As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
wilko49er wrote:Yes 1.2 million was an obscene offer, and nows it settled who knows what she got. But that is the business she is in, and money gets thrown around, as we know in the football world. So why not take the fuckers for what she could get, anyone else with half a brain would do the same. But the world is a fucked up place! hurt feelings in a high profile job gets you rich. Getting your legs blown of in afghan serving your country, gets you a life changing injury, Thanks, a shit pension/payout and a life of nothing but grief. That side of it really pisses me off.
absolutely spot on
This might sound very harsh, but I just cannot go along with the comparison to a soldier serving in Afghanistan - becoming a soldier (or any other type of military service) is a choice and that decision can lead to serving in warzones. National service is not compulsory in the uk or Ireland so these people don't have to sign up. If people dont understand or accept the risk of serving in wars, then dont f.ucking sign up cos it really is that simple - I have nothing but respect for those that are aware of the risks but still sign up anyway, but signing up to being a doctor does not mean that she should get verbally abused by a bullying portugese c.unt
nut flush gooner wrote:Eva Carneiro started her employment tribunal today, Chelsea offered £1.2m to settle out of court. They have labelled her a self publicist and she has alleged that Mourinho called her the "daughter of a whore" in Portugese. Lot's of other allegations about the way Chelsea treated her.
You would think in 2016, that women shouldn't have to put up with this sort of shit. As usual though, football is light years behind the real world.
Maureen is due to appear in the tribunal at some stage, will be interested to see how he tries to squirm out of this one.
WTF I've been called worse but didn't get offered 1.2 million, as usual it's all about the money, she'd have to work years for that, oh well let's use the women angle
Normally I would agree with you and it gets really tiresome and frustrating when people use the sexism or racism argument when it suits them, BUT lets be honest here and admit that moaninho probably wouldnt have spoken to a male physio like that cos he would have had his lights punched out for doing so. Lets also be honest and admit that most of us are subconsciously old fashioned in our views about women being involved in male soccer - I can only speak for myself and say that my interest in this case would be minimal if it was a male doctor that was suing the chavs and moaninho, and I certainly wouldnt have any interest in the case if she was some old dog that nobody would want to shag Straight away I am viewing this case as different because she is a (fit ) woman and I reckon there are thousands more like me even if they dont admit it.
Do you guys think that she could have walked into another top job in football if she had of just walked away from the chavs ? She would be viewed as weak and an easy target for every arrogant dickhead in the game, and in my opinion she had to sue to show that she will not accept being bullied by an arrogant c.unt like moaninho If the chavs as a club had anything about themselves then they would have dealt with this straight away by discipling moaninho, but instead they decided to stand by a manager that has history of being a bullying and causing trouble in every club he has been at.
Maybe I am blinded cos of a total hatred towards the chavs and moaninho, but I do think that she had to persue this. The most she can get for lack of earnings is 70k but of course she could then get a big payout for damages if she wins - that being said, is it likely that any payout will exceed £1.2m ? Personally I doubt it so I would lean on the side of saying that this isnt about the money, BUT at the same time I dont really care if it is cos she is perfectly right imo
Btw I really hope that she hasnt shagged hazard and/or ivanovic like the rumours have long suggested, cos the gloves will def come off now and she will get torn apart whether her husband is sitting beside her or not
I'm not going to pretend that what happened is fresh in my mind but I do remember him having a right go at the male physio at the same time because they both went onto the pitch at the same time.
nut flush gooner wrote:
LOL, you can't just make up a figure there are guidelines that the courts go by. For example unfair dismissal is capped at 1 years salary up to around £78k. This is a constructive dismissal case granted, and a bit more complicated, but to say she can determine the amount she sues for is nonsense. This is determined by law.
Yes agreed Court will decide final payout, but she refused a 1.2 million payout, as she insisted a 40% pay rise on her 285K salary as well....
Go back to you ivory towers mate in HR.....
Yep as I said I have heard much much worse and most people have to get on with it or leave their job and find another one, why does she have the right to probably never have to work again after a little spat.
Surely a years salary is more than enough
how do we know it was not deliberately instigated?
How the f.uck can you "instigate" going in to treat an injured player ? Thats just ridiculous
Augie of all the posters on here you really can't just totally disregard a conspiracy theory, you come up with them on a regular basis with ways in which to discredit wenger
Clash wrote:I think I prefer the Hibs physio to this Eva whatsname!
