The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[Gunner Rob]

A lot of Remain advocates and posters on this forum have been sensationalist and patronising (as graciously admitted by Nutflush).
Leave supporters were characterised as racist and economically illiterate.

And still this morning the bollocks continues. A number of posters have stated that the pound is at its lowest for 30 years. Bollocks!
It may have suffered its biggest fall, but that's not the same thing. A couple of years back a pound bought you 1.01 euros. This morning, before the markets have properly corrected you can get 1.23, nearly 25% more.

I don't know exactly what the future holds, but at most it will be a bit different to how it would've been. Maybe a bit better, maybe a bit worse. Let's not panic.

The pound will fall and a weak pound means that imports will cost more – along with them the many food imports that we rely on .

Petrol and other oil products are priced in dollars so transport costs will soar and add to inflation. Prices of all goods will rise and we see the return of inflation.

Motorists pay more to fill up at the petrol stations.

Stocks and share prices fall. As these back all our pension funds, then new pensioners will receive lower pensions in future.

Interest rates will rise to protect the pound so mortgage payments increase.

Prices rise as migrant workers fade away and British workers won't work for same pay as migrant workers and won't do the same jobs

Thats how it will affect the man in the street - the working man who lives from one pay packet to the next

Did someone say better off???

Time will tell, but welcome to an uncertain world – and remember you voted for it.

[mcdowell42]

And free to ride your women. Let's not forget the riding of your women.

Its only fair since Ive fucked most of yours too !
In Archway there was a great place for the Irish girls called the Gresham ,then in Kilburn there was Ashtons (renamed Gashtons) on the edgeware rd next to the Galtymore ,fucking excellent place for pulling expeically when I was going through a grab a ginger phase !

DB goes into hiding

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeees the east of England has been ravaged by low life from all over Eu sometimes 10 to a room coming and going all hours ogling our fucking daughters pissing in our gardens in front of our small children poor Britain has spoken
Now you'll all have to fucking wake up

Those are disgustingly xenophobic and borderline racist comments. You can take a week off from right now.

DB10 to the rescue! I seriously had to refrain.

Fair fucks to you for not getting dragged into it with him. I know this is a seriously contentious issue on here and we have tried to not ban people but those comments are disgusting. If he repeats them after his 7 day ban then it'll be permanent.

I think you should have banned nutsoclever too tbh, in fact had I mod powers both of you would have a 7 day ban

[Herd]

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/0 ... irish-sea/

check this one out

[GranadaJoe]

A lot of Remain advocates and posters on this forum have been sensationalist and patronising (as graciously admitted by Nutflush).
Leave supporters were characterised as racist and economically illiterate.

And still this morning the bollocks continues. A number of posters have stated that the pound is at its lowest for 30 years. Bollocks!
It may have suffered its biggest fall, but that's not the same thing. A couple of years back a pound bought you 1.01 euros. This morning, before the markets have properly corrected you can get 1.23, nearly 25% more.

I don't know exactly what the future holds, but at most it will be a bit different to how it would've been. Maybe a bit better, maybe a bit worse. Let's not panic.

The pound will fall and a weak pound means that imports will cost more – along with them the many food imports that we rely on .

Petrol and other oil products are priced in dollars so transport costs will soar and add to inflation. Prices of all goods will rise and we see the return of inflation.

Motorists pay more to fill up at the petrol stations.

Stocks and share prices fall. As these back all our pension funds, then new pensioners will receive lower pensions in future.

Interest rates will rise to protect the pound so mortgage payments increase.

Prices rise as migrant workers fade away and British workers won't work for same pay as migrant workers and won't do the same jobs

Thats how it will affect the man in the street - the working man who lives from one pay packet to the next

Did someone say better off???

Time will tell, but welcome to an uncertain world – and remember you voted for it.

You have a clear view on the economic implications, but I'm sure you could (as an academic exercise) present a positive view.

I'm not sure what your definition of 'soar' is, but I don't think inflation will be hugely affected, and a little bit of inflation is good for the economy.
It's true imports will be more expensive if priced in dollars, but exports will be cheaper. Who knows what the overall impact will be.

You express concern for the working man, but it seems to be the working man who has swung this vote; people who have traditionally voted Labour or not voted at all. They seem not to share your analysis.

