THE WENGER THREAD

[greengooner]

How is this bloke still your manager?!

because we have a load of wankers as fans......

We're not the only club with a load of wankers as fans either

[xisstential]

How is this bloke still your manager?!

Because he still wants to be, simple as that.

[Belfast Boy]

I'll never agree with that shit. VanJudasCunt deserved every bit of abuse he got. That fucking piece of shit lay on our treatment table for the best part of 9 years and NEVER ONCE questioned the club's ambition or wanted to leave - whilst being paid, what, close on 100K a week?? Why didn't he question the club's ambition during that time? We were in the duldrums throughout most of that period. Why not question the club then? Because no one would have signed the injury-prone prick.

Then he has that one great season and SUDDENLY he now has the fucking cheek to question the club's ambition??? Like he had been contributing season after season of huge effort?? Are you fucking joking?? Fuck that. If any cúnt owed the club loyalty, the club that paid him MILLIONS whilst he sat on his fucking arse, the club that didn't cut him loose when no one would have signed him, then it was that Judas cúnt. And we should now act like he did it for us? Like he was morally right in what he did? No fucking way. Cut that shit out right there.

This is in no way a defence of Wenger before any idiot tries that on - this is purely a criticism of the cúnt VanJudas. The Wenger hatred (whilst totally understandable and justified in itself) can get ridiculous on here in the way it provokes some of the stuff posted. Using just any old stick to beat Wenger just cheapens the argument against him.

I have no problem with players leaving, no problem really with the fact 99% of modern players are selfish mercenary cúnts - that's the modern game, like it or not - but I do have a problem with people lauding a treacherous cúnt like VanJudas as if what he did was morally right. Get a grip on yourselves ffs.

A lesser mod (Spuddy, REB, or g88ner) would ban the three of you!

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[Nos89]

How is this bloke still your manager?!

Because Arsenal FC doesn't exist anymore. It is now and has been for 10 years a business operation. Wenger maintains a consistent and profitable team, keeping the share holders happy. Customer satisfaction has declined but when has that ever got a senior business partner the sack, whilst revenue consistently increases year on year?
It's that simple really.
Another reason is that no top manager who wants to win titles both domestically or in Europe will ever come to Arsenal whilst this board is in situ. So, all these supporters claiming we will do better without Wenger as we'll get a top manager who will buy the players and coach them into winners, need to think again. If we can't attract Vardy from Leicester, do we really think we can attract one of the world greats managers? Not a chance in hell with the constraints they will be working under.

[markyp]

How is this bloke still your manager?!

Because Arsenal FC doesn't exist anymore. It is now and has been for 10 years a business operation. Wenger maintains a consistent and profitable team, keeping the share holders happy. Customer satisfaction has declined but when has that ever got a senior business partner the sack, whilst revenue consistently increases year on year?
It's that simple really.
Another reason is that no top manager who wants to win titles both domestically or in Europe will ever come to Arsenal whilst this board is in situ. So, all these supporters claiming we will do better without Wenger as we'll get a top manager who will buy the players and coach them into winners, need to think again. If we can't attract Vardy from Leicester, do we really think we can attract one of the world greats managers? Not a chance in hell with the constraints they will be working under.

that's bollox,we are currently fucked because of one man,Wenger wont spend the money,its there,yes gazidis and wiggy are lady parts but its all down to wenger,not only is the lack of money spent an issue but wenger is cluelss tactically,so there we have it in a nut shell a clueless manager on and off the pitch,a good manager would sort out the teams deficiencies right away,you don't even have to pay 89 for a player,just the right players(wanyama springs to mind) and assemble them correctly and motivate them which is something wenger is uncapable of or hadn't you noticed.you make it sound like Arsenal is broken and cant be mended,as soon as wenger fucks off we will be great again,and as for who will want to manage arsenal believe me there will be a queue around the block

[DB10GOONER]

How is this bloke still your manager?!