No doubt more down to earth and an Edinburgh accent on a woman does me every time. Unless they're really fat obviously
When hibs won the cup final it showed a clip of her singing "sunshine on leith" and the way she moved her tongue as she was singing certainly got my juices flowing
Was she hanging from the cross bar pitch singing this then
Redarmy wrote:
Yes agreed Court will decide final payout, but she refused a 1.2 million payout, as she insisted a 40% pay rise on her 285K salary as well....
Go back to you ivory towers mate in HR.....
Yep as I said I have heard much much worse and most people have to get on with it or leave their job and find another one, why does she have the right to probably never have to work again after a little spat.
Surely a years salary is more than enough
how do we know it was not deliberately instigated?
How the f.uck can you "instigate" going in to treat an injured player ? Thats just ridiculous
Augie of all the posters on here you really can't just totally disregard a conspiracy theory, you come up with them on a regular basis with ways in which to discredit wenger
yeah I'm due a conspiracy theory anyway...took me ages to come up with this one!
nut flush gooner wrote:So it's done. Settlement reached so we will never know exactly what happened.
One thing though Maureen turned up today 6 days before he was summoned. So it would appear he/chelski have apologised to her and possibly increased the compensation. Clearly carrying on with the tribunal would probably expose Chelsea and Maureen in a bad way. But we already know what a nasty club and nasty piece of work Maureen is.
Right last word on this one....
IF it was a matter of principal an apology would suffice, but will wait a long time for that one
She had a just grievance, but anything up to £5 million seems a tad excessive, but thats Chelsea money so not too bothered
There you go I'm done.....dont really give a fuck about any of them
nut flush gooner wrote:So it's done. Settlement reached so we will never know exactly what happened.
One thing though Maureen turned up today 6 days before he was summoned. So it would appear he/chelski have apologised to her and possibly increased the compensation. Clearly carrying on with the tribunal would probably expose Chelsea and Maureen in a bad way. But we already know what a nasty club and nasty piece of work Maureen is.
Right last word on this one....
IF it was a matter of principal an apology would suffice, but will wait a long time for that one
She had a just grievance, but anything up to £5 million seems a tad excessive, but thats Chelsea money so not too bothered
There you go I'm done.....dont really give a fuck about any of them
Unreal you talk bollocks for a day then you say you don't give a fuck about them, lmao.
As I said Chelsea backed down because they know her allegations where true, and would be damaging to the clubs reputation. She didn't take the case to tribunal purely for the money, it was because she had a genuine grievance. Where did you get the "up to £5m" settlement from the daily star?
nut flush gooner wrote:So it's done. Settlement reached so we will never know exactly what happened.
One thing though Maureen turned up today 6 days before he was summoned. So it would appear he/chelski have apologised to her and possibly increased the compensation. Clearly carrying on with the tribunal would probably expose Chelsea and Maureen in a bad way. But we already know what a nasty club and nasty piece of work Maureen is.
Right last word on this one....
IF it was a matter of principal an apology would suffice, but will wait a long time for that one
She had a just grievance, but anything up to £5 million seems a tad excessive, but thats Chelsea money so not too bothered
There you go I'm done.....dont really give a fuck about any of them
Unreal you talk bollocks for a day then you say you don't give a fuck about them, lmao.
As I said Chelsea backed down because they know her allegations where true, and would be damaging to the clubs reputation. She didn't take the case to tribunal purely for the money, it was because she had a genuine grievance. Where did you get the "up to £5m" settlement from the daily star?
Nut Flush you can't possibly know that she didn't take them to Tribunal for the money rather than settling.
She had already won massive public sympathy, Chelsea were desperate to make it go away and would undoubtedly have offered the same sort of apology that they ended up doing to settle it months ago and as it was none of these allegations will ever come out anyway.
Maybe it was some principled point (and without being in the inner circle we can't know) but no doubt she settled on better terms at Tribunal than she was offered previously. Tribunal claims are notorious for settling on the first morning because the employer realises just how time-consuming and potentially embarrassing it would be so they'll throw more money at it, that's what happened here and probably what she banked on.
Having seen my brother go through something similar years ago, I can tell you straight up, it's all about brinkmanship and bluffing. Both sides hold out as long as possible hoping the other side will crack first. By the time it reaches a tribunal the employer is usually the one that folds as going through the whole process can take away the confidentiality that an out of court settlement "on the steps" (as it's called in Oireland) can offer and can make them look very bad in the media. Most employers are far more concerned with bad publicity than most individuals would be. I was there with my brother as a witness and it was bizarre to see his lawyer scum go to their lawyer scum and "barter" the offered amount back and forth.
There is absolutely no way to know if the ex-chav doctor chick was standing up for her principles or if she is just a money hungry bastard. How could any one of you know that? Do any of you know her personally?
