It's all a load of Cannonballs in here! This is the virtual Arsenal pub where you can chat about anything except football. Be warned though, like any pub, the content may not always be suitable for everyone.
Chippy wrote:Honestly mate. If you really did get a good degree from a good university could you please do us the favour of using capital letters, paragraphs and other grammar. We used to have a bloke on here called Augie who couldn't do it but is now a legend.
never said it was a good degree!
im just picking up boomers mantle on the spelling, I cant be doing with syntax when your as high flying as me...
I am totally convinced that the "Brexit" vote is going to be ignored. It is being attacked and degraded on several fronts. For example, yesterday evening Channel 4 ran a programme, "Racist Britain" which basically argued that the vote to leave the E.U. had legitimised racists and racism in Britain.
This afternoon on Sky News they have run a "debate" asking whether the referendum result is legal.
Along with all the "Brexiteers" being sidelined from the political process, and calls for a snap General Election to create a mandate to "Remain" , I am sure that the backsliding on the result is really kicking in.
So much for democracy!
Going back to a previous post buy my good self maybe worded wrong in the heat of the moment ( sorry Db10 )
If I live next door to some troublesome teens and there white English and I reprimand them no problem
However if those same neighbors are from Poland Lithuania Portugal Sudan Pakistan India or any where else in the world
I am then a racist and I'm sorry if that offends , but in my world that is a fact ....
the playing mantis wrote:why is being concerned about immigration levels racist?
ooo look the markets and CCY is down again, lets go quiet all the days it rose and jump on it when its dropped again. its what happens its not an inherently bad thing regarding the ex rate as it will boost exports, its artifical speculating causing this and big investors attempting to make killings as due to the media and chattering clases and london bubble some investors are being spooked.
there was always going to short term pain, once the media get bored things will get back to normal...
whats wrong with house prices going down? it will help young people get on the ladder and hopefully burst the ridiculous price bubble that exists. the losers will be people who have entiely invested in property, but more fool them im afraid. eggs and baskets spring to mind
if there is no brexit then there will be riots. the brexit majority would have been even bigger imo were it not for the tragic shooting of that mp (whats happened there btw, all gone very quiet on the guy who did it?)
i think may was a closet brexiter as she was anonymous in the remian campaign which is odd for such a senior minister.
this thread should be locked like the transfer thread as its done as is wenger
For the average man in the street what happens to the stock market only matters when it comes to thinking about taking retirement benefits from a pension.
With regards to currency, the £ has fallen to the levels predicted levels. This is what will cause the pain over the next few years, a lower £ means we have to pay more in the shops for our staples. It also means manufacturers costs increase because the raw materials that they use are priced in dollars again, so they have a choice either put prices up or lay people off.
I totally disagree with you about the vote, if anything a lot of people are now regretting to vote leave. If there was another referendum , given that vote leave blatantly lied and admitted it they wouldn't stand a chance.
Economists are already saying our GDP will be 1% lower next year as a result of Brexit. The only people that are happy now are those that still think we will be better off, but in reality haven't got a clue.
the CCY uncertainty was predicted in the short term and that's what's happened, once a new leader is in place things will normalise. regardless the massive boost to exports this gives needs to be considered to. The sort of manufacturers that are significantly impacted by price fluctuations in raw material proced in USD are those that would have already locked these in via long dated futures, so any potential impact on that will be a long way down the line and probably not at all once things normalise.
again the rest is mostly subjective. regarding peoples regretting voting leave that's an illusion of the media just playing to their agendas. ive not come across anyone who regrets voting leave. the sympathy and supposed 'guilt' driven by the death of the MP would undoubtedly have influenced certain types of undecided to vote remain. that's subjective yes but human nature suggests is highly likely
How do you know. Are you the chancellor of the exchequer by any chance? What is normalisation of our currency - it has fallen from $2 10 years ago to sub $1.30 today. Is normalisation $1.30, $1.50, $1 or some other figure plucked out of thin air?
The UK is a net importing country, that is why I keep making this point about our food/electricals and petrol costs going up. Yes in currency terms our goods that we export will appear cheaper, but as I have already pointed out unless we have free trade agreements it will be very difficult to barge in to sectors overseas when their governments will be protecting home grown industries by taxing and imposing tariffs on our exports. The EU will not give us a free trade agreement nor will China, India or the US unless we agree some concessions from our side. With the EU the big sticking point will be free movement of Labour.
