THE WENGER THREAD

[Blade]

Pennent
Bentley
Walcott
Chambers
Alex
Gibbs
jenks
Thomas
Connally
Randall
Simpson
Hoyte
Watt
Easmond
Bartley
Jay Emumnal
Jack W

All the English boys to the dustbin.

[DB10GOONER]

Pennent
Bentley
Walcott
Chambers
Alex
Gibbs
jenks
Thomas
Connally
Randall
Simpson
Hoyte
Watt
Easmond
Bartley
Jay Emumnal
Jack W

All the English boys to the dustbin.

I think you'll find an equally long (or longer) list of foreign players that Wenger has consigned to the dustbin. Maybe the problem is that Wenger hasn't a clue how to spot a truly brilliant player or a player who can fulfill his potential? Wenger's recruitment policy is much like throwing shit at a wall. Some of it may stick, but most of it will dribble down the wall...

[LaughingGooner]

Very good, if not an excellent window.
No excuses now, a squad of depth and quality.
Can't wait for the Southampton game.
Sense the atmosphere in the ground will be just as good as was the case for Watford away.

[robbo10]

Very good, if not an excellent window.
No excuses now, a squad of depth and quality.
Can't wait for the Southampton game.
Sense the atmosphere in the ground will be just as good as was the case for Watford away.

Is that you Arsene?

[LaughingGooner]

Sorry for being one of the few positive voices on the site.
I'm looking forward to the next few months, along with the vast majority of our supporters.

[DB10GOONER]

Sorry for being one of the few positive voices on the site.
I'm looking forward to the next few months, along with the vast majority of our supporters.

We have no problem with positive voices but try posting something with a bit more substance than "I'm looking forward to the next few months, along with the vast majority of our supporters".

Alot of what you post (like Steve_I) seems to be snide indirect pops at the forum regulars, dressed up in excessive politeness. What's the point of that, mate? Why not post a lucid well thought out defence of Wenger?

I've no idea how old you are or how long you have supported Arsenal, but most of the regulars on this forum are Arsenal fans since the 60s, 70s or 80s. What does piss them off is pro-Wenger supporters coming on here and implying they are not true Gooners because they don't support Wenger any longer. They support Arsenal, not Arsene. As is their right.

[hartygooner]

Laughing gooner you only come on here on the very odd occasion after a win to be a wum. I'm annoyed at myself for actually falling for your blatant wumming when I read it.

How about you actually engage in discussion on here and not just post things you know will get a angry response.

I would counter your strength in depth bollox with jack, chambers, campbell, gnabry and probably debuchy going out on loan or being sold and 2 players already out with long term injury's and more to come if the last 10 years are anything to go by.

[LaughingGooner]

You actually make some pretty good points.

Let me give you my point of view.

I used to come here a lot in the past, and though I've been critical of Wenger (this stubborness, lack of tactical flexibility, being too loyal to certain players), I just got pissed off at the personal abuse aimed towards him. It seemed everyone here competed with each other to pour as much abuse on him as possible. Some of it was racist and for me, went beyond the line of acceptance. These posters may have been sanctioned by the mods, but I didn't see much evidence of it.

I did attempt to reason my case, but then I just got slaughtered and mocked by many here. If people felt good about themselves in posting abuse of me, then each to their own. I feel it was others making snide comments to me. I came on here as a fellow Gooner and just got bored of the digs at me. I sense many others felt the same.

I answer your points, I was born in 1969 and started going regularly in the mid 80s. We were shite on the pitch generally, but I had great days, following the team, getting hold of away tickets without any difficulty and there was a great spirit amongst our fans on the road. We often lost but we had a great days. I just wished we had more success, other than the odd cup run.

So the first 10 years under Wenger was joy to see us playing such beautiful football and winning league titles. It's only now, looking back, how great it was to see how dominant we were. We owe Wenger a great deal.

He clearly lost is way in the last 10 years. I stand by my view that he was constrained in his spending. Was he really happy to go against Jose and Fergie with a sub standard team, with a war chest of money available??!!? I find it difficult to believe that. But I'm sure I'll be mocked here for such a view. How I'm up Wengers arse and I'm being naive.

Nevertheless, he has made errors, as I mentioned earlier in my post. But I'm not going to resort to vitriolic abuse here on a daily basis.

I still love my match days even though I don't go as much as I used to. I'm looking for us to compete this year and challenge for the title. I believe we can compete this year. If we do fall short, I'm not going to start abusing Wenger and constantly hark back to his mistakes in the past. He is a great manager period. Will he leave us in the mess which Fergie did to Utd. No way. He cares about the club too much for that. He has done wonders for the club but I understand the anger for his past failings. Just wish many here had a little more perspective on things.

