Next Ingerland Manager

[Jumpers For Goalposts]

The fact that English football is shit has got nothing to do with the media and everything to do with 99.99% of English players / managers being as thick as shit.

And Henry - your description of Eddie Howe as a "Squinting little twat" made me laugh so much I thought I'd poop myself

[nut flush gooner]

It's entrapment. Simple as.

Can't believe anyone would excuse the way the telegraph have decided to go for Sam, just to sell more of their Shitty rags and give themselves massive pats on the back. They've done no good whatsoever. As if they give a shit about the game

I lol'd at this, the Daily Telegraph for many years has exposed crooks both inside and outside of football. The fact that Allardyce fell for the sting would suggest that he has a habit of mouthing off on how you can bend the rules for financial gain. The Telegraph is not a rag, have you ever read it? You won't see any tits and bum on page 3.

[flash gunner]

Wenger is going to do it, maybe at the end of the season but hes going

[Midz]

I agree that they're right to expose it but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the way they did it. It is all a bit underhand and seedy and just shows you that these lowlife fuckers are no better than those they prey upon. You have to remember that he hadn't done anything wrong until they went out of their way to put an offer in front of him. Sure that doesn't justify him taking it but nonetheless the guy would still be in his job doing nothing wrong today if it weren't for those vermin *word censored*.
I'm no fan of Fat Sam but I don't agree with entrapment. It's a lazy form of journalism and doesn't show the 'profession' (I use the term lightly) in the best light.

There's a massive difference between catching somebody doing wrong and orchestrating the situation whereby they might!

That's exactly how I felt about it.

[nut flush gooner]

I agree that they're right to expose it but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the way they did it. It is all a bit underhand and seedy and just shows you that these lowlife fuckers are no better than those they prey upon. You have to remember that he hadn't done anything wrong until they went out of their way to put an offer in front of him. Sure that doesn't justify him taking it but nonetheless the guy would still be in his job doing nothing wrong today if it weren't for those vermin *word censored*.
I'm no fan of Fat Sam but I don't agree with entrapment. It's a lazy form of journalism and doesn't show the 'profession' (I use the term lightly) in the best light.

There's a massive difference between catching somebody doing wrong and orchestrating the situation whereby they might!

That's exactly how I felt about it.

Absolutely nothing wrong with this sort of Journalism imo. BFS claims entrapment, how about abusing the position he has been bestowed for further financial gain on top of an already ridiculous salary.

The things that bothers me is how we have always taken the high ground against FIFA corruption and yet we have a serious problem in our back yard. Sting away there's loads more stuff to come I am sure.

Remember this is our money, we pay through the nose so that these people live a life that you could never imagine. I don't have a problem with that per se , but when they start abusing their privileges they should be named and shamed and quite frankly where serious fraud has taken place, be thrown in prison.

On the subject of BFS his football principles are in the dark ages, if he is the best English manager we have there is a serious problem in our game.

[Bradywasking]

Newspaper stings are not new, BFS had just landed his dream job.. How or why did he not realise that there was a chance that this was not all it seemed?. He was talking to complete strangers about breaking his new employers rules.
I can only imagine that, like the cartoon character he is, his eyes lit up with dollar signs and he just couldn't help himself..
He is a greedy man who just couldn't have enough..I am not going to praise the Telegraph for their sting but it happens and public figures like BFS should be more aware and more careful than jumping head first into the money trough...

[DB10GOONER]

What the absolute fuck, lads? Entrapment? What next - it wasn't poor Fat Greedy Walrus Chops' fault? There have been rumours of dodgy shit by this fat fuck for years, lots of stories about Fat Fuck Sam have been doing the rounds and THAT was why they targeted him (Ravel Morrison dodgy transfer anyone??!!).

If the fat crunt was honest and had any integrity he would have immediately told those undercover journo's to fuck off. But no, he saw the dollars and got a fat man's tubby little money boner...

How fucking crooked and greedy do you have to be when £3million a year isn't enough? Someone waves £400K in front of you and you bite?

[SPUDMASHER]

It's entrapment. Simple as.

Can't believe anyone would excuse the way the telegraph have decided to go for Sam, just to sell more of their Shitty rags and give themselves massive pats on the back. They've done no good whatsoever. As if they give a shit about the game

So obviously they are wrong cos they went after a guy with a vanilla reputation and who has never been involved in a shady deal before ?
FFS have a word with yourselves lads - yes they may have "created" the situation in this occasion, but they went after and caught a guy that has been believed to be crooked for years. Do you honestly believe that this is a once off ? Nobody made the guy react the way he did, but he took it cos he is a greedy c.unt and has probably got away with such deals in the past. The telegraph did not pick his name out of a hat when they were deciding who to go after - I will bet my life that they had been fed info on previous deals that he got away with, but knew that they needed to catch him in the act so set up the sting

Apparently this sting op has been going on for 10 months now so it started before he was appointed England manager - would people be so precious in defending him if he was still manager of the shammers, or geordies or Bolton ??