DB10GOONER wrote:Having seen my brother go through something similar years ago, I can tell you straight up, it's all about brinkmanship and bluffing. Both sides hold out as long as possible hoping the other side will crack first. By the time it reaches a tribunal the employer is usually the one that folds as going through the whole process can take away the confidentiality that an out of court settlement "on the steps" (as it's called in Oireland) can offer and can make them look very bad in the media. Most employers are far more concerned with bad publicity than most individuals would be. I was there with my brother as a witness and it was bizarre to see his lawyer scum go to their lawyer scum and "barter" the offered amount back and forth.
There is absolutely no way to know if the ex-chav doctor chick was standing up for her principles or if she is just a money hungry bastard. How could any one of you know that? Do any of you know her personally?
As I said in my summary, I think it may have been a combination of money and principle but I am very doubtful it is money only. Not many people play poker with £1.2m stakes unless they think they will win.
Would have been fun to see Chelsea's noses rubbed in it mind.
DB10GOONER wrote:Having seen my brother go through something similar years ago, I can tell you straight up, it's all about brinkmanship and bluffing. Both sides hold out as long as possible hoping the other side will crack first. By the time it reaches a tribunal the employer is usually the one that folds as going through the whole process can take away the confidentiality that an out of court settlement "on the steps" (as it's called in Oireland) can offer and can make them look very bad in the media. Most employers are far more concerned with bad publicity than most individuals would be. I was there with my brother as a witness and it was bizarre to see his lawyer scum go to their lawyer scum and "barter" the offered amount back and forth.
There is absolutely no way to know if the ex-chav doctor chick was standing up for her principles or if she is just a money hungry bastard. How could any one of you know that? Do any of you know her personally?
As I said in my summary, I think it may have been a combination of money and principle but I am very doubtful it is money only. Not many people play poker with £1.2m stakes unless they think they will win.
Would have been fun to see Chelsea's noses rubbed in it mind.
I was hoping it would be very public and very embarrassing for the chav and in particular Moron-hio himself. Shame it wasn't.
nut flush gooner wrote:So it's done. Settlement reached so we will never know exactly what happened.
One thing though Maureen turned up today 6 days before he was summoned. So it would appear he/chelski have apologised to her and possibly increased the compensation. Clearly carrying on with the tribunal would probably expose Chelsea and Maureen in a bad way. But we already know what a nasty club and nasty piece of work Maureen is.
Right last word on this one....
IF it was a matter of principal an apology would suffice, but will wait a long time for that one
She had a just grievance, but anything up to £5 million seems a tad excessive, but thats Chelsea money so not too bothered
There you go I'm done.....dont really give a fuck about any of them
Unreal you talk bollocks for a day then you say you don't give a fuck about them, lmao.
As I said Chelsea backed down because they know her allegations where true, and would be damaging to the clubs reputation. She didn't take the case to tribunal purely for the money, it was because she had a genuine grievance. Where did you get the "up to £5m" settlement from the daily star?
DB10GOONER wrote:Having seen my brother go through something similar years ago, I can tell you straight up, it's all about brinkmanship and bluffing. Both sides hold out as long as possible hoping the other side will crack first. By the time it reaches a tribunal the employer is usually the one that folds as going through the whole process can take away the confidentiality that an out of court settlement "on the steps" (as it's called in Oireland) can offer and can make them look very bad in the media. Most employers are far more concerned with bad publicity than most individuals would be. I was there with my brother as a witness and it was bizarre to see his lawyer scum go to their lawyer scum and "barter" the offered amount back and forth.
There is absolutely no way to know if the ex-chav doctor chick was standing up for her principles or if she is just a money hungry bastard. How could any one of you know that? Do any of you know her personally?
As I said in my summary, I think it may have been a combination of money and principle but I am very doubtful it is money only. Not many people play poker with £1.2m stakes unless they think they will win.
Would have been fun to see Chelsea's noses rubbed in it mind.
I was hoping it would be very public and very embarrassing for the chav and in particular Moron-hio himself. Shame it wasn't.
everyone was hoping he would be in the dock, fuck only knows what he would have said...now that would be interesting
Straight away I am viewing this case as different because she is a (fit 
) woman and I reckon there are thousands more like me even if they dont admit it. 
If the chavs as a club had anything about themselves then they would have dealt with this straight away by discipling moaninho, but instead they decided to stand by a manager that has history of being a bullying and causing trouble in every club he has been at.
yeah I'm due a conspiracy theory anyway...took me ages to come up with this one!
