THE WENGER THREAD

[Redarmy]

There is a difference between 'going to extra-ordinary lengths to listen to every word ' someone says and 'listening in the hope that some cluelesscunt who lives in a world of illusion and treats the fans with utter disdain by lying and changing his (flawed) stories whenever it suits his purpose' in the "HOPE" that he just may eother have woken out of his self-induced delusional coma - or Surpise us all and "Resign".

But hey what do I know...other than your posts seem to be seeking to support him and criticise those that do not and rightly voice their opposition, bewilderment and utter disdain for someone who has clearly mis-led them whilst taking the club further down the road to failure with each passing season, preferring to place Profit ahead of Trophies.

Wouldn't life be boring if there wasn't an argument from another point of view, after all there is a right for someone to post an opinion in opposition to the "hate Wenger" brigade. I don't understand the hatred for the guy, he's coasting in a well paid job delivering targets set by his bosses. I'd put more blame on Kronke, Gazides and the rest of the board to demand at least one title per season.

You're an AKB, you always have been, you just go about it in a cowardly way because you haven't got the balls to come on here and support him out & out.

What did you say the other day.... about how we would look back one day and miss all the CL nights and the years of qualification. So right there you just assume that whoever takes over from the "Great Man" will never get little old Arsenal into the CL. Because only Arsene can pull that off right?? He just can't actually compete in it, lets discuss that shall we??

You make so many assumptions in that statement I'm surprised you're not a Liverpool supporter.
At some point our run in the top 4 will end, with or without Wenger in charge. I'm not a coward as I'm not an AKB...I just like reminding so called supporters on here of our current status as a top 4 team. Utd, chelski, Liverpool are not top 4 teams, they're top 6 at best. Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe. Consistent top 4, consistent last 16. Should we be better... absolutely. Top 2 and consistent last 4 in CL. The board don't challenge Wenger to do any better, so he's just delivering what he is targeted to do. He's just doing his job.

Can't agree with that. The game is about winning trophies, not the "status" of qualifying for comps or finishing in the top 4. What's so great about being "consistent" runners up? I read that as consistent losers tbh.

Look at the success of Manure, the Chav, and compare it to us, since we last won the PL;

Manure; 5 PL, 2 FA cups, 1 CL
Chav: 4 PL, 4 FA cup, 1 CL, 1 Europa League
The Arsenal: 3 FA cups.

I personally would trade every single top 4 finish, every single CL qualification for either of Manure's or the Chav's trophy hauls over the last 12 years.

Watching the last 16 of the champions league the last 5/6 years has been humiliating, cant see any glory in that

[armchair]

Who is saying that? that's a view I've not really heard before. Absolving Wenger of blame is pretty fucked up even for the biggest of window lickers! twitter I'm asuming?

Just a small recent sample for ya mate.
You're welcome

For the record I think Wenger has lost the plot and this will be a very bad end to his career. I still think Arsenal will continue to underspend with Kronke in control though.

Wenger is doing exactly what Kronke wants him to.

Just wait until Wenger leaves and the next manager does not compete in the transfer market. Then you can still say Kronke is blameless.

[Wilson]

Trying to come up with the team to play Liverpool this week.

Rob Holding and Callum Chambers at centre half? Walcott or Chuba Akpom as striker?

Wouldnt read to much into beating Man City. In fact, they have prepared just as poorly as we have. They are a dodgy defence with many ageing players, and look lost without Kompany.

Liverpool at home then Leicester away - we could be 6 points behind only two weeks in.

Wenger and the board just dont take winning seriously enough.

[BFG4]

Olympiakos have been eliminated from the qualifiers of the CL, so our annual dead rubber in December has been cancelled.

Devastating news. Just... devastating.

Cheer up DB we could be playing Dundalk..Are there any Gooners from Dundalk on this forum?

I live 10 minutes from Dundalk. I'm hoping they reach the group stages.

[DB10GOONER]

Olympiakos have been eliminated from the qualifiers of the CL, so our annual dead rubber in December has been cancelled.

Devastating news. Just... devastating.

