The ''no one is coming'' Transfer Thread

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BFG4 wrote:http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... ky-Germany

I'm disappointed, I thought he showed enough at the Olympics that we should keep him.
Hope he proves the old prune wrong and becomes a world beater.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
BFG4 wrote:On Twitter last night, the amount of fans who lost their shit over Wilshere going on loan, really surprised me. The guy brings new meaning to the phrase 'injury prone'. Had he stayed, it would be inevitable he would pick up some sort of season ending injury.
I can see Wilshere signing for worst ham tbh. They are the club he supports.
Can see playing at Everton myself.

What's the story with the other two signings? Is Wenger even dithering about when to release the finished deals to the press

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nut flush gooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
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Ehhhh ???? I think you are getting a bit muddled up here. The number ten generally plays in the hole behind the striker, so of course he isn't expected to carry the lion share of the goals. Confusion city this morning in interpretations.

With regards to the players I have listed, don't forget when we where are Highbury we signed some very good established players Overmars, Henry, Bergkamp, Petit, Campbell the list goes on. That coupled with the ability to source some of the best up and coming world stars eg Anelka, RVP etc made us a force in English/European football.

Today we are swimming in money, yet our benchmark is the likes of Giroud or even Perez? I cannot and will not accept that.

If David Dein was still at the club, we wouldn't be looking for a 4th or 5th choice striker we would have signed Griezmann, Higuain or Lacazette early on in the window, with minimal fuss. Despite spending £100m this summer, I don't feel the buzz I used to when some of the signings I have listed above where made.
In a flexible 4-4-2 the second striker doesn't automatically have to be the classic number 10.

I absolutely agree about the club's ambition but that's a separate discussion really. I'm quite pragmatic in these things. We have Giroud. For whatever reason, Wenger has and will persist with him. My only points in this discussion are he is not totally shit - he is at best average, at worst gash - but we should be using him more effectively.
Ahh flexible 442 you mean the one that reverts to 433 or 451 as and when the players feel like it ;). Seriously though the reason 442 became defunct is because teams started playing 5 in midfield causing an issue with numbers.

Also for 442 to survive you need 2 central midfielders that can play and get stuck in, we had that in the past. Today there is not one player in our squad (and I include le coq and elneny) that seriously knows how to look after themselves and their team mates.
Yep. The best flexible 4-4-2's do just that, but only when the situation calls for it, not just when the players feel like it. It has to be disciplined as well as flexible. Being able to drop a player back into midfield (or indeed a defender forward into midfield) easily negates the "4-5-1 gets over-run in midfield" theory. Look at Leicester, Watford, Athletico Madrid, Iceland, for recent examples of what a well-drilled, flexible 4-4-2 can achieve.

I don't agree we haven't got the players to play it. We don't have a manager or coaching staff that can coach the discipline and flexibility into the players. :|
Leicester had Kante/Drinkwater, Athletico you know what you are getting with Simeone and his preferences for Central Midfielders the same with Watford and Iceland they play a brand of football that AW will never consider. Someone like Pogba would be good in a 442, we have no one that fits the bill and we would get spit roasted with any combination of our current available Central Midfielders playing that formation.
You seem to think the game is still an epic physical battle in midfield. It isn't, certainly nowhere near the extent it was back in the 1970s and 1980s or even back in the 1990s-early2000s. It's now more about pace, mobility and aggressive attacking. You'll find central midfielders that get "stuck in" can be a liability through free kicks conceded and bookings - hello Alex Hollywood Tackle Song! The game has changed and once a player is fit and disciplined, with the right coaching, most can play 4-4-2. The reason it was so popular for so long is because it is relatively straight forward and simple enough to coach into players. We have players that could play a flexible 4-4-2. Ramsey in particular would be more effective in a 4-4-2 and, with a little coaching, would be less inclined to get bogged down in his flicks and backheels - some of which I can't help but think are caused by our stagnant 4-5-1 tippy tappy system, as well as obviously Wenger's idiotic "just go play your game" mantra.

