The ''no one is coming'' Transfer Thread

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I'm officially embarrassed to support this shambolic sham of a club, I mean what the actual f**k do they think they are doing?,we'll sign nobody of any real standing, a club with an iconic status at least in England has been reduced to a laughing stock, a standing joke throughout Europe. It just seems to exist now solely to be a money sponge, sucking the cash out of the pockets of anybody that gets close without ever coming even close to making its supporters proud, f**k this groundhog season shit, it's tedious and beyond comical now and the really sad thing is I know they don't give a shit. The club I grew up with is dead, the club that I marvelled at as I climbed out into the daylight flooding the Highbury pitch is gone, a soulless bowl full of tourists...I just don't care anymore.

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Nos89 wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36874091

Clearly he was too expensive, Wenger wouldn't spend £30m 3 years ago so this was never ever getting off the ground.
Juventus are a bigger club than us. 4 consecutive league titles CL finalists and semi finalists. Don't think Higuain was ever gonna leave Italy at this point in his career.
The Italian league falls behind Spain, Germany and the EPL both in terms of quality and finance. Sure, they have dominated their league but Italian clubs haven't set Europe alight for decades since the likes of AC Milan used to win the CL regularly.

To suggest Higuain has gone to a bigger club is ludicrous, ok they have spent a lot of money but we are at the start of the biggest TV deal in history from Sky/BT. The amount of money swimming around PL clubs is ridiculous. If Arsenal had £200m last season in the bank, you can be sure they will have a lot more than that now. I accept the transfer fee is crazy but we should have got our man 3 years ago for less than half Juve paid.

If Wenger doesn't get a striker and a proven CD before the season, the atmosphere inside the emirates will be poisonous with fans fighting each other. We are an utter laughing stock.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Nos89 wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36874091

Clearly he was too expensive, Wenger wouldn't spend £30m 3 years ago so this was never ever getting off the ground.
Juventus are a bigger club than us. 4 consecutive league titles CL finalists and semi finalists. Don't think Higuain was ever gonna leave Italy at this point in his career.
The Italian league falls behind Spain, Germany and the EPL both in terms of quality and finance. Sure, they have dominated their league but Italian clubs haven't set Europe alight for decades since the likes of AC Milan used to win the CL regularly.

To suggest Higuain has gone to a bigger club is ludicrous, ok they have spent a lot of money but we are at the start of the biggest TV deal in history from Sky/BT. The amount of money swimming around PL clubs is ridiculous. If Arsenal had £200m last season in the bank, you can be sure they will have a lot more than that now. I accept the transfer fee is crazy but we should have got our man 3 years ago for less than half Juve paid.

If Wenger doesn't get a striker and a proven CD before the season, the atmosphere inside the emirates will be poisonous with fans fighting each other. We are an utter laughing stock.



The premier league is way better than serie a, but lets put our personal bias aside and admit that juve are a much bigger club than us. They have won loads more domestic titles and they have been way more successful in European club competitions than us :(
Sometimes we as fans get blinded by facts - in the last 15-20 years we have grown our fanbase enormously to the point that we are one of the biggest supported clubs in the world. However if you look beyond that you will also see that in that same timeframe we as a club have not been that successful on the pitch, and that also plays a big part in how big clubs are judged. If you go back beyond that time, juve would absolutely blow us away in terms of trophies, plus I would suggest that they probably had a bigger worldwide support than us then

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The dumb a$$ does it every year - he has zero empathy for the target teams. Someone surely has to educate the guy that the later you leave your buying the later the selling team has to buy a replacement and so their reluctance and the price just increase. Of course he is also always the last manager to get his squad settled - EVERY YEAR!

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augie wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Nos89 wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36874091

Clearly he was too expensive, Wenger wouldn't spend £30m 3 years ago so this was never ever getting off the ground.
Juventus are a bigger club than us. 4 consecutive league titles CL finalists and semi finalists. Don't think Higuain was ever gonna leave Italy at this point in his career.
The Italian league falls behind Spain, Germany and the EPL both in terms of quality and finance. Sure, they have dominated their league but Italian clubs haven't set Europe alight for decades since the likes of AC Milan used to win the CL regularly.

To suggest Higuain has gone to a bigger club is ludicrous, ok they have spent a lot of money but we are at the start of the biggest TV deal in history from Sky/BT. The amount of money swimming around PL clubs is ridiculous. If Arsenal had £200m last season in the bank, you can be sure they will have a lot more than that now. I accept the transfer fee is crazy but we should have got our man 3 years ago for less than half Juve paid.

