THE WENGER THREAD

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Wilson
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Chelsea, United and City will not accept their current plight - they will improve. Tottenham will not 'fall into line', they will keep going. Liverpool will improve, as can Everton, and Leicester City are worthy of seriousness.

There are 7 other teams who will genuinely believe they should be in the top 4 next season as a minimum. Its going to be a shit fight for positions at the top next season.

And I wonder, how strong is Arsene to cope with the big personalities of Jose, Klopp, Guardiola, and the laid back in control approach of Pochettino, and Ranieiri?

The french fool will sit in idle, with a blind delusion he is in control. And next season you wait - we will drown in a league abound in competition, intensity, and quality.

Wenger has always survived because he has rarely been challenged, people talk about how he 'kept us in the top 4'. What, fending off Martin Jol's Tottenham, Or Martin Oneill's Aston Villa.

Im telling you know, he will be eaten alive next season. He wont be able to cope with the intensity and pressure.

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Wilson wrote:Chelsea, United and City will not accept their current plight - they will improve. Tottenham will not 'fall into line', they will keep going. Liverpool will improve, as can Everton, and Leicester City are worthy of seriousness.

There are 7 other teams who will genuinely believe they should be in the top 4 next season as a minimum. Its going to be a shit fight for positions at the top next season.

And I wonder, how strong is Arsene to cope with the big personalities of Jose, Klopp, Guardiola, and the laid back in control approach of Pochettino, and Ranieiri?

The french fool will sit in idle, with a blind delusion he is in control. And next season you wait - we will drown in a league abound in competition, intensity, and quality.

Wenger has always survived because he has rarely been challenged, people talk about how he 'kept us in the top 4'. What, fending off Martin Jol's Tottenham, Or Martin Oneill's Aston Villa.

Im telling you know, he will be eaten alive next season. He wont be able to cope with the intensity and pressure.

He is doing well meeting all his targets that is top 4 finish set by Stan at start of the season

AND the feedback from customers at the Emirates is also positive as below......

Lord Wengers words

They showed that they appreciate what I`ve done until now, so it`s alright".

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Wilson wrote:Chelsea, United and City will not accept their current plight - they will improve. Tottenham will not 'fall into line', they will keep going. Liverpool will improve, as can Everton, and Leicester City are worthy of seriousness.

There are 7 other teams who will genuinely believe they should be in the top 4 next season as a minimum. Its going to be a shit fight for positions at the top next season.

And I wonder, how strong is Arsene to cope with the big personalities of Jose, Klopp, Guardiola, and the laid back in control approach of Pochettino, and Ranieiri?

The french fool will sit in idle, with a blind delusion he is in control. And next season you wait - we will drown in a league abound in competition, intensity, and quality.

Wenger has always survived because he has rarely been challenged, people talk about how he 'kept us in the top 4'. What, fending off Martin Jol's Tottenham, Or Martin Oneill's Aston Villa.

Im telling you know, he will be eaten alive next season. He wont be able to cope with the intensity and pressure.
Spot on mate, said the same thing 3 or 4 times over the past few weeks.

Spurs will be competitive (without really challenging), City will be back up there, as will Chelsea. United & Liverpool will continue to improve and then there are half a dozen other managers who have Wengers number, who know exactly how to counter his predictable style.

Everybody is telling him to strengthen, so he won't, even if he does he doesn't know how to get the best out of players so it won't have any real affect. I don't think we'll even be "challenging" next season, I think we will be scrapping between 8th & 4th the entire season......

What will he say...... "The fans have been spoilt after the last decade so they have come to expect :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:"

The roof is going to come crashing down on his head next season.... I cannot wait.

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I'm a bit sceptical of comparing us to Leicester by way of criticism.

What Leicester have done is utterly astounding whereas what we are asking for is regular title challenges commensurate to our stature and resources (and to a lesser extent ability).

Detractors will just brush off any reference to Leicester with it being a 5000-1 shot and something like that will never happen again.

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northbank123 wrote:I'm a bit sceptical of comparing us to Leicester by way of criticism.

What Leicester have done is utterly astounding whereas what we are asking for is regular title challenges commensurate to our stature and resources (and to a lesser extent ability).

Detractors will just brush off any reference to Leicester with it being a 5000-1 shot and something like that will never happen again.
Still doesn't sweep away the other 12 years of failure, the 4 or 5 seasons of totalling bottling it, then moving the goalposts in March so that 4th place could seem like a major achievement. Whichever way you cut it, the man has been found out.... he is a charlatan, a fraud, a liar who is totally without shame, beyond reproach or reason.

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xisstential wrote:
northbank123 wrote:I'm a bit sceptical of comparing us to Leicester by way of criticism.

What Leicester have done is utterly astounding whereas what we are asking for is regular title challenges commensurate to our stature and resources (and to a lesser extent ability).

