As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Well done Leicester stopped that lot from up the road winning it so at least we have been spared the media going on about it especially with the Euro's on.Of course this goes down as another entry in the ongoing saga of seasons we have fucked up under this regime.
No doubt OGL will mention when questioned before the Man City game we beat the champions twice.....almost as predictable as our annual post Xmas implosions
SteveO 35 wrote:Atletico into the CL final too - what a great end to the season it would be having Leicester as PL Champions and Atletico as CL winners.
Absolutely brilliant watching games like last night's and tonights (and most of ath madrids games tbh) - games with passion and intensity like these are an absolute pleasure to watch, and remind me what it is about football that enthralled me so much as a kid
Simeone's teams play with a basic simplicity and I love watching it - no bullshit about tika taka, diamond formations, false 9 or any other bullshit like that. Their attitude is if you want to beat us then you are gonna have to come and fight us for every single ball. They tell opposition teams that they are gonna have to be outstanding if they are gonna score against them, cos the ath Madrid players will literally lay down their lives to defend and make it impossible to get through them
SteveO 35 wrote:Atletico into the CL final too - what a great end to the season it would be having Leicester as PL Champions and Atletico as CL winners.
Absolutely brilliant watching games like last night's and tonights (and most of ath madrids games tbh) - games with passion and intensity like these are an absolute pleasure to watch, and remind me what it is about football that enthralled me so much as a kid
Simeone's teams play with a basic simplicity and I love watching it - no bullshit about tika taka, diamond formations, false 9 or any other bullshit like that. Their attitude is if you want to beat us then you are gonna have to come and fight us for every single ball. They tell opposition teams that they are gonna have to be outstanding if they are gonna score against them, cos the ath Madrid players will literally lay down their lives to defend and make it impossible to get through them
Kudo's to Simeone
100% agree - and unlike our bunch of bottle jobs utterly unfazed by reputation as has been proven by slugging it out with the Big 2 in Spain and night's like tonight. When we beat Bayern earlier in the season, I knew beyond any shadow of doubt that they would come after us big time in the return and didn't even bother watching it (and still haven't to this day) as I knew our limpdicked pansies would fold like a deck of cards
Compare that to Atletico - winners from the first leg, go a goal down in the first half and then fight tooth and nail and gradually wear Bayern down. Fantastic effort and so much to admire that is lacking from our bunch of overpaid flimsy wankers
Glad we didn't get Vidal what an absolute classless twat
"Today ugly football - Atletico - played against the best football in the world. The only time they saw the ball was for the goal,"
"They are going to be dreaming about us right up to the final. They did not have the ball, they took on the best team in the world, they took their chances and got to the final.
"The best does not always win in football, like today. They are not deserved finalists."
It's not that the best teams don't always win mate, it's just that there are different ways of kicking a ball around. What team mentality in Atletico, haven't seen such a thing for years. Oh yeah, and I'm sure they'll be dreaming about Bayern and wiping their tears with their boarding passes to Milan. After eliminating both Barca and Bayern over two matches nothing could be more deserved than a final WIN. Hope that Barca slips in La Liga as well.
Vidal behaved like a proper w*nker throughout the game last night - every time the ref gave a free for them, he was in the refs face looking for ath madrids players to be booked regardless of how harmless the foul was
Congratulations to Leicester, even taking into account how poor the big teams have been this season they still managed to keep going and not let the pressure get to them, unlike some.
Ranieri really is a class above Wenger in terms of management of not just his players and the club, but the fans and the media too.
As for Athletico really was a gutsy performance and shows what a team with lesser players but a whole lot of guts and determination and a good tactical plan can do against these 'beautiful' teams, Arturo Vidal is a gobby twat who says BM or Barca are the best team in the world anyway, think that's just been proved wrong.
I've never been totally convinced about the beautiful football thing because even when we were at our best occasionally lesser teams could shut us out by being disciplined, something which a lot more teams seem able to do these days.
SteveO 35 wrote:Atletico into the CL final too - what a great end to the season it would be having Leicester as PL Champions and Atletico as CL winners.
Absolutely brilliant watching games like last night's and tonights (and most of ath madrids games tbh) - games with passion and intensity like these are an absolute pleasure to watch, and remind me what it is about football that enthralled me so much as a kid
Simeone's teams play with a basic simplicity and I love watching it - no bullshit about tika taka, diamond formations, false 9 or any other bullshit like that. Their attitude is if you want to beat us then you are gonna have to come and fight us for every single ball. They tell opposition teams that they are gonna have to be outstanding if they are gonna score against them, cos the ath Madrid players will literally lay down their lives to defend and make it impossible to get through them
Kudo's to Simeone
Watching both games I realised how little football I watch now days. I've hardly seen any Chelsea games this season and only knew a couple of the Athletico players. I used to watch every game I could...not sure when I stopped tbh.
I thought it was because of my dislike for modern football...but I absolutely loved both games.
Maybe it's the Arsenal games that I'm bored of....I might just watch everyone else except us from now on. Someone let me know when he's gone!!
Congratulations to Leicester City. Premier League champions.
I'm especially happy for Ranieri. The Tinkerman was pilloried and derided by the gutter meeja in past years.
He has remained benevolent, witty, charming, honest and above all modest through this entire campaign, even to his piss taking detractors.
Something our Kim-Wenger-Jong-un would never imagine.
GranadaJoe wrote:Robert Huth and Wes Morgan; PL winning centre-back pairing.
Still can't get my head round that one.
I don't think they can either!
But tbh, it just goes to show what a pragmatic manager can achieve by designing his system and style of play around the players he actually has and thus utilising their strengths, rather than deciding on a system and then pig-headedly trying to wedge his players into that inflexible system, even though it is very obvious most of them can't play that system.
How often did we see Morgan or Huth trying to pass out of a crowded box? How often did we see the Leicester midfield do a limp Barca-Lite Tippy-Tappy impression with pretty little passing triangles that ultimately went nowhere? How often did we see them just lump the ball at Vardy's head so he could wrestle with two CH's 30 yards out from goal?
Wenger is such a snobby aesthete that he would never look at a CB like Huth (who has 3 PL medals btw) because he can't "play out from the back" and all that kind of stuff. Given that Huth is ex-Mourinho's Chelsea and ex-Stoke, he's everything that Wenger thinks is wrong about football.
While we can contrast what Leicester have done brilliantly with what Arsenal have done wrong, it's an idle discussion because Wenger will write Leicester off as a "freak" (listen out for his snidey backhanded remarks about them in his press conference) and won't learn any lessons from them.
He'd rather persist with Giroud's "reliable" 15 league goals a season, than take a chance on a lower-ranked player like Vardy, who might have a purple patch. Drinkwater's passing has been more sharper and direct than most Arsenal midfielders this season but Wenger would rather have one of his midfield artists (who can pass all day without going anywhere ), than give a chance to a "journeyman" like Drinkwater who looks to get the ball straight to a runner.