THE WENGER THREAD

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Re: THE WENGER THREAD

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May 2016:
It can affect the players, but the players are like me – they are professional.

‘We want to be committed. When you are a professional, you sign a contract, you never know. To be professional is to give your best as long as you have the contract
May 2017:
We didn't win the league because there were distractions about the contract issue
:roll:

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GoonerMuzz wrote:Anyone else sick of the whole pathetic saga of Arsene 'Le Prof' Wenger?

It's like some film that started out really exciting but then dragged on and on and actually the plot went nowhere but around in circles :rubchin:
Think it started out due to the FACT he spoke a few languages ( but so do a lot of holiday reps) and wore glasses -not your stereotypical English thick as pigshit manager who can barely write ( mentioning no Redknaps)
Throw in cutting out the beer and drinking water at room temperature and bingo, he is a certified ( should be anyway) genius and every piece of crap that leaves his lips is seen as some pearl of wisdom.

I'm still waiting for all these top clubs to go bankrupt as he predicted In his vain attempt to justify project youth.

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Offside wrote:May 2016:
It can affect the players, but the players are like me – they are professional.

We want to be committed. When you are a professional, you sign a contract, you never know. To be professional is to give your best as long as you have the contract
May 2017:
We didn't win the league because there were distractions about the contract issue
:roll:
Is the highlighted bit a veiled dig at his own players who are not in the mood to sign new contracts under him currently and are therefore not being 'professional'?

Maybe i'm reading too much into it but it just feels like a classic Wenger dig..... :rubchin:

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StuartL wrote:
GoonerMuzz wrote:Anyone else sick of the whole pathetic saga of Arsene 'Le Prof' Wenger?

It's like some film that started out really exciting but then dragged on and on and actually the plot went nowhere but around in circles :rubchin:
Think it started out due to the FACT he spoke a few languages ( but so do a lot of holiday reps) and wore glasses -not your stereotypical English thick as pigshit manager who can barely write ( mentioning no Redknaps)
Throw in cutting out the beer and drinking water at room temperature and bingo, he is a certified ( should be anyway) genius and every piece of crap that leaves his lips is seen as some pearl of wisdom.

I'm still waiting for all these top clubs to go bankrupt as he predicted In his vain attempt to justify project youth.
Pretty much spot on there.

And while we're still waiting for the top clubs to go bust, I'm also still waiting for Anderlecht to get to the CL final. Didnt Wenger say after we lost a 3-0 lead at home against them that ''people do not realise how good this Anderlecht team are'' :roll:

Of all the languages Wenger speaks, the one he is most fluent in is Gibberish.

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Clash wrote:
StuartL wrote:
GoonerMuzz wrote:Anyone else sick of the whole pathetic saga of Arsene 'Le Prof' Wenger?

It's like some film that started out really exciting but then dragged on and on and actually the plot went nowhere but around in circles :rubchin:
Think it started out due to the FACT he spoke a few languages ( but so do a lot of holiday reps) and wore glasses -not your stereotypical English thick as pigshit manager who can barely write ( mentioning no Redknaps)
Throw in cutting out the beer and drinking water at room temperature and bingo, he is a certified ( should be anyway) genius and every piece of crap that leaves his lips is seen as some pearl of wisdom.

I'm still waiting for all these top clubs to go bankrupt as he predicted In his vain attempt to justify project youth.
Pretty much spot on there.

And while we're still waiting for the top clubs to go bust, I'm also still waiting for Anderlecht to get to the CL final. Didnt Wenger say after we lost a 3-0 lead at home against them that ''people do not realise how good this Anderlecht team are'' :roll:

Of all the languages Wenger speaks, the one he is most fluent in is Gibberish.

And crap speak

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Well our ladies have just won the FA cup so at least Wenger has won something this season.

I'm assuming he had a hand in their victory?? Even if it was that he only said they could win it, you have to give him credit for that :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Offside wrote:May 2016:
It can affect the players, but the players are like me – they are professional.