Detractors will just brush off any reference to Leicester with it being a 5000-1 shot and something like that will never happen again.
Still doesn't sweep away the other 12 years of failure, the 4 or 5 seasons of totalling bottling it, then moving the goalposts in March so that 4th place could seem like a major achievement. Whichever way you cut it, the man has been found out.... he is a charlatan, a fraud, a liar who is totally without shame, beyond reproach or reason.
Exactly - so whilst this season has probably been the worst then let's not give anybody the excuse that we are throwing our toys out the pram because we couldn't finish above an excellent Leicester team - see Oliver Holt's response to the protest for the sort of dickhead reaction that will attract.

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xisstential wrote:
northbank123 wrote:I'm a bit sceptical of comparing us to Leicester by way of criticism.

What Leicester have done is utterly astounding whereas what we are asking for is regular title challenges commensurate to our stature and resources (and to a lesser extent ability).

Detractors will just brush off any reference to Leicester with it being a 5000-1 shot and something like that will never happen again.
Still doesn't sweep away the other 12 years of failure, the 4 or 5 seasons of totalling bottling it, then moving the goalposts in March so that 4th place could seem like a major achievement. Whichever way you cut it, the man has been found out.... he is a charlatan, a fraud, a liar who is totally without shame, beyond reproach or reason.

trouble is mate he don't give a flying fuck what you say, he does not want you lot at the Emirates...he believes and his fans at the emirates also that he is doing well
a few protestors won't even be noticed, indeed ridiculed in the media

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He's done for now. His only realistic chance in the last 12 years and probably the next however long to somehow fall over the finishing line first has vanished. He's never going to get an easier shot at it than the last 12 months. We were title favourites last summer, title favourites at Christmas and in January and still most experts' favourites even up to mid-February but still his side couldn't do it. It goes without saying that the competition will get real again come July and August and faced with the prospect of joining Pep at City or probably Jose at Man Utd, I truly don't think anyone worth their salt with chose Wanker. Fair enough, Man Utd might not be in the Chumps League, but with Mourinho, force of personality is a big enough draw- players will look at the club and think that it's worth going there even without a year of European top-level football because there will be faith that success will come soon. Wanker wasted his chance, wasted his opportunity to get the players in that would have won the league, convinced other top names that we mean business and given us an edge over the others. There is no way in the world that he can compete tactically with Pep, Maureen or even Klopp next season. They will bring energy and excitement to their clubs and get things moving, Arsenal under Wanker, on the other hand, just look boring, stale and un-competitive. I've seen the usual AKB nonsense for a week or two now, that he's seen the light, knows what to do and will answer the critics, but that's not going to happen and even if the biggest names in the world came, he isn't a good enough manager, motivator, trainer, tactician or leader to get the best out of them. For years, he moaned about not being able to compete financially, now, he can't compete tactically.

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A lot of this softening towards Wenger in the media, ex players is down to the acceptance that Wenger will step aside/down next summer and because of his record early in his Arsenal reign he should allowed to run down his contract.
Who believes he will? I see no indication he is ready to hand over power to anyone.
If the club know it his final season where is the forward planning for a smooth transition?

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foxinthebox2001 wrote:A lot of this softening towards Wenger in the media, ex players is down to the acceptance that Wenger will step aside/down next summer and because of his record early in his Arsenal reign he should allowed to run down his contract.
Who believes he will? I see no indication he is ready to hand over power to anyone.
If the club know it his final season where is the forward planning for a smooth transition?
My money is on him extending tbh. :( :x

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Koeman 8/1 to be our next manager,his contact at Southampton apparently ends same time as wengers .

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mcdowell42 wrote:Koeman 8/1 to be our next manager,his contact at Southampton apparently ends same time as wengers .
Even if that was Ivan Koeman, manager of "Nowhereski FC" in the Azerbaijan 3rd Division, I'd take him right now tbh. :barscarf:

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I'm very pissed off at the mo (as you can imagine) and am not really in the mood to discuss AFC or wenker, but let me say this before I stop........the chavs will NOT be back at the top again next season unless they spend major, major money next season - I watched them last night, and granted it was a great comeback, but overall they looked an absolute shambles :o
Their centre backs are not good enough, mikel is shit, matic's attitude is nothing short of a disgrace and he seems to have totally switched off, the Spanish left full (cant be bothered to research spelling of his name) is brainless and ivanovic also seems to have lost interest or is past it :roll: Conte is supposed to be a fierce manager, and given the work he has ahead of him there, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see another player rebellion there when he tries to awaken the interest and bomb out some of their players

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DB10GOONER wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Koeman 8/1 to be our next manager,his contact at Southampton apparently ends same time as wengers .
Even if that was Ivan Koeman, manager of "Nowhereski FC" in the Azerbaijan 3rd Division, I'd take him right now tbh. :barscarf:
We'd be organized, which would be a change. Can he make a step up to manage a club like Arsenal? His career has been a mixed bag with successes at clubs with little competition (Ajax, PSV), but not great at other clubs - Valencia, Benfica. I have my doubts.

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It's the last year of his contract, can't he go on a bosman :rubchin: :| :wink:

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