Will put on my tin hat and look forward to more abuse...........

[DB10GOONER]

You actually make some pretty good points.

Let me give you my point of view.

I used to come here a lot in the past, and though I've been critical of Wenger (this stubborness, lack of tactical flexibility, being too loyal to certain players), I just got pissed off at the personal abuse aimed towards him. It seemed everyone here competed with each other to pour as much abuse on him as possible. Some of it was racist and for me, went beyond the line of acceptance. These posters may have been sanctioned by the mods, but I didn't see much evidence of it.

I did attempt to reason my case, but then I just got slaughtered and mocked by many here. If people felt good about themselves in posting abuse of me, then each to their own. I feel it was others making snide comments to me. I came on here as a fellow Gooner and just got bored of the digs at me. I sense many others felt the same.

I answer your points, I was born in 1969 and started going regularly in the mid 80s. We were shite on the pitch generally, but I had great days, following the team, getting hold of away tickets without any difficulty and there was a great spirit amongst our fans on the road. We often lost but we had a great days. I just wished we had more success, other than the odd cup run.

So the first 10 years under Wenger was joy to see us playing such beautiful football and winning league titles. It's only now, looking back, how great it was to see how dominant we were. We owe Wenger a great deal.

He clearly lost is way in the last 10 years. I stand by my view that he was constrained in his spending. Was he really happy to go against Jose and Fergie with a sub standard team, with a war chest of money available??!!? I find it difficult to believe that. But I'm sure I'll be mocked here for such a view. How I'm up Wengers arse and I'm being naive.

Nevertheless, he has made errors, as I mentioned earlier in my post. But I'm not going to resort to vitriolic abuse here on a daily basis.

I still love my match days even though I don't go as much as I used to. I'm looking for us to compete this year and challenge for the title. I believe we can compete this year. If we do fall short, I'm not going to start abusing Wenger and constantly hark back to his mistakes in the past. He is a great manager period. Will he leave us in the mess which Fergie did to Utd. No way. He cares about the club too much for that. He has done wonders for the club but I understand the anger for his past failings. Just wish many here had a little more perspective on things.

Will put on my tin hat and look forward to more abuse...........

See, that's a decent post. Just to address some of the points you raise. We certainly have had a problem on here over the years with personal abuse and we mods have been instructed by the owners to stamp down on it. We have done this. Now of course one man's personal abuse might be another's heated discussion or light-hearted banter so we often have to make a judgement call on it on a case by case basis whilst still trying to keep the forum enjoyable and not over-modded.

The racism thing again can be down to personal perception of what racism is, what xenophobia is and what racial stereotyping is. We do clamp down on overt racism or racial hatred but are inclined to let the lesser evil of xenophobia go as it often is just a person expressing themselves badly and is not necessarily racism per se. Again, it's a call we make on a case by case basis.

You may get some heated responses to your post, but then you should expect that if you are going to post pro-Wenger stuff on a forum where the vast majority are now against his continued reign. If any of it is personal abuse we will address that. But you should also get enough thought out intelligent replies to open a decent debate.

[arseofacrow]

You actually make some pretty good points.

Let me give you my point of view.

I used to come here a lot in the past, and though I've been critical of Wenger (this stubborness, lack of tactical flexibility, being too loyal to certain players), I just got pissed off at the personal abuse aimed towards him. It seemed everyone here competed with each other to pour as much abuse on him as possible. Some of it was racist and for me, went beyond the line of acceptance. These posters may have been sanctioned by the mods, but I didn't see much evidence of it.

I did attempt to reason my case, but then I just got slaughtered and mocked by many here. If people felt good about themselves in posting abuse of me, then each to their own. I feel it was others making snide comments to me. I came on here as a fellow Gooner and just got bored of the digs at me. I sense many others felt the same.

I answer your points, I was born in 1969 and started going regularly in the mid 80s. We were shite on the pitch generally, but I had great days, following the team, getting hold of away tickets without any difficulty and there was a great spirit amongst our fans on the road. We often lost but we had a great days. I just wished we had more success, other than the odd cup run.

So the first 10 years under Wenger was joy to see us playing such beautiful football and winning league titles. It's only now, looking back, how great it was to see how dominant we were. We owe Wenger a great deal.