When you mention a "brand of football that AW will never consider" I take it you mean purely the way they pass, and not 4-4-2 in general, because you know Wenger played 4-4-2 with us for the majority of his Arsenal managerial career up until circa 2008/2009 - coincidentally his most successful period with us.

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
BFG4 wrote:On Twitter last night, the amount of fans who lost their shit over Wilshere going on loan, really surprised me. The guy brings new meaning to the phrase 'injury prone'. Had he stayed, it would be inevitable he would pick up some sort of season ending injury.
I can see Wilshere signing for worst ham tbh. They are the club he supports.
Can see playing at Everton myself.

What's the story with the other two signings? Is Wenger even dithering about when to release the finished deals to the press
I get the feeling that the club are going to announce it tomorrow, so they can claim they did some deadline day Business. I can hear that cringey bastard Jim White saying "Big news coming from the Emirates" :suicide:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
In a flexible 4-4-2 the second striker doesn't automatically have to be the classic number 10.

I absolutely agree about the club's ambition but that's a separate discussion really. I'm quite pragmatic in these things. We have Giroud. For whatever reason, Wenger has and will persist with him. My only points in this discussion are he is not totally shit - he is at best average, at worst gash - but we should be using him more effectively.
Ahh flexible 442 you mean the one that reverts to 433 or 451 as and when the players feel like it ;). Seriously though the reason 442 became defunct is because teams started playing 5 in midfield causing an issue with numbers.

Also for 442 to survive you need 2 central midfielders that can play and get stuck in, we had that in the past. Today there is not one player in our squad (and I include le coq and elneny) that seriously knows how to look after themselves and their team mates.
Yep. The best flexible 4-4-2's do just that, but only when the situation calls for it, not just when the players feel like it. It has to be disciplined as well as flexible. Being able to drop a player back into midfield (or indeed a defender forward into midfield) easily negates the "4-5-1 gets over-run in midfield" theory. Look at Leicester, Watford, Athletico Madrid, Iceland, for recent examples of what a well-drilled, flexible 4-4-2 can achieve.

I don't agree we haven't got the players to play it. We don't have a manager or coaching staff that can coach the discipline and flexibility into the players. :|
Leicester had Kante/Drinkwater, Athletico you know what you are getting with Simeone and his preferences for Central Midfielders the same with Watford and Iceland they play a brand of football that AW will never consider. Someone like Pogba would be good in a 442, we have no one that fits the bill and we would get spit roasted with any combination of our current available Central Midfielders playing that formation.
You seem to think the game is still an epic physical battle in midfield. It isn't, certainly nowhere near the extent it was back in the 1970s and 1980s or even back in the 1990s-early2000s. It's now more about pace, mobility and aggressive attacking. You'll find central midfielders that get "stuck in" can be a liability through free kicks conceded and bookings - hello Alex Hollywood Tackle Song! The game has changed and once a player is fit and disciplined, with the right coaching, most can play 4-4-2. The reason it was so popular for so long is because it is relatively straight forward and simple enough to coach into players. We have players that could play a flexible 4-4-2. Ramsey in particular would be more effective in a 4-4-2 and, with a little coaching, would be less inclined to get bogged down in his flicks and backheels - some of which I can't help but think are caused by our stagnant 4-5-1 tippy tappy system, as well as obviously Wenger's idiotic "just go play your game" mantra.

When you mention a "brand of football that AW will never consider" I take it you mean purely the way they pass, and not 4-4-2 in general, because you know Wenger played 4-4-2 with us for the majority of his Arsenal managerial career up until circa 2008/2009 - coincidentally his most successful period with us.
It is a battle in midfield when you set up 4 players to play 5. Viera had deceptive pace and mobility Petit again not as quick but certainly mobile. Both those players would thrive in a modern day Arsenal side because they are miles better than what we have at present.

Today looking across the premiership there doesn't seem to be any hard men that I can instantly think of, that doesn't mean that players who are of the same ilk as I have already mentioned wont come through the ranks and be successful.

With regards to making needless fouls we seem to do quite well at that, and goals from the subsequent free kicks. You don't need combatative midfielders to give away unnecessary free kicks.