Because Arsenal FC doesn't exist anymore. It is now and has been for 10 years a business operation. Wenger maintains a consistent and profitable team, keeping the share holders happy. Customer satisfaction has declined but when has that ever got a senior business partner the sack, whilst revenue consistently increases year on year?
It's that simple really.
Another reason is that no top manager who wants to win titles both domestically or in Europe will ever come to Arsenal whilst this board is in situ. So, all these supporters claiming we will do better without Wenger as we'll get a top manager who will buy the players and coach them into winners, need to think again. If we can't attract Vardy from Leicester, do we really think we can attract one of the world greats managers? Not a chance in hell with the constraints they will be working under.

Whilst I agree we are now just a business, I disagree that we could not attract a top manager. What real constraints does Wenger work under? He has the dream job; deliver the bare minimum with zero chance of being sacked. The board have said there is money for him to strengthen the team but he chooses not to spend it, so a new manager is unlikely to struggle financially if he wants to buy. One of the few true and non-retarded things to come out of Moronhio's mouth was the comment about Wenger having the dream job. There's no pressure on Wenger to win the PL or CL from the board. All he has to do is deliver the bare minimum and take his millions to the bank. £22,000 a day to deliver fuck all? What manager wouldn't like that?

My ONLY real problems with the board are they have no footballing ambition (unless as a secondary concern to profit and business shit) and they set a shit example that is repeated throughout the club at all levels - and the fact they won't do their job and sack our underperforming (in the proper football sense) manager Arsene Wenger.

[DB10GOONER]

Not much about modern Arsenal really angers me anymore - I feel more a sense of hopeless despondency... but Wenger's "not ready" comment is still boiling my piss. How can we not be ready? Why didn't he can the Euro's punditry and spend that time getting us ready?

Imagine your boss asking why the high-profile multi-million pound project he handed you went tits up and you answering; "Well, we weren't ready. I spent the last month or so working for another company and didn't have time to get our thing ready." That would be a sacking right the fuck there.

We weren't ready.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

[begeegs]

More lies and incompetence from our beloved....

"It is a curious edict and one Wenger first tried to explain in 2011. He argued in April of that year the “rules from Fifa are that you have to give four weeks holiday to a player, it is compulsory — and I always do it”.

There was no such rule. Uefa confirmed to Standard Sport there were also no regulations regarding player rest following Euro 2016. "

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 22181.html

[DB10GOONER]

More lies and incompetence from our beloved....

"It is a curious edict and one Wenger first tried to explain in 2011. He argued in April of that year the “rules from Fifa are that you have to give four weeks holiday to a player, it is compulsory — and I always do it”.

There was no such rule. Uefa confirmed to Standard Sport there were also no regulations regarding player rest following Euro 2016. "

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 22181.html

That really is an eye-opening article. The old fraud has been "economical" with the truth again!

One of the most telling comments was at the end;

"The slightly muddled thinking here is symptomatic of a manager who continues to try and run almost every aspect of a club with a board willing to cede control yet unwilling to correct his mistakes. This issue of rest is symptomatic of much more."

[Redarmy]

Not much about modern Arsenal really angers me anymore - I feel more a sense of hopeless despondency... but Wenger's "not ready" comment is still boiling my piss. How can we not be ready? Why didn't he can the Euro's punditry and spend that time getting us ready?

Imagine your boss asking why the high-profile multi-million pound project he handed you went tits up and you answering; "Well, we weren't ready. I spent the last month or so working for another company and didn't have time to get our thing ready." That would be a sacking right the fuck there.

We weren't ready.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

now your at the boiling piss stage...not too far to catch me up in the local hospital ward

As you comment above it is a totally amazing state of affairs

[Derek Acorah]

My two cents for what it's worth:

Arsenal really need to finishing 5th or below for changes to definitely be demanded. If Arsenal achieve 4th, 3rd or 2nd again this season then it keeps everyone in charge happy and a lot of your fanbase.

I've never understood this fascination with CL football UNLESS you have the squad to win it. What's the point in being in it if you're always going to get knocked out as soon as you meet a Barcelona/Real Madrid/Bayern Munich type side?

As a United fan I actually want to see you lot back to your best because I enjoy the rivalry and it makes the league interesting. But, like us (Man Utd), you have been nowhere near where you should be ON the pitch considering the size of Arsenal FC for a long, long time.

It won't change untill Wenger retires, most sane people can see that. What I don't get is, surely Wenger knows he's doing a sh*t job now? Hasn't he got any pride?