Many people have quoted 'the biggest fall in the pound in 30 years'. Another way to put it would be to say that as recently as 1985 the pound was lower than today, yet the world carried on, the economy grew, people became wealthier etc.

There have been many panics in my lifetime and in all of them the doom mongers have been proved to have been wildly over the top.

I did vote out, but I found it a difficult decision with many logical arguments on both sides, and I worry about the sense of people who present only one side of the argument, whichever side they are on.

[Chippy]

More project fear.

Sources within Morgan Stanley have told the BBC that the bank is stepping up a process that could see up to 2,000 of its London-based investment banking staff being relocated to Dublin or Frankfurt.

The US bank, which established a task force looking into any staff relocations, will not be waiting for Article 50 that triggers the formal process of a country quitting the EU.

The jobs that could be moved from the UK would be in euro clearing, as well as other investment banking functions and senior management.

The bank needs to use the passporting system, which allows banks to offer financial services in all EU countries without having to establish a permenant base in that member state.

The president of Morgan, Stanley Colm Kelleher, told Bloomberg two days ago that Brexit would be “the most consequential thing that we’ve ever seen since the war”.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business ... ws_central

[A11M11]

According to the news in Catalonia they have denied that.

[DB10GOONER]

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/0 ... irish-sea/

check this one out

You can all fuck off with the economic refugee thing!! We will not accept you - that's our fucking gig!!

[augie]

I wouldn't dream of claiming to know the impacts (positive and negative) that this will have on the uk, and cos it is a vote for uk residents only, I wouldn't dream of telling them who is wrong and who is right.
On one hand I absolutely applaud the uk for standing up to the eu and not handing over any more power - this bullshit of being told that a country has to take in refugees is absolute bullshit and even more so if the country concerned has issues of it's own that needs fixing first. Over here I can remember the outrage when it was discovered that (and I'm only using this country as an example) a polish guy working here could claim childrens allowance for his child living in Poland, even though neither his wife nor his child had ever set foot in Ireland
However, if our exiled brighton forum member doesn't think that it will have any negative impact, then he is deluding himself - companies from outside the eu have been using the uk (as they have Ireland) as a gateway into the European market, and now that door has shut you would expect this countries will be re-assessing their future if they are based in uk. What will it do for employment in the uk if these companies up sticks and move to an eu country ? We (Ireland) are expecting to be hit hard by the uk decision (tbh I don't know in what way we will be hit yet) but IF we had an aggressive approach here, we should be tapping up those companies and try to persuade them to set up base here - if we don't then some other country will.

[nut flush gooner]

A lot of Remain advocates and posters on this forum have been sensationalist and patronising (as graciously admitted by Nutflush).
Leave supporters were characterised as racist and economically illiterate.

And still this morning the bollocks continues. A number of posters have stated that the pound is at its lowest for 30 years. Bollocks!
It may have suffered its biggest fall, but that's not the same thing. A couple of years back a pound bought you 1.01 euros. This morning, before the markets have properly corrected you can get 1.23, nearly 25% more.

I don't know exactly what the future holds, but at most it will be a bit different to how it would've been. Maybe a bit better, maybe a bit worse. Let's not panic.

The pound will fall and a weak pound means that imports will cost more – along with them the many food imports that we rely on .

Petrol and other oil products are priced in dollars so transport costs will soar and add to inflation. Prices of all goods will rise and we see the return of inflation.

Motorists pay more to fill up at the petrol stations.

Stocks and share prices fall. As these back all our pension funds, then new pensioners will receive lower pensions in future.

Interest rates will rise to protect the pound so mortgage payments increase.

Prices rise as migrant workers fade away and British workers won't work for same pay as migrant workers and won't do the same jobs

Thats how it will affect the man in the street - the working man who lives from one pay packet to the next

Did someone say better off???

Time will tell, but welcome to an uncertain world – and remember you voted for it.

You have a clear view on the economic implications, but I'm sure you could (as an academic exercise) present a positive view.

I'm not sure what your definition of 'soar' is, but I don't think inflation will be hugely affected, and a little bit of inflation is good for the economy.
It's true imports will be more expensive if priced in dollars, but exports will be cheaper. Who knows what the overall impact will be.

You express concern for the working man, but it seems to be the working man who has swung this vote; people who have traditionally voted Labour or not voted at all. They seem not to share your analysis.