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I think we've gone back in and low balled Valencia and Deportivo just as the deals were about to be done :lol:

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I think what IS more important than any of the rumoured signings we won't make - Is Wondering if our Nat will wear something thin and clingy or even a tad 'see thru' on Sky???? :rubchin:


Whaddya reckon Rodder's are you ready????? :D :barscarf:

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OneBardGooner wrote:I think what IS more important than any of the rumoured signings we won't make - Is Wondering if our Nat will wear something thin and clingy or even a tad 'see thru' on Sky???? :rubchin:


Whaddya reckon Rodder's are you ready????? :D :barscarf:
I was hoping this year they might stick in (so to speak) a younger bit of fluff than Nat. Even Rodders would admit she's gotten a bit battered around the edges; her hair is fairly frizzy and broken from dying it black to hide the grey, and I'd say once the tit hammock comes off those once pert bazongo's instantly drop into knee-warmer mode. :(

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OneBardGooner wrote:I think what IS more important than any of the rumoured signings we won't make - Is Wondering if our Nat will wear something thin and clingy or even a tad 'see thru' on Sky???? :rubchin:


Whaddya reckon Rodder's are you ready????? :D :barscarf:
I had promised to keep it in my undies this year but if she rocks up tomorrow with her massive milkers on full view then what choice am I left with other than to drop my drawers and go at it full pelt 8)

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rodders999 wrote:
OneBardGooner wrote:I think what IS more important than any of the rumoured signings we won't make - Is Wondering if our Nat will wear something thin and clingy or even a tad 'see thru' on Sky???? :rubchin:


Whaddya reckon Rodder's are you ready????? :D :barscarf:
I had promised to keep it in my undies this year but if she rocks up tomorrow with her massive milkers on full view then what choice am I left with other than to drop my drawers and go at it full pelt 8)
You best hope she is wearing a bra then Rodders. Otherwise those massive milkers will be hanging under the desk. :shock:

:D :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
rodders999 wrote:
OneBardGooner wrote:I think what IS more important than any of the rumoured signings we won't make - Is Wondering if our Nat will wear something thin and clingy or even a tad 'see thru' on Sky???? :rubchin:


Whaddya reckon Rodder's are you ready????? :D :barscarf:
I had promised to keep it in my undies this year but if she rocks up tomorrow with her massive milkers on full view then what choice am I left with other than to drop my drawers and go at it full pelt 8)
You best hope she is wearing a bra then Rodders. Otherwise those massive milkers will be hanging under the desk. :shock:

:D :wink:
:lol:

As you're on about younger fluff that Jo Wilson is the one to watch, lovely baps and usually wears the tightest of tight trousers that wonderfully show off the massive bulge of her voluptuous vag.

Stunning.

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rodders999 wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
rodders999 wrote:
OneBardGooner wrote:I think what IS more important than any of the rumoured signings we won't make - Is Wondering if our Nat will wear something thin and clingy or even a tad 'see thru' on Sky???? :rubchin:


Whaddya reckon Rodder's are you ready????? :D :barscarf:
I had promised to keep it in my undies this year but if she rocks up tomorrow with her massive milkers on full view then what choice am I left with other than to drop my drawers and go at it full pelt 8)
You best hope she is wearing a bra then Rodders. Otherwise those massive milkers will be hanging under the desk. :shock:

:D :wink:
:lol:

As you're on about younger fluff that Jo Wilson is the one to watch, lovely baps and usually wears the tightest of tight trousers that wonderfully show off the massive bulge of her voluptuous vag.

Stunning.

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Yes. A fine example of top quality unenhanced porn body there. Yum yum. :sex: :sex2: :the_doris_2: 8)

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Perez officially confirmed as an Arsenal player.

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DB10GOONER wrote: Yes. A fine example of top quality unenhanced porn body there. Yum yum. :sex: :sex2: :the_doris_2: 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HmLi_7B9D4

These are the type of tight pants she's normally sporting.......my eyes just become fixated on the gap between her legs......oh how I ache to fill it :oops:

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Perez deal confirmed. About fu#king time.

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