If it was me I'd step down for the sake of the fans. His legacy will be forever tarnished now. He won't be remembered as the man who won league titles in the early 00s, he will be remembered as that stubborn old fool who considered finishing in the top 4 a 'trophy'.

[Gunner Rob]

yes spot on Derek.

it is somewhat embarrassing that you can see what needs to happen whereas the (still majority) of the Arsenal fanbase cant.

in a way Man united have not helped matters in the previous few seasons. The fact that you have done badly with new managers has meant a lot of Arsenal fans say "be careful what you wish for" and look what happens when you get rid of a long term manager.

they fail to acknowledge that United have actually in the last few years since Ferguson achieved pretty much the same as Arsenal have since we last won the title in 2004.


the top 4 finishes have actually been terrible for the club - in hindsight if only we had failed on some of those last day famous victories to secure 4th we might now view things a bit differently. the one thing an AKB holds on to is this 20 years consecutive CL nonsense.
the trouble is that it is a lot harder to get out of the CL than get back into it (as United have found out) and you would still back Arsenal to finish in the top 4 rather than out of it. On we go....

[rodders999]

He was spouting pretty much the same BS after the opening day debacle against West Ham last season, claiming they were further prepared than us because they had played a game or 2 in the Europa league qualifiers before the league started

Yeah they had played a game against Sparta Spud Pickers FC which gave them such a massive advantage over us, again we were "not ready".

Not ready!!!!! Well I tell ya one thing we are most definitely ready for sunshine and that is for you to F OFF out the door and never come back.

CRETIN

[DB10GOONER]

Mouser fans are obsessed with CL football - to them it really is the be-all and end-all. I know a good few Oirish (and a couple Ingerlish) Mouser fans (ST holders, followed their club since childhood, genuine match-going fans) and they simply cannot understand how I don't view CL qualification as success in itself. Probably because they have not qualified for it many times over the last 20 odd years?? I dunno.

For me the CL is indicative of the overblown nonsense of much of the modern game; too much televised coverage of too many poor quality games with 24hr media coverage reaching saturation point and quantity far far outweighing quality. I very seldom enjoy watching CL games; the diving and feigning injury and general cuntiness from players reaches a new level of embarrassing far too often.

AKB's use the 20 years of CL qualification as a defence of Wenger, but really, what type of "achievement" is it? To (often) scrape into the qualification places (sometimes 20 points behind the PL winners) and then scrape our way out of the group stages, and then get easily beaten (sometimes humiliated) by the first decent side we meet?

Fuck that. I took far far more pleasure out of both FA Cup wins in '14 and '15 then out of anything the CL has ever thrown at me.

[xisstential]

How is this bloke still your manager?!

Because Arsenal FC doesn't exist anymore. It is now and has been for 10 years a business operation. Wenger maintains a consistent and profitable team, keeping the share holders happy. Customer satisfaction has declined but when has that ever got a senior business partner the sack, whilst revenue consistently increases year on year?
It's that simple really.
Another reason is that no top manager who wants to win titles both domestically or in Europe will ever come to Arsenal whilst this board is in situ. So, all these supporters claiming we will do better without Wenger as we'll get a top manager who will buy the players and coach them into winners, need to think again. If we can't attract Vardy from Leicester, do we really think we can attract one of the world greats managers? Not a chance in hell with the constraints they will be working under.

There you go again......You always do this, support Wenger in a backhanded way. I wish you would have the balls to come out and say that you support him unconditionally instead of constantly making excuses for him. Here once again is the intimation that it is not the manager who is the problem, but the board who has constraints on him. In reality it is the other way around... Wenger is Kroenke's boy, he does his masters bidding, and the board submit to Wenger, not the other way around.

We cannot attract players because I believe players have finally woken up to the fact that Wenger puts profit before trophy's and they will NEVER win anything at Arsenal. It's not attracting a new manager (hell we cannot even get rid of the one we have) that is the problem, the problem is no decent player wants to play for WENGER. And Wenger has helped shape and create the board that HE wants. Once Wenger goes EVERYTHING will change. I concede that Kroenke is a total prat as well, but WENGER has created the culture that is at Arsenal today.