‘We want to be committed. When you are a professional, you sign a contract, you never know. To be professional is to give your best as long as you have the contract
May 2017:
We didn't win the league because there were distractions about the contract issue
:roll:
No what he's saying there is if we are challenging come Dec/Jan and there is a whole lot of bickering regarding his contract, then the players might be affected......... and then we won't win the league.

It's a veiled threat, simple as that... trouble makers will cost us dear.

Me, me,me, I, I, I.... you have to remember, look, look, look, and on and on it goes.......

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xisstential wrote:
Offside wrote:May 2016:
It can affect the players, but the players are like me – they are professional.

‘We want to be committed. When you are a professional, you sign a contract, you never know. To be professional is to give your best as long as you have the contract
May 2017:
We didn't win the league because there were distractions about the contract issue
:roll:
No what he's saying there is if we are challenging come Dec/Jan and there is a whole lot of bickering regarding his contract, then the players might be affected......... and then we won't win the league.

It's a veiled threat, simple as that... trouble makers will cost us dear.

Me, me,me, I, I, I.... you have to remember, look, look, look, and on and on it goes.......
Quoted as saying he will talk about contracts next summer...sound ominous

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As sure as shite we will have a run of flat track bully matches next season where we will hand out a couple of turdholings..le bumhole will sign then.

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GoonerMuzz wrote:
Offside wrote:May 2016:
It can affect the players, but the players are like me – they are professional.

We want to be committed. When you are a professional, you sign a contract, you never know. To be professional is to give your best as long as you have the contract
May 2017:
We didn't win the league because there were distractions about the contract issue
:roll:
Is the highlighted bit a veiled dig at his own players who are not in the mood to sign new contracts under him currently and are therefore not being 'professional'?

Maybe i'm reading too much into it but it just feels like a classic Wenger dig..... :rubchin:
Well we all know that Wenger will lay the blame off on anyone, absolutely anyone - even the tea lady - Rather than Man Up grow a Pair and admit he is WRONG!


YOU SHOULD HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME WENGER - YOU FRAUDULENT CUN.T :cussing:

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Yep. The Old Fraud is going to do what he did in 2014. Sign with hours to go on his contract, which expires in 382 days.

Is there any point in a countdown if it's going to be a certain last day renewal? :banghead:

Then again, this is a great opportunity for protests to continue all though next season, so we can build momentum all the way though to make it clear that we don't want him to stay and hold us back for a further two years of purgatory.

DT has said he won't do any banners next season, so I hope that many others will do it and make that old bastard uncomfortable in the knowledge that a section of the fans will always know that he is a fraud and won't be placated with his lies and excuses after yet more predictable capitulations. Any dissent is a personal defeat to him and the issue will always be raised by the press, which is why the club are now engaging in Stasi tactics even at away games to quell the rebellion.

TOF still thinks he can win the PL and the Be All and End All with his bullshit failed 'philosophy' of sideways passes, rare shots and no defensive organisation. He is quite mad.

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Sean wrote:Yep. The Old Fraud is going to do what he did in 2014. Sign with hours to go on his contract, which expires in 382 days.

Is there any point in a countdown if it's going to be a certain last day renewal? :banghead:

Then again, this is a great opportunity for protests to continue all though next season, so we can build momentum all the way though to make it clear that we don't want him to stay and hold us back for a further two years of purgatory.

DT has said he won't do any banners next season, so I hope that many others will do it and make that old bastard uncomfortable in the knowledge that a section of the fans will always know that he is a fraud and won't be placated with his lies and excuses after yet more predictable capitulations. Any dissent is a personal defeat to him and the issue will always be raised by the press, which is why the club are now engaging in Stasi tactics even at away games to quell the rebellion.

TOF still thinks he can win the PL and the Be All and End All with his bullshit failed 'philosophy' of sideways passes, rare shots and no defensive organisation. He is quite mad.
We could continue the protest but the problem is that there aren't that many willing to join in. We basically get attacked by AKBs as soon as the banners go up. To do this for every game really is not fun.

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As time passes, the anger evaporates, and this is what Wenger relies on to stay in the job. I myself lighten up a bit, but it still doesnt change the fact Wenger has shown extreme levels of incompetence, and even negligence, and for me, its unforgivable.