He clearly lost is way in the last 10 years. I stand by my view that he was constrained in his spending. Was he really happy to go against Jose and Fergie with a sub standard team, with a war chest of money available??!!? I find it difficult to believe that. But I'm sure I'll be mocked here for such a view. How I'm up Wengers arse and I'm being naive.

Nevertheless, he has made errors, as I mentioned earlier in my post. But I'm not going to resort to vitriolic abuse here on a daily basis.

I still love my match days even though I don't go as much as I used to. I'm looking for us to compete this year and challenge for the title. I believe we can compete this year. If we do fall short, I'm not going to start abusing Wenger and constantly hark back to his mistakes in the past. He is a great manager period. Will he leave us in the mess which Fergie did to Utd. No way. He cares about the club too much for that. He has done wonders for the club but I understand the anger for his past failings. Just wish many here had a little more perspective on things.

Will put on my tin hat and look forward to more abuse...........

Denilson
Eboue
Almunia
Squillaci
Bendtner

Just some of the guys given outrageous contracts during our period of financial restraint.

And you talk of perspective? Ok.

[augie]

Probably be seen before

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/pre ... -wenger%2F

[DB10GOONER]

Probably be seen before

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/pre ... -wenger%2F

Vieira won't thank Petit for speaking out of class like that...

[IW8Goalmachine]

Probably be seen before

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/pre ... -wenger%2F

Vieira won't thank Petit for speaking out of class like that...

Would love to see Vieria and Henry at the club just to put some pride back into the team at least

[DB10GOONER]

Probably be seen before

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/pre ... -wenger%2F

Vieira won't thank Petit for speaking out of class like that...

Would love to see Vieria and Henry at the club just to put some pride back into the team at least

If Wenger was truly motivated by success and achieving the best for The Arsenal, rather than by his own ego, we would have a coaching staff that included Vieira, Adams, Bergkamp, and Henry. What they could teach younger players about work ethic and technique alone would be worth the wages!

[LaughingGooner]

You actually make some pretty good points.

Let me give you my point of view.

I used to come here a lot in the past, and though I've been critical of Wenger (this stubborness, lack of tactical flexibility, being too loyal to certain players), I just got pissed off at the personal abuse aimed towards him. It seemed everyone here competed with each other to pour as much abuse on him as possible. Some of it was racist and for me, went beyond the line of acceptance. These posters may have been sanctioned by the mods, but I didn't see much evidence of it.

I did attempt to reason my case, but then I just got slaughtered and mocked by many here. If people felt good about themselves in posting abuse of me, then each to their own. I feel it was others making snide comments to me. I came on here as a fellow Gooner and just got bored of the digs at me. I sense many others felt the same.

I answer your points, I was born in 1969 and started going regularly in the mid 80s. We were shite on the pitch generally, but I had great days, following the team, getting hold of away tickets without any difficulty and there was a great spirit amongst our fans on the road. We often lost but we had a great days. I just wished we had more success, other than the odd cup run.

So the first 10 years under Wenger was joy to see us playing such beautiful football and winning league titles. It's only now, looking back, how great it was to see how dominant we were. We owe Wenger a great deal.

He clearly lost is way in the last 10 years. I stand by my view that he was constrained in his spending. Was he really happy to go against Jose and Fergie with a sub standard team, with a war chest of money available??!!? I find it difficult to believe that. But I'm sure I'll be mocked here for such a view. How I'm up Wengers arse and I'm being naive.

Nevertheless, he has made errors, as I mentioned earlier in my post. But I'm not going to resort to vitriolic abuse here on a daily basis.

I still love my match days even though I don't go as much as I used to. I'm looking for us to compete this year and challenge for the title. I believe we can compete this year. If we do fall short, I'm not going to start abusing Wenger and constantly hark back to his mistakes in the past. He is a great manager period. Will he leave us in the mess which Fergie did to Utd. No way. He cares about the club too much for that. He has done wonders for the club but I understand the anger for his past failings. Just wish many here had a little more perspective on things.

Will put on my tin hat and look forward to more abuse...........

Denilson
Eboue
Almunia
Squillaci
Bendtner

Just some of the guys given outrageous contracts during our period of financial restraint.

And you talk of perspective? Ok.

Fergie:
Ralph Milne
Massimo Taibi
Kléberson
Gabriel Obertan
Eric Djemba-Djemba
Anderson
Mark Bosnich
Juan Sebastian Veron

Many bought with inflated fees, big contacts, many hung around for years, many sold at a great loss.

Wenger has his failings but to list his poor signings is totally irrelevant. I could also list Jose's poor signings.