THE WENGER THREAD

[augie]

DB10, the part I highlighted was the part that you suggested that kroenke "might be the biggest problem", and that is what I will not agree with. As I said, we all know that kroenke is a huge problem there, but a better manager in situ, would make us real challengers every season without the need to spend billions every transfer window

He might and he might not. It's very easy to fall into that lazy minimum requirement mode. I agree we don't need to spend billions every window but we obviously do need to spend. Kroenke won't want a manger at his door wanting to buy players, he'll want what he has now - reasonable financial return for minimal outlay. That mindset is rotten to the core and has a trickle down effect on the entire club - ffs we have supposed Arsenal fans on social media bragging about our finances rather than our history or trophies!!

I honestly believe we need to scour the club clean of everything that has the touch of Wenger, Kroenke and Gazidis. Just replacing Wenger is not enough - although it would be a helluva start!

See I look at le cock and see a man that is so intent on being a visionary and seeing things that others cant, that he will always be a barrier to the club being successful. I look at the xhaka signing and I question the logic in it - maybe the guy could turn out to be a brilliant signing for us, but I'm still wondering about the economics o signing a guy for £10m that he could have bought either kante or wanyama, and these are proven premier league players. If you are operating on a limited budget, how you use it is absolutely key and imo he cant even do that right

[Sean]

The Star reporting that Eddie Howe is wanted by Arsenal to replace Wenger when he eventually leaves

I wouldn't mind him. Young and progressive; everything that TOF is not.

He took Bournemouth up through the leagues AND kept them in the PL without going the suicidal Roberto Martinez relegation route.

Fair play to Robson, he is the only one who tells it like it is. I remember he got sacked from Arsenal's TV channel, because he was deemed to be too critical of the players. They replaced him with Adrian Clarke, who is happy to be a Wenger ass licker.

Agreed. He is the only one who tells it like it is and gives both barrels to The Old Fraud. Sadly, he's always tarnished as having 'sour grapes' over being sacked for telling the truth about how crap we've been these last several years.

FFS, the club had an experienced football man like Robson analysing our games and highlighting our many weaknesses and they tell HIM to fuck off?

No criticism is permitted of Kim-Jong Wenger's little lambs (and he built Cashburton with his bare hands too, you know)

The only worse ass licker on that channel, is Tom Watt. I remember that muppet with his propaganda, phone in show. Any one with even slight anti- Wenger sentiments were cut off, while pro Wengerites were allowed drone on, about their leader.

BFG4, I think you have a bad line there...

Arsenal PLC is quickly being exposed as the money-making farce it's been for the past 8 years. Just need more pundits and others in the public eye to grow a pair of bollox and tell it how it is

Absolutely.

The blatant money hoarding going on at the club is verging on criminal

When did Wenger stop being a football manager and one more interested in financial matters than sporting ones? I'd say around 2006-2007.

2004 - Invincibles season makes TOF untouchable
2006 - Cashburton move confirms TOF's God complex
2007 - Sacking of Dein gives TOF unlimited power - He listens to no-one now
2008 - Title failure. Begins vanity project: The failed Project Youth.
2011 - Untenable failure - Should have been sacked.

And on, and on, and on...

Its common knowledge Wenger sets a top value on players he targets and wont budge over it.
He sees himself as some sort of high priest of football economics and anyone that doesn't agree with him he deems unworthy of his time.

He is the biggest snob in football

Oh how we mocked Man Utd for their USA sellout back in 2005, How we laughed at them - We are the Arsenal, we don't sell out to foreign owners, we don't want their sort.

Only to end up under the Yank in 2011

You do understand that if Wenger wanted to pay £85 million or whatever for a player to strengthen us and push properly for the title that he could?

That its Wenger that wont pay the money because its over his valuation. That its Wenger that dithers, low-balls and fucks up our transfer windows? That its Wenger who decides who we buy and for how much?

The money has been made available by Kroenke for years Wenger is too cowardly to spend it.

As for Gazidis, he really is sending out mixed messages. Couple yeats ago he was on about us being able to compete. Now hes telling us ee cant compete.
Something seriously wrong. Just cant wait until Wenger leaves.

Absolutely. TOF is by far the biggest problem when it comes to signing actual quality. The austerity was a lie.

I'm furious to see Gazidis do a 180 over the money issue. TOF must have brought him to heel.

Drogba had 6(six) touches in the Arsenal 6 yard box.Six!.

Thnaks S Bould.

SB5 is not allowed to do anything of use by TOF

I agree. So many people get caught up in the Wenger hate that if you dare to suggest that there are other (possibly bigger) problems at the club you get labeled a Wenger lover or a Wenger apologist by complete morons.

Wenger is a problem and has to be removed, but at the end of the day (nominally, at least) Wenger works for the club. The club is owned by Mediocrity Stan and if Wenger is not delivering, he should be sacked by the owner. For Arsenal to ever get back on track as a high profile successful football club we need Wenger gone but equally we need Kroenke and his family and Gazidis gone too - maybe even more so than Wenger.

They all need to be removed in order;

1. TOF
2. Kroenke
3. Gazidis

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... fees-scary

amazing how his salary aint scary at all!!

Everything regarding the about the amount of money currently floating around in the game is looked upon as being completely obscene and vulgar by Le Gimp Mask.....apart from his own astronomical wage packet of course

WHAT A COMPLETE AND UTTER CRETINOUS BASTARD

He's also the biggest hypocrite in football. Getting almost £23K per day for doing absolutely fuck all of any use

This fraud attends five hour board meetings about which caterers to use at Cashburton, for fuck sake

[armchair]

Simeone, Pep, Mourinho, Klopp as Arsenal manager with Kroenke still the owner would use the resources available to compete.