Cheer up DB we could be playing Dundalk..Are there any Gooners from Dundalk on this forum?

I live 10 minutes from Dundalk. I'm hoping they reach the group stages.

That's fucking Drogheda you live in!!

[Swifty]

Wenger has questioned Zlatan's age and his capacity to be a great player this year.

Nothing like giving Zlatan motivation to put 3 past us in our first meeting. He is the bargain buy of the decade. He's arrogant because he's earned it - paid for his wages and half the teams just in shirt sales already and WILL score 20+ premiership goals. Wenger is an imbecile.

He is a good financial signing because he will sell shirts certainly. But he won't score 20+ PL goals. He's past that stage in his career, particularly given the pace and physicality of the PL.

Can't agree DB - a big lump with ball skills, power, confidence and even martial arts skill - he's born for this league. 20+ goals plus from 38 - guaranteed. He scores and wins everywhere he goes.

[Redarmy]

Mr Wenger on retirement.....

“It’s been my life and, honestly, I’m quite scared of the day,” Wenger says. “The longer I wait, the more difficult it will be and the more difficult it will be to lose the addiction.

“After Alex retired and we played them over there [at Manchester United] he sent a message to me to come up and have a drink with him. I asked: ‘Do you miss it?’ He said: ‘Not at all.’ I didn’t understand that. It’s an emptiness in your life, especially when you’ve lived your whole life waiting for the next game and trying to win it.”

Wenger’s comments appear to indicate he might want to work beyond his present contract, which expires at the end of the season, but for now he faces the considerable challenge of trying to win Arsenal’s first league title since 2004 without a massive outlay in the transfer market.

Interesting.....

[DB10GOONER]

Wenger has questioned Zlatan's age and his capacity to be a great player this year.

Nothing like giving Zlatan motivation to put 3 past us in our first meeting. He is the bargain buy of the decade. He's arrogant because he's earned it - paid for his wages and half the teams just in shirt sales already and WILL score 20+ premiership goals. Wenger is an imbecile.

He is a good financial signing because he will sell shirts certainly. But he won't score 20+ PL goals. He's past that stage in his career, particularly given the pace and physicality of the PL.

Can't agree DB - a big lump with ball skills, power, confidence and even martial arts skill - he's born for this league. 20+ goals plus from 38 - guaranteed. He scores and wins everywhere he goes.

Maybe if he had come to the PL 5 years ago. Also, his "power and strength" is a bit of a myth, especially now days - he was schooled by two shit Oirish CH's in the Euros ffs!

And then look at where's he played; Holland, Spain, Italy and France. Anyone can look strong in France or Spain or Italy. All soft as shite leagues where the merest contact is often punished by overly strict referees that are used to, and accepting of, the diving culture. The PL is a different ball game where reputations count for nothing to CH's at places like Stoke and Hull, and his ego won't take well to getting clattered every week.

His scoring record isn't exactly 20+ league goals a season everywhere he went either.

He never reached 20 at Ajax.
Never reached 20 at Juve.
Only reached 20+ once at Inter.
Never reached 20 at Barca (before he had a strop and fell out with Pep because Pep didn't suck his arse enough).
Only reached 20+ once at Milan.
And with PSG in the shit weak French league he hit 20+ three times (I could score 20+ in France playing for PSG ffs).

In a 19 year career he has only ever hit 20+ league goals FIVE times - and that in less demanding leagues than the PL, FOUR of those times in France when it coincided with PSG being the only money team in the league.

And now at the ripe old age of 34 he's suddenly gonna take to the tougher PL like a fish to water? Really? Unless they let him take the pennos I'd be surprised if he hits 20+ PL goals. Again, not saying he won't score (and a few of them will be spectacular) and not saying he won't score a vital goal in a vital game, but I honestly don't see him having 20+ in him (without pennos ).

Oh, and he's a cock.

[Nos89]

[quote="OneBardGooner"
I just like reminding so called supporters on here of our current status as a top 4 team. Utd, chelski, Liverpool are not top 4 teams, they're top 6 at best. Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe. Consistent top 4, consistent last 16. Should we be better... absolutely. Top 2 and consistent last 4 in CL. [/color]The board don't challenge Wenger to do any better, so he's just delivering what he is targeted to do. He's just doing his job.