If Wenger doesn't get a striker and a proven CD before the season, the atmosphere inside the emirates will be poisonous with fans fighting each other. We are an utter laughing stock.



The premier league is way better than serie a, but lets put our personal bias aside and admit that juve are a much bigger club than us. They have won loads more domestic titles and they have been way more successful in European club competitions than us :(
Sometimes we as fans get blinded by facts - in the last 15-20 years we have grown our fanbase enormously to the point that we are one of the biggest supported clubs in the world. However if you look beyond that you will also see that in that same timeframe we as a club have not been that successful on the pitch, and that also plays a big part in how big clubs are judged. If you go back beyond that time, juve would absolutely blow us away in terms of trophies, plus I would suggest that they probably had a bigger worldwide support than us then
You could also say that the Italian League is not as competitive as the PL, it is dominated by the same teams pretty much every season. Whilst you can argue they have won much more silverware its not like comparing apples with apples.

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Swifty wrote:The dumb a$$ does it every year - he has zero empathy for the target teams. Someone surely has to educate the guy that the later you leave your buying the later the selling team has to buy a replacement and so their reluctance and the price just increase. Of course he is also always the last manager to get his squad settled - EVERY YEAR!

Nothing happens until middle of August....its a game of Poker.....WENGERS WORDS!!!

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nut flush gooner wrote:
augie wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Nos89 wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36874091

Clearly he was too expensive, Wenger wouldn't spend £30m 3 years ago so this was never ever getting off the ground.
Juventus are a bigger club than us. 4 consecutive league titles CL finalists and semi finalists. Don't think Higuain was ever gonna leave Italy at this point in his career.
The Italian league falls behind Spain, Germany and the EPL both in terms of quality and finance. Sure, they have dominated their league but Italian clubs haven't set Europe alight for decades since the likes of AC Milan used to win the CL regularly.

To suggest Higuain has gone to a bigger club is ludicrous, ok they have spent a lot of money but we are at the start of the biggest TV deal in history from Sky/BT. The amount of money swimming around PL clubs is ridiculous. If Arsenal had £200m last season in the bank, you can be sure they will have a lot more than that now. I accept the transfer fee is crazy but we should have got our man 3 years ago for less than half Juve paid.

If Wenger doesn't get a striker and a proven CD before the season, the atmosphere inside the emirates will be poisonous with fans fighting each other. We are an utter laughing stock.



The premier league is way better than serie a, but lets put our personal bias aside and admit that juve are a much bigger club than us. They have won loads more domestic titles and they have been way more successful in European club competitions than us :(
Sometimes we as fans get blinded by facts - in the last 15-20 years we have grown our fanbase enormously to the point that we are one of the biggest supported clubs in the world. However if you look beyond that you will also see that in that same timeframe we as a club have not been that successful on the pitch, and that also plays a big part in how big clubs are judged. If you go back beyond that time, juve would absolutely blow us away in terms of trophies, plus I would suggest that they probably had a bigger worldwide support than us then
You could also say that the Italian League is not as competitive as the PL, it is dominated by the same teams pretty much every season. Whilst you can argue they have won much more silverware its not like comparing apples with apples.


Maybe not as competitive when you factor in the lightweight clubs like empoli, Verona etc, but they were also fighting against two massive milan clubs plus the two roman clubs are no minnows either. Add to that the fact that back before sky invented football, juve were one of THE dominant forces in European club football, and to do so they had to beat the best clubs from all those other leagues too
Lets also acknowledge that our league is dominated by pretty much the same teams every season - yes the smaller teams in premier league put up more of a fight, but it still boils down to citeeh, chavs and manure every season, in the same way it is in italy

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Swifty wrote:The dumb a$$ does it every year - he has zero empathy for the target teams. Someone surely has to educate the guy that the later you leave your buying the later the selling team has to buy a replacement and so their reluctance and the price just increase. Of course he is also always the last manager to get his squad settled - EVERY YEAR!
You're right, Swifters. I think that's him as a person though. He lacks any empathy for anything that isn't about him. He can't understand why he can't always get his own way and why people don't accommodate everything he wants. He thinks he's right about everything, that his opinion is gospel and that's why when clubs don't agree with his valuation, he storms off rather than pay the going rate. The man struggles to see other points of view because he thinks he's always right and can't empathise. I reckon he suffers from a form of narcissistic personality disorder which might explain a lot about the decisions he makes and his overall attitude to new ideas or change. The man is simply incapable of seeing anything that isn't in line with his own opinion.