By the way, your comment about futures contracts was so plucked out of something like google search it's funny. You can't hedge currency forever .
i could respond with redarmys tactic of just f off...to perfectly reasonable questions...
or state that last comment wasnt plucked out of google search at at all as its what i studied and do to a much lesser extent...im not talking about ccy hedges, im talking about commodity hedging (which i accept covers off an element of ex rate volatility by its nature but is aimed against real rather than notional (ie ex rate changes) in th price). and im not talking about forever. the majority of major investors (thinking airlines as a specific example) will have hedged commodities in fear of volatility after brexit long term. they dont need to keep hedging thats my point. things will equalise. and thats not even getting on to the actual fact we have very little manufacturing...!
as for the cost of things, food costs are predicted to come down...
So does that make you the illiterate trader then .
Labour's NEC chooses to write off the next half a decade and General Election rather than causing an inevitable split of the party (possibly just delaying). Not surprising given the various vulture law firms, aggressive rhetoric from Len McCluskey and co and the behaviour of the paramilitary wing of Corbyn's supporters. Haven't read the rules myself but given the obvious ambiguity my instinct is that Corbyn going on the ballot is sensibly both legally and politically in the long-term. Huge fuck-up to bring in such unclear rules on such a fundamental issue.
Encouraging leadership candidates to lie in bed with the unions has been threatening to cause an enormous shitstorm (as if it didn't do enough damage when it helped the wrong Miliband given the leadership) and now it has.
Corbyn is unelectable as a PM. This isn't some myth made up by Blairites (who account for around 80% of the PLP if you listen to any Corbyn supporter given the scale of the no confidence vote), it's the reality. The reason why the MPs are so against him is because half of them might well find themselves out of a job come election time thanks to the public perception of the party under Corbyn. He is turning them into a protest party who can't even provide effective opposition - I get that people claim to be fed up with the political system but Cameron spent ten months navigating through PMQs in complete cruise control.
The hard core left of the Labour support who would vote for them anyway (given the absence of a prominent left-wing party) love him but the vast majority of the electorate who do not firmly declare unswerving loyalty to a political party are not likely to place any trust in him to run a government. I do not identify as either a Labour or a Conservative supporter (and have voted for both in the past) and would never dream of voting for a Corbyn government. Doing little but moaning about austerity is just going further down the wrong road that Labour embarked upon prior to the 2015 election.
I heard so much garbage about 'sleepwalking into another Conservative government' last year; everybody seems to overlook the fact that the electorate actually voted for austerity in that GE. We all knew the Conservatives would continue to make major cuts (Labour hammered on about it non-stop) and people made a conscious choice to vote for this rather than the woolly economic policies of a Labour party which was viewed as fiscally untrustworthy and ran instead on a primarily social justice platform. Simply complaining about the nasty Tories didn't work then and it certainly isn't working now.
Brexit was a huge opportunity to bury the Tory reign but actually looks like the best thing to happen to the Conservative party for decades. The decades-old Eurosceptic fever which has dogged the party has been resolved and Theresa May (who despite her career-savvy stance has always been perceived as genuinely Eurosceptic) is certainly the right person to unite the party at this time. The Tories have avoided a leadership squabble and will jettison divisive individuals like Boris, not to mention Brexit rendering UKIP largely defunct and allowing the party to sit comfortably in the centre-ground of politics whilst Labour shift radically further left and the Lib Dems are nowhere in sight.
“These are dark times for Labour, and they are dangerous times for our country. A referendum to settle an argument in the Conservative Party has resulted in the country being torn apart – our economy damaged, our society hurt.”
As an outsider looking in, the basic stripped down perception presented by your media is this;
Britain's (and especially England's) Brexit voters are split into three very general class-discernible groups; The ignorant and poor chavs, the educated middle classes, and the ignorant and rich upper classes including the silly inbred aristocracy. The educated middle classes want a multicultural society and to stay in the EU. The chavs and toffs are all racists and want good old white England back from the clutches of Johhny Foreigner. After all, we must remember the chavs are all racist football hooligans and the toffs all thought that chap Hitler wasn't really a bad sort until war broke out between England and Germany.
Brightonnxtround wrote:Going back to a previous post buy my good self maybe worded wrong in the heat of the moment ( sorry Db10 )
If I live next door to some troublesome teens and there white English and I reprimand them no problem
However if those same neighbors are from Poland Lithuania Portugal Sudan Pakistan India or any where else in the world
I am then a racist and I'm sorry if that offends , but in my world that is a fact ....
