Arsenal succession plan

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The news today that Tony Adams is being made U-18 coach, Freddie Llundberg will be u-16 coach with Steve Bould remaining as first team coach appears that the club are setting up a legendary succession plan for when Wenger leaves. The Arsenal DNA will be coached and instilled in the youngsters.

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They all need massive pay checks and are contractually obliged to say "yes sir" when OGL speaks!

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Nos89 wrote:The news today that Tony Adams is being made U-18 coach, Freddie Llundberg will be u-16 coach with Steve Bould remaining as first team coach appears that the club are setting up a legendary succession plan for when Wenger leaves. The Arsenal DNA will be coached and instilled in the youngsters.

I admire your optimism.

This on the same day that TH14 was elbowed out of the club, despite working for nothing, because he wouldn't give up his weekend punditry work.

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Fuck Henry. Just like Keown the bloke wants to coast by on his reputation and is more interested in getting his face on TV and playing the cock on Sky than actually earning his craft. He is on sky all the time so it would have been a huge interference.

The succession plan should be to scour every single area of the club that the bloke has touched with industrial-grade bleach. Not to pack the club full of his disciples who want to carry on his work, no matter how great they might have been as players.

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Having bould on the coaching staff hasn't done a whole lot for bringing the AFC dna through has it ? :roll:

Tbh I would much rather have the right people for the job in place regardless of who they played for or coached in the past - you don't have to have played for a club to install passion and commitment into it's players, IF you have the same passion and commitment in you

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How is it thiough that some of the biggest clubs in Europe including country's have x players managing
And seem to do a good job or am I being an Arse again ....... :shock: :shock:

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northbank123 wrote:Fuck Henry. Just like Keown the bloke wants to coast by on his reputation and is more interested in getting his face on TV and playing the cock on Sky than actually earning his craft. He is on sky all the time so it would have been a huge interference.

The succession plan should be to scour every single area of the club that the bloke has touched with industrial-grade bleach. Not to pack the club full of his disciples who want to carry on his work, no matter how great they might have been as players.
I think you're overlooking the fact that both TA6 and Freddie have both spoken out against Wenger in the last couple of years. All we need is DB10 to join TA6 then that'll be a dream team of coaches at the club for the pre-bowl supporters.

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GranadaJoe wrote:
Nos89 wrote:The news today that Tony Adams is being made U-18 coach, Freddie Llundberg will be u-16 coach with Steve Bould remaining as first team coach appears that the club are setting up a legendary succession plan for when Wenger leaves. The Arsenal DNA will be coached and instilled in the youngsters.

I admire your optimism.

This on the same day that TH14 was elbowed out of the club, despite working for nothing, because he wouldn't give up his weekend punditry work.
From reports I've read Henry was given the option to concentrate only on the coaching side of things. Of course Gary Neville excelled as a manager after doing his coaching badges and punditry at the same time.

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Brightonnxtround wrote:How is it thiough that some of the biggest clubs in Europe including country's have x players managing
And seem to do a good job or am I being an Arse again ....... :shock: :shock:
Adams and Neville just two names mentioned on this thread who are great warnings against fast-tracking prominent PL players into management based solely on a successful playing career. Ince, Shearer and Keane three more plucked from a long list.

Interestingly Bergkamp who has also been mentioned actually learned his craft properly. After intensive studying he worked as a trainee at Ajax, before moving onto their U12 team and up to their U19 team alongside the Dutch B team before finally moving to the Ajax senior team. I know that Bergkamp is an assistant and has stated that he has no desire to be a manager, but the principle is the same.

Unfortunately the likes of Keown, Henry, Shearer and many others seem to think that being a boring twat bleating populist garbage on Sky or BBC is somehow an effective substitute for actual coaching or management experience. Shearer is still incredulous that they didn't give him the England job 4 years ago :lol:

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Is it was announced a week ago TA6 was coming back as under 18s coach. I'd love him to take over from Steve bould some day with a new gaffer in.

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Nos89 wrote:
northbank123 wrote:Fuck Henry. Just like Keown the bloke wants to coast by on his reputation and is more interested in getting his face on TV and playing the cock on Sky than actually earning his craft. He is on sky all the time so it would have been a huge interference.

The succession plan should be to scour every single area of the club that the bloke has touched with industrial-grade bleach. Not to pack the club full of his disciples who want to carry on his work, no matter how great they might have been as players.
I think you're overlooking the fact that both TA6 and Freddie have both spoken out against Wenger in the last couple of years. All we need is DB10 to join TA6 then that'll be a dream team of coaches at the club for the pre-bowl supporters.
Well, I'm a pre-bowl supporter and it does not fill me with hope of a "dream team". How do you know they will be successful? How do you know they are good coaches? How do you know Wenger won't just drill and instill his own busted flush of a philosophy into them - which let's be honest is very likely. Great players seldom make great coaches or great managers. I find it hard to be optimistic about anything Wenger touches anymore tbh.

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I think the great leaders succession plan is his head being kept alive in a jar along the lines of "futuramas" Richard Nixon skit

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I'm not sure whjat Arsenal DNA is but if the club think they can package it and sell it to mug punters like me then they will .
Their is NO succsessor to Wenger bieng groomed and frankly when he leaves we will need to dismantle the entire structure from the ground up.

1. Scouting ; Our scouting in this country has become farcical and the door is an ever revolving one ,abroad we arent much better
2. Training : The entitre Arsenal coaching model is based on endless games of 3/4/5 a side keep ball ,this will need to be torn down and replace with modern methods
There are NO competent coaches at Arsenal !
3. Transfers: Dick Law needs to be ousted and Gazidis might have to work for a living .

Good to have TA in the system but he Isnt Manager material, Freddie love then man but have no idea what he's like as a coach .

Ive said it manay times that I want DB10 as our next manager when Wenger goes in 4 years time !

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Herd wrote:I'm not sure whjat Arsenal DNA is but if the club think they can package it and sell it to mug punters like me then they will .
Their is NO succsessor to Wenger bieng groomed and frankly when he leaves we will need to dismantle the entire structure from the ground up.

1. Scouting ; Our scouting in this country has become farcical and the door is an ever revolving one ,abroad we arent much better
2. Training : The entitre Arsenal coaching model is based on endless games of 3/4/5 a side keep ball ,this will need to be torn down and replace with modern methods
There are NO competent coaches at Arsenal !
3. Transfers: Dick Law needs to be ousted and Gazidis might have to work for a living .

Good to have TA in the system but he Isnt Manager material, Freddie love then man but have no idea what he's like as a coach .

Ive said it manay times that I want DB10 as our next manager when Wenger goes in 4 years time !
Agree with all of that (Plan? There is no plan!) except the DB10 for manager bit. I would want him to have managed successfully to some degree at a big club prior to taking the reigns at The Arsenal tbh. But it's not an issue as he has stated he is not interested in becoming a manager but wants to be a coach working hand in hand with a manager. So a "dream team" of DB10 and "A.N. Other" would be my ideal. 8)

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Agree with those that say there's no plan. Was it on here or twatter I read that in signing Ibrahimovic United have replaced JVP quicker than we have :roll:

Sums it up really, we'll get in a new manager on the fly just like we do everything else. There's no plan during the season, there's no plan in the off season and there's certainly no plan to replace Le Fartpipe.

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