Can't agree with that. The game is about winning trophies, not the "status" of qualifying for comps or finishing in the top 4. What's so great about being "consistent" runners up? I read that as consistent losers tbh.

Look at the success of Manure, the Chav, and compare it to us, since we last won the PL;

Manure; 5 PL, 2 FA cups, 1 CL
Chav: 4 PL, 4 FA cup, 1 CL, 1 Europa League
The Arsenal: 3 FA cups.

I personally would trade every single top 4 finish, every single CL qualification for either of Manure's or the Chav's trophy hauls over the last 12 years.

What are you disagreeing with?

That Arsenal are consistent? That Arsenal have finished in the top 4 for last 20 years?

Or

That Arsenal are more consistent than Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelski?

I too would have loved to see us get Chelski haul of trophies. If Ambromovic hadn't come over here with money and ambition, we would've had a different set of results but we can't change history, we're not quite North Korea.

[DB10GOONER]

[quote="OneBardGooner"
I just like reminding so called supporters on here of our current status as a top 4 team. Utd, chelski, Liverpool are not top 4 teams, they're top 6 at best. Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe. Consistent top 4, consistent last 16. Should we be better... absolutely. Top 2 and consistent last 4 in CL. [/color]The board don't challenge Wenger to do any better, so he's just delivering what he is targeted to do. He's just doing his job.

Can't agree with that. The game is about winning trophies, not the "status" of qualifying for comps or finishing in the top 4. What's so great about being "consistent" runners up? I read that as consistent losers tbh.

Look at the success of Manure, the Chav, and compare it to us, since we last won the PL;

Manure; 5 PL, 2 FA cups, 1 CL
Chav: 4 PL, 4 FA cup, 1 CL, 1 Europa League
The Arsenal: 3 FA cups.

I personally would trade every single top 4 finish, every single CL qualification for either of Manure's or the Chav's trophy hauls over the last 12 years.

What are you disagreeing with?

That Arsenal are consistent? That Arsenal have finished in the top 4 for last 20 years?

Or

That Arsenal are more consistent than Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelski?

I too would have loved to see us get Chelski haul of trophies. If Ambromovic hadn't come over here with money and ambition, we would've had a different set of results but we can't change history, we're not quite North Korea.

I'm disagreeing with your statement that "Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe". You are basically saying finishing (for example) fourth 12 times is better than winning the PL 4 or 5 times over the same period because that somehow shows a level of "consistency"? WTF? That shows a consistent level of not being good enough to win it, that's all that shows.

[Nos89]

Can't agree with that. The game is about winning trophies, not the "status" of qualifying for comps or finishing in the top 4. What's so great about being "consistent" runners up? I read that as consistent losers tbh.

Look at the success of Manure, the Chav, and compare it to us, since we last won the PL;

Manure; 5 PL, 2 FA cups, 1 CL
Chav: 4 PL, 4 FA cup, 1 CL, 1 Europa League
The Arsenal: 3 FA cups.

I personally would trade every single top 4 finish, every single CL qualification for either of Manure's or the Chav's trophy hauls over the last 12 years.

What are you disagreeing with?

That Arsenal are consistent? That Arsenal have finished in the top 4 for last 20 years?

Or

That Arsenal are more consistent than Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelski?

I too would have loved to see us get Chelski haul of trophies. If Ambromovic hadn't come over here with money and ambition, we would've had a different set of results but we can't change history, we're not quite North Korea.

I'm disagreeing with your statement that "Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe". You are basically saying finishing (for example) fourth 12 times is better than winning the PL 4 or 5 times over the same period because that somehow shows a level of "consistency"? WTF? That shows a consistent level of not being good enough to win it, that's all that shows.

True, that we are consistently not good enough to win, which is the most important part of football.
But we have been more consistent then the other 3 in maintaining our league position and our CL qualification status. Doesn't count for much if we're not winning it. But at least we're getting the chance too.