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Surely if we all want wenger gone then it's best we don't buy additional players, if he does get a world class forward :lol: and top quality CB as well as a DM then we will be up there or thereabouts, giving him the impetus to sign an extended contract (given that the top clubs have all strengthened whilst bringing in THE top managers).

Stay as we are and I can't see us making top four and as this is wengers self proclaimed vt then I can't see him extending, so as much as I would love a true world class striker etc its best we don't get one, sad but true.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Swifty wrote:The dumb a$$ does it every year - he has zero empathy for the target teams. Someone surely has to educate the guy that the later you leave your buying the later the selling team has to buy a replacement and so their reluctance and the price just increase. Of course he is also always the last manager to get his squad settled - EVERY YEAR!
You're right, Swifters. I think that's him as a person though. He lacks any empathy for anything that isn't about him. He can't understand why he can't always get his own way and why people don't accommodate everything he wants. He thinks he's right about everything, that his opinion is gospel and that's why when clubs don't agree with his valuation, he storms off rather than pay the going rate. The man struggles to see other points of view because he thinks he's always right and can't empathise. I reckon he suffers from a form of narcissistic personality disorder which might explain a lot about the decisions he makes and his overall attitude to new ideas or change.

That squad has not been settled for years now, glaring deficiencies never addressed, the bloke is incompetent and should be sacked

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A factor that seems to be constantly overlooked on here is the lack of outgoing transfers too - most of us expected/wanted to see the likes of gibbs, wally, Campbell and debouchy leave this summer, but yet we have seen nada :o Are we gonna have to endure these players again next season ? For me the first 3 are not good enough, and debouchy is in my opinion good enough but never gonna get his place back unless bellerin gets injured

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Nos89 wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36874091

Clearly he was too expensive, Wenger wouldn't spend £30m 3 years ago so this was never ever getting off the ground.
Juventus are a bigger club than us. 4 consecutive league titles CL finalists and semi finalists. Don't think Higuain was ever gonna leave Italy at this point in his career.
The Italian league falls behind Spain, Germany and the EPL both in terms of quality and finance. Sure, they have dominated their league but Italian clubs haven't set Europe alight for decades since the likes of AC Milan used to win the CL regularly.

To suggest Higuain has gone to a bigger club is ludicrous, ok they have spent a lot of money but we are at the start of the biggest TV deal in history from Sky/BT. The amount of money swimming around PL clubs is ridiculous. If Arsenal had £200m last season in the bank, you can be sure they will have a lot more than that now. I accept the transfer fee is crazy but we should have got our man 3 years ago for less than half Juve paid.

If Wenger doesn't get a striker and a proven CD before the season, the atmosphere inside the emirates will be poisonous with fans fighting each other. We are an utter laughing stock.
Are you saying that a team that has reached more Champions League finals in the last 20 years than us, won their domestic title more than us in the last 20 years, own their stadium, and Liam Brady left us for them, is a smaller club than The Arsenal? I would like to see your reasoning.

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augie wrote:A factor that seems to be constantly overlooked on here is the lack of outgoing transfers too - most of us expected/wanted to see the likes of gibbs, wally, Campbell and debouchy leave this summer, but yet we have seen nada :o Are we gonna have to endure these players again next season ? For me the first 3 are not good enough, and debouchy is in my opinion good enough but never gonna get his place back unless bellerin gets injured
Nobody can afford their wages.
Don't understand the grief Gibbs gets on here. I'd play him ahead of Monreal.

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Surely if we all want wenger gone then it's best we don't buy additional players, if he does get a world class forward :lol: and top quality CB as well as a DM then we will be up there or thereabouts, giving him the impetus to sign an extended contract (given that the top clubs have all strengthened whilst bringing in THE top managers).

Stay as we are and I can't see us making top four and as this is wengers self proclaimed vt then I can't see him extending, so as much as I would love a true world class striker etc its best we don't get one, sad but true.
I agree with this and am at that stage now (especially since this is the last year of his contract - and if he really fucks things up it will be hard for him to renew that contract)

I'm almost quite happy that Mertesacker is now injured - I want our opening day line up to be the most embarrassing team that Wenger has ever put on the pitch. the press love one of the "big" teams to fail and we are the most likely to this season I think. the knives will definitely be out for Wenger once we lose the first 2 matches of the season.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36901943

Get this *word censored* out of our club. The excuses have already started. Another season of Giroud going missing. Fuck off Arsenal.

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