Going into the season with Giroud and Walcott as the main strikers wasnt forced on Wenger - he chose those two. Going into the season with Flamini and Arteta are back up holding players wasnt forced on Wenger - he chose this. Supporting Walcott for 10 years was not because there was no one else, and Wenger could only make do - Wenger chose to keep Walcott for this long.

Judging Wenger rationally, without emotion or anger, the end result is all the same - he isnt good enough, and needs to be punished for his incompetence and negligence by losing his job. The likes of John Cross and other Wenger disciples think we are making judgement in the heat of the moment, and as time passes, we will all come to our senses and realise Arsene is brilliant. However, I think that sentiment wont change regardless of the anger passing. Which will be a more damming assessment of Wenger. I.e We have thought about it, and yes, we want Wenger out.

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Wilson wrote:As time passes, the anger evaporates, and this is what Wenger relies on to stay in the job. I myself lighten up a bit, but it still doesnt change the fact Wenger has shown extreme levels of incompetence, and even negligence, and for me, its unforgivable.

Going into the season with Giroud and Walcott as the main strikers wasnt forced on Wenger - he chose those two. Going into the season with Flamini and Arteta are back up holding players wasnt forced on Wenger - he chose this. Supporting Walcott for 10 years was not because there was no one else, and Wenger could only make do - Wenger chose to keep Walcott for this long.

Judging Wenger rationally, without emotion or anger, the end result is all the same - he isnt good enough, and needs to be punished for his incompetence and negligence by losing his job. The likes of John Cross and other Wenger disciples think we are making judgement in the heat of the moment, and as time passes, we will all come to our senses and realise Arsene is brilliant. However, I think that sentiment wont change regardless of the anger passing. Which will be a more damming assessment of Wenger. I.e We have thought about it, and yes, we want Wenger out.
This is the way I see it going from here. 2nd or 3rd finish by end of today and an agreement nodding feelgood flavour among the vast majority.

Fast Forward to next season..... nobody is going to the first game with a banner are they?? It will be let's wait & see and should we get off to a good start nobody will show up with banners as they will be ridiculed. Come Dec if we are first or 2nd Wenger will be "talked" into a new contract and he'll adopt an "Oh well if you really want me I'll take the 10m", albeit reluctantly, "because it's best for the club". The AKB's will now be in full voice mocking all those who called for him to leave.

Come Feb, wheels off, roof caves in, out of every comp again, battle for 4th begins in earnest, dissent grows, banners out, furious AKB's you're fairweather supporters, only support us when we're winning :blah: :blah: :blah: More of the careful what you wish for from the media. All too late as Wenger will be firmly entrenched again.

For those wanting him out the best scenario will be to get off to a poor start and be 12-15 points off the pace by Dec, early dissent making signing a new deal damn near impossible. I don't care if we are out of the running by Dec as we aren't going to win it anyway.It's wait & see.........but for now the anger will dissipate,attention will turn to the Euro's, we'll be linked with every class player on the planet, yet sign nobody of note. Giroud will prob continue because to replace him would be an admission of failure. He won't do that.

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I know what you mean xisstential. Wenger and the board are waiting for the right moment to pen the new contract. There is always a stage in our season when it looks like we are the real deal. We play brilliant football, and get some great results, then the players and Wenger stop to pat themselves on the back, and talk about how they proved the critics wrong. They do this before actually achieving anything. Its like raising your arms in the air when your in the lead 50m into the 100m sprint. Its downright stupid and embarrassing, but Wenger and the players cant help themselves.

Although he has gone on record and said a new deal will not be discussed until AFTER next season. So pressure needs to be applied so he stays true to that. If he can win the PL or CL next season, then he can sign a new deal no problems. But if he goes a 13th year without a major trophy - why assume he could in it in his 14th year, or 15th, or 16th?

Fuk sake, there no was reason to assume he could win it after 8 years, 9 years, 10 years 11 years. Now its the 12th year without a major trophy. Everyone just assume its will come eventually so they stck with Wenger. But they need to realise, its not going to happen.

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