[Gunner Rob]

What are you disagreeing with?

That Arsenal are consistent? That Arsenal have finished in the top 4 for last 20 years?

Or

That Arsenal are more consistent than Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelski?

I too would have loved to see us get Chelski haul of trophies. If Ambromovic hadn't come over here with money and ambition, we would've had a different set of results but we can't change history, we're not quite North Korea.

I'm disagreeing with your statement that "Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe". You are basically saying finishing (for example) fourth 12 times is better than winning the PL 4 or 5 times over the same period because that somehow shows a level of "consistency"? WTF? That shows a consistent level of not being good enough to win it, that's all that shows.

True, that we are consistently not good enough to win, which is the most important part of football.
But we have been more consistent then the other 3 in maintaining our league position and our CL qualification status. Doesn't count for much if we're not winning it. But at least we're getting the chance too.

yes every season WE GET THE CHANCE and every season WE DO NOT TAKE THAT CHANCE !!!!

[IW8Goalmachine]

What are you disagreeing with?

That Arsenal are consistent? That Arsenal have finished in the top 4 for last 20 years?

Or

That Arsenal are more consistent than Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelski?

I too would have loved to see us get Chelski haul of trophies. If Ambromovic hadn't come over here with money and ambition, we would've had a different set of results but we can't change history, we're not quite North Korea.

I'm disagreeing with your statement that "Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe". You are basically saying finishing (for example) fourth 12 times is better than winning the PL 4 or 5 times over the same period because that somehow shows a level of "consistency"? WTF? That shows a consistent level of not being good enough to win it, that's all that shows.

True, that we are consistently not good enough to win, which is the most important part of football.
But we have been more consistent then the other 3 in maintaining our league position and our CL qualification status. Doesn't count for much if we're not winning it. But at least we're getting the chance too.

That is without doubt one of the most ridiculous statements I've read on this forum.

[mcdowell42]

What are you disagreeing with?

That Arsenal are consistent? That Arsenal have finished in the top 4 for last 20 years?

Or

That Arsenal are more consistent than Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelski?

I too would have loved to see us get Chelski haul of trophies. If Ambromovic hadn't come over here with money and ambition, we would've had a different set of results but we can't change history, we're not quite North Korea.

I'm disagreeing with your statement that "Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe". You are basically saying finishing (for example) fourth 12 times is better than winning the PL 4 or 5 times over the same period because that somehow shows a level of "consistency"? WTF? That shows a consistent level of not being good enough to win it, that's all that shows.

True, that we are consistently not good enough to win, which is the most important part of football.
But we have been more consistent then the other 3 in maintaining our league position and our CL qualification status. Doesn't count for much if we're not winning it. But at least we're getting the chance too.

That is without doubt one of the most ridiculous statements I've read on this forum.

You should go have a read of the Spuds thread there are few hum dingers on there.

[DB10GOONER]

What are you disagreeing with?

That Arsenal are consistent? That Arsenal have finished in the top 4 for last 20 years?

Or

That Arsenal are more consistent than Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelski?

I too would have loved to see us get Chelski haul of trophies. If Ambromovic hadn't come over here with money and ambition, we would've had a different set of results but we can't change history, we're not quite North Korea.

I'm disagreeing with your statement that "Arsenal are a better, more consistent performing club domestically and in Europe". You are basically saying finishing (for example) fourth 12 times is better than winning the PL 4 or 5 times over the same period because that somehow shows a level of "consistency"? WTF? That shows a consistent level of not being good enough to win it, that's all that shows.

True, that we are consistently not good enough to win, which is the most important part of football.
But we have been more consistent then the other 3 in maintaining our league position and our CL qualification status. Doesn't count for much if we're not winning it. But at least we're getting the chance too.

That is without doubt one of the most ridiculous statements I've read on this forum.

You should go have a read of the Spuds thread there are few hum dingers on there.

If you don't mind;

I said Spuds were clearly a superior team to us, and that they're no longer the bottlers we've always known. It was obvious they'd finish ahead of us yet the denial persisted.