It can happen, but you can see the difference between your post here and the one you posted about "foreigners pissing in your garden" right?
I work in recruitment and I've had the race card thrown at me so many times it is not funny. A candidate doesn't get the job they want? That's because they are black or Muslim or Polish or whatever and I'm discriminating against them.
But you can't dislike or denigrate all foreigners based on a bad experience with a few, mate. Judge the person, not their race.
Brightonnxtround wrote:Going back to a previous post buy my good self maybe worded wrong in the heat of the moment ( sorry Db10 )
If I live next door to some troublesome teens and there white English and I reprimand them no problem
However if those same neighbors are from Poland Lithuania Portugal Sudan Pakistan India or any where else in the world
I am then a racist and I'm sorry if that offends , but in my world that is a fact ....
It can happen, but you can see the difference between your post here and the one you posted about "foreigners pissing in your garden" right?
I work in recruitment and I've had the race card thrown at me so many times it is not funny. A candidate doesn't get the job they want? That's because they are black or Muslim or Polish or whatever and I'm discriminating against them.
But you can't dislike or denigrate all foreigners based on a bad experience with a few, mate. Judge the person, not their race.
Yeah if u do that u end up thinking the oirish nation are all pissed up lazy midgets who fuck goats and spend all their time on internet forums!
whereas that's just those that support the arse. the rest are normal.
Brightonnxtround wrote:Going back to a previous post buy my good self maybe worded wrong in the heat of the moment ( sorry Db10 )
If I live next door to some troublesome teens and there white English and I reprimand them no problem
However if those same neighbors are from Poland Lithuania Portugal Sudan Pakistan India or any where else in the world
I am then a racist and I'm sorry if that offends , but in my world that is a fact ....
It can happen, but you can see the difference between your post here and the one you posted about "foreigners pissing in your garden" right?
I work in recruitment and I've had the race card thrown at me so many times it is not funny. A candidate doesn't get the job they want? That's because they are black or Muslim or Polish or whatever and I'm discriminating against them.
But you can't dislike or denigrate all foreigners based on a bad experience with a few, mate. Judge the person, not their race.
Yeah if u do that u end up thinking the oirish nation are all pissed up lazy midgets who fuck goats and spend all their time on internet forums!
whereas that's just those that support the arse. the rest are normal.
Brightonnxtround wrote:Going back to a previous post buy my good self maybe worded wrong in the heat of the moment ( sorry Db10 )
If I live next door to some troublesome teens and there white English and I reprimand them no problem
However if those same neighbors are from Poland Lithuania Portugal Sudan Pakistan India or any where else in the world
I am then a racist and I'm sorry if that offends , but in my world that is a fact ....
It can happen, but you can see the difference between your post here and the one you posted about "foreigners pissing in your garden" right?
I work in recruitment and I've had the race card thrown at me so many times it is not funny. A candidate doesn't get the job they want? That's because they are black or Muslim or Polish or whatever and I'm discriminating against them.
But you can't dislike or denigrate all foreigners based on a bad experience with a few, mate. Judge the person, not their race.
Yeah if u do that u end up thinking the oirish nation are all pissed up lazy midgets who fuck goats and spend all their time on internet forums!
whereas that's just those that support the arse. the rest are normal.
No they're not.
Lol my wifes orish db10 and shes pissed all the time bless her
Brightonnxtround wrote:Going back to a previous post buy my good self maybe worded wrong in the heat of the moment ( sorry Db10 )
If I live next door to some troublesome teens and there white English and I reprimand them no problem
However if those same neighbors are from Poland Lithuania Portugal Sudan Pakistan India or any where else in the world
I am then a racist and I'm sorry if that offends , but in my world that is a fact ....
It can happen, but you can see the difference between your post here and the one you posted about "foreigners pissing in your garden" right?
I work in recruitment and I've had the race card thrown at me so many times it is not funny. A candidate doesn't get the job they want? That's because they are black or Muslim or Polish or whatever and I'm discriminating against them.
But you can't dislike or denigrate all foreigners based on a bad experience with a few, mate. Judge the person, not their race.
Yeah if u do that u end up thinking the oirish nation are all pissed up lazy midgets who fuck goats and spend all their time on internet forums!
whereas that's just those that support the arse. the rest are normal.
No they're not.
Lol my wifes orish db10 and shes pissed all the time bless her
Possibly explained less by her nationality and more by the fact she's married to you??
Em the jam I'm in 
