is only a small percentage looking for change, when an even smaller amount of fans showed their objection to the protest ? Couldn't it be just as easily argued that the small number of people defending wenger during the protest, shows how little support he now has in the fanbase ?

Anyway I am getting sidetracked defending a protest that was a massive failure in my eyes - I have said for a while now that the time is fast approaching for me to turn my back and walk away from this club, and yesterday has pushed me a lot closer to that happening. When me and others like me do walk away, then those passive fans can sit in the shit that they helped create by their non actions. The club can then continue building their tourist fanbase and install a photo stall inside the ground where the fans can buy photo's of themselves during the game, in much the same way as people can do in alton towers, Disney world etc - it's all about the experience dude