Many people have quoted 'the biggest fall in the pound in 30 years'. Another way to put it would be to say that as recently as 1985 the pound was lower than today, yet the world carried on, the economy grew, people became wealthier etc.

There have been many panics in my lifetime and in all of them the doom mongers have been proved to have been wildly over the top.

I did vote out, but I found it a difficult decision with many logical arguments on both sides, and I worry about the sense of people who present only one side of the argument, whichever side they are on.

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Pound vs Euro is pretty irrelevant when it comes to analysing your future prospects. The dollar is important because if the pound is weak it stokes inflation (raw materials such as oil and metals are priced in dollars) which means the money in your pocket buys less. The way governments have combatted this historically is to put interest rates up. I doubt the B of E will put rates up this time but for sure we want our currency to be strong for so many reasons.

I am now totally brexited out had enough of it. Back to football and matched betting.

[storrmin571]

Can I be Irish or am I too tall?

[storrmin571]

Seriously though, how the fuck do the communities in Rhondda, Merthyr, Torfaen etc expect to get the same amount of money that the EU chucks at their shit tip areas? Cant see the Tories giving Wales anything.

Really thought that through haven't they?

[Chippy]

More project fear.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 99581.html

[Top Londoner]

If the personal insults and abuse don't stop I'm locking this thread.

Then lock the fucking thing.

One of the mods on here reckons that, unless you vote to stay in, then you are uneducated.
He judges people through his own eyes and experiences..
Instead of asking about one's background and reasons to vote out, he just calls for Brexit supporters to wear tin foil hats. Great example.

Probably has a property portfolio that's about to go tits up.

We've had depressions in the economy every decade, since the last war, and we'll sure exist the one coming from leaving the Common Market. It's just the greedy capitalists that want to protect their investments and assets, that are screaming like bitches.
Let them burn, and welcome to our world.

Seriously mate, I don't know what I have done to upset you but I know it has happened before.

I have never said that Brexiters were uneducated. Please show me where I did. I used the tin foil hat thing in reply to this post

I can see it being rigged or held again until they get the result they want. This is likely the only time the British can vote on this important issue.

I think the events this week show that there are and will be conspiracy theorists out there.

You know nothing about my background. I am a working class lad who by a huge slice of luck has done well. I have never forgotten where I came from and never will. I have never voted Tory in my life and never will. I want to pay more taxes, I think my house is ridiculously overvalued, oh and I think the people who will suffer most from Brexit are ordinary working class people, who will lose jobs, suffer from spending cuts and empowering the most right wing government we will ever see (Gove and Johnson). If you believe those guys, who want to privatise the NHS, are for Brexit to give it more money well I lose hope.

Anyway if you want to take me on in the 4 Yorkshiremen stakes believe me I have a pretty shit story to tell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

Cardboard box? You were lucky.

Yeah, well pm me, and I'll make you cry . Ok

[northbank123]

The irony of privileged young people bemoaning intolerance and ignorance whilst jumping to call 17.5m people arrogant idiots and assuming that they all subscribe to Nigel Farage's doctrine and voted on that basis is astounding.

Complaining about older people depriving the younger generation of opportunities - maybe if more than about 40% of 18-24 year olds were bothered enough about their future to vote then the referendum would have gone differently.

Privileged younger people do not understand the predicament of people from less well-off backgrounds and instead call them stupid and idiots for not agreeing with their views - after all you've got a university degree so you must be right?

People who have gone to great school and lived in big houses, sailed through school and gone to university (part-funded by parents), gallivanted around Europe and walked into high-paying jobs and comfortable lifestyles cannot understand why the masses who will never be able to go inter railing or do a year abroad at university or go and nail down a good job working abroad have different perspectives on the extent of the 'opportunities' offered.

This is a critical time for our country's future and we are in unchartered waters. But so far we've made it nearly a whole day without the sky falling in, which is an achievement in itself if you listen to some. Taking the university abroad theme (which is a big thing for a lot of complaining younger people), I've seen so many people claiming that opportunity has been denied to younger people now. As if Erasmus has no non-EU members. As if it is going to ignore the country with the best higher education institutions in Europe and deny all EU citizens access to those.

Younger people need to understand about democrCy a bit more - it's not about always getting what you want.