As has been said here a million times, Wenger cant motivate, cant instill a winning mentality, doesnt do defence, doesnt do tactics, has no in game management, embraces failure (ie:-top four trophy), overpays poor signings, is too cowardly and stingy to go all out to succeed, is way to comfortable.

With the infastructure and resources Wenger has available I reckon any of the above managers would have done much better in terms of competing and there would be no more AKB or WOB and definitely no Kroenke hate as the money that hes made available for transfers would actually be spent.

Anyone who calls me a moron for pointing this out is in fact, a moron.

[Kvltman]

http://www.football365.com/news/footbal ... qui-oatley

Reading this I was hoping for a mention of the Wenger interview from a couple of years ago but there was none that I could see in the article or comments. Here it is again just in case anyone would like to watch him squirm under pressure from some direct questioning (hasn't happened much since!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_yu3EYWnjM

It's hard to believe we are discussing the same failings from many years past. 2 weeks from the start of the season and gaping holes in the squad.

[xisstential]

Heard a snatch of something on Talk Sport on my way home as they were breezing thru transfer news. Apparently we are in for, either a centre half or striker (??) who has a release clause of £42m. We offered 25. Gough just laughed, said "there you go then" and moved swiftly on........

We are a laughing stock. Wenger is sly, cunning almost.... when the big clubs hammer us Wenger will point to the money they spent. But HE WON'T spend it, because even if he does he knows he will still fail. And then there really will be nowhere to hide.

[armchair]

Wenger was instrumental in letting RVP leave but crucially allowed him to go to Man U and win them the league. He did the deal directly with Fergie.
Wasnt Kroenke or Gazidis Fergie rang up to do the deal. No it was Wenger.

Since then despite all the money made available to hIm for squad improvement, Wenger has stIll not replaced RVP.
Its not up to Kroenke to know that Giroud isnt gonna fire us to titles, is too slow and misses too many chances is it? Its Wenger who sold a top striker to a rival and didnt adequately replace him.

Stole this off the net but its just another indication of Wengers incompetence/arrogance/stubborness

[StuartL]

Heard a snatch of something on Talk Sport on my way home as they were breezing thru transfer news. Apparently we are in for, either a centre half or striker (??) who has a release clause of £42m. We offered 25. Gough just laughed, said "there you go then" and moved swiftly on........

We are a laughing stock. Wenger is sly, cunning almost.... when the big clubs hammer us Wenger will point to the money they spent. But HE WON'T spend it, because even if he does he knows he will still fail. And then there really will be nowhere to hide.

Absolutely, it's his last hiding place to deflect the blame, if he spends the resources we have, it all come down to his mismanagement.

[OneBardGooner]

The cun.t thread is full up wiv cun.ts at the moment - So I may as well say it over here.




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[Redarmy]

Wenger was instrumental in letting RVP leave but crucially allowed him to go to Man U and win them the league. He did the deal directly with Fergie.
Wasnt Kroenke or Gazidis Fergie rang up to do the deal. No it was Wenger.

Since then despite all the money made available to hIm for squad improvement, Wenger has stIll not replaced RVP.
Its not up to Kroenke to know that Giroud isnt gonna fire us to titles, is too slow and misses too many chances is it? Its Wenger who sold a top striker to a rival and didnt adequately replace him.

Stole this off the net but its just another indication of Wengers incompetence/arrogance/stubborness

Correction: sold a top striker to a rival to enable them to WIN the fucking league

[Redarmy]

Wenger said: “You look at the cheques that everybody signs and it’s quite scary. That’s what the Premier League is about at the moment.”

Season not yet started squad in total disarray, massive issues not addressed and our leader is sending out the message that he is scared????

This is the guy on 8 Million a year....where is that AKB to please respond to that??

[augie]

The cun.t thread is full up wiv cun.ts at the moment - So I may as well say it over here.




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The c.unt thread should have been closed down the minute somebody put this w*nker on it - everybody is different I suppose, and I accept that there are those that wont c.unt him out cos of past achievements, but for me he is fast approaching the level of cuntdom reserved for w*nkers like sheringham, roy keane etc

[OneBardGooner]

Couldn't agree more.


Ergo: Wenger is a C.U.N.T

[OneBardGooner]

I Concur

[OneBardGooner]

And I concur with my concurring.

[Nos89]

To be fair to Wenger he doesn't bang on about his past achievements. I rarely see an interview where he talks about the Invincibles. He might drop in the top 4 finishes in the last 20 years to show his consistency.
Unlike Maureen he doesn't use past glory to justify his current position.
Maybe, as someone suggested it is the fans who are living on past glory and not the club.
We've got to remember we are the only club in football league history that has had a 20 year run of consistently finishing in the top 4 of the top league. It will end, and we will look back on the days when we used to play CL every season and finish in the top 4. Enjoy it while we can cos it won't last forever.

SO FUCKING WHAT

Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool have all won it during that time - Man City, Chelsea and Utd will probably win it before us while Wenker fiddles with his zip.

Don't you think that is a remarkable run of consistency, no matter how poor our squad has been?
I'm pointing out it won't last forever. When we drop down and consistently finish 7th - 10th then we will actually start missing the CL days...