Augie, I don't think people are defending him, I think they're criticising the Telegraph for their underhand methods.
As I said in an earlier post, there is a massive difference between catching him doing wrong through good investigation and setting him up to do so. I don't think anyone doubts he's corrupt and that his come-uppance is long overdue but there are good ways and bad ways of doing it.

[markyp]

What the absolute fuck, lads? Entrapment? What next - it wasn't poor Fat Greedy Walrus Chops' fault? There have been rumours of dodgy shit by this fat fuck for years, lots of stories about Fat Fuck Sam have been doing the rounds and THAT was why they targeted him (Ravel Morrison dodgy transfer anyone??!!).

If the fat crunt was honest and had any integrity he would have immediately told those undercover journo's to fuck off. But no, he saw the dollars and got a fat man's tubby little money boner...

How fucking crooked and greedy do you have to be when £3million a year isn't enough? Someone waves £400K in front of you and you bite?

like GG you mean?? football is full of duckers and divers,jack the lads,its the nature of the business.the reason the F.a are such a joke is because its run by brain dead stiffs who haven't got a clue about football or its culture.

[nut flush gooner]

What the absolute fuck, lads? Entrapment? What next - it wasn't poor Fat Greedy Walrus Chops' fault? There have been rumours of dodgy shit by this fat fuck for years, lots of stories about Fat Fuck Sam have been doing the rounds and THAT was why they targeted him (Ravel Morrison dodgy transfer anyone??!!).

If the fat crunt was honest and had any integrity he would have immediately told those undercover journo's to fuck off. But no, he saw the dollars and got a fat man's tubby little money boner...

How fucking crooked and greedy do you have to be when £3million a year isn't enough? Someone waves £400K in front of you and you bite?

like GG you mean?? football is full of duckers and divers,jack the lads,its the nature of the business.the reason the F.a are such a joke is because its run by brain dead stiffs who haven't got a clue about football or its culture.

It's nothing to do with who is running the FA, it's about greed. The bankers got away with dodgy dealing for decades before the government threw the book at them, but even now we have examples of them trying to manipulate the system. It's exactly the same with football, put money into the equation and you get the worst out of human beings.

You have to remember this isn't the sun or the daily star, it's a credible newspaper that found BFS out. I am sure that the editors of the two former papers, are gutted they didn't get there first.

[markyp]

What the absolute fuck, lads? Entrapment? What next - it wasn't poor Fat Greedy Walrus Chops' fault? There have been rumours of dodgy shit by this fat fuck for years, lots of stories about Fat Fuck Sam have been doing the rounds and THAT was why they targeted him (Ravel Morrison dodgy transfer anyone??!!).

If the fat crunt was honest and had any integrity he would have immediately told those undercover journo's to fuck off. But no, he saw the dollars and got a fat man's tubby little money boner...

How fucking crooked and greedy do you have to be when £3million a year isn't enough? Someone waves £400K in front of you and you bite?

like GG you mean?? football is full of duckers and divers,jack the lads,its the nature of the business.the reason the F.a are such a joke is because its run by brain dead stiffs who haven't got a clue about football or its culture.

It's nothing to do with who is running the FA, it's about greed. The bankers got away with dodgy dealing for decades before the government threw the book at them, but even now we have examples of them trying to manipulate the system. It's exactly the same with football, put money into the equation and you get the worst out of human beings.

You have to remember this isn't the sun or the daily star, it's a credible newspaper that found BFS out. I am sure that the editors of the two former papers, are gutted they didn't get there first.

but the greed of football managers/footballers isn't anybodys business except theirs,we are a nation obsessed with what everybody else is earning,Allardyce's wrong doing or potential wrong doing wasn't costing the tax payer anything,it wasn't costing anybody here anything,i don't see the big problem,taking the moral high ground here is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face.i bet there are a fair few people here who have worked for cash in hand,that is worse than what any manager has done as its breaking the law not some stupid code of ethics made up by the f.a

[nut flush gooner]

What the absolute fuck, lads? Entrapment? What next - it wasn't poor Fat Greedy Walrus Chops' fault? There have been rumours of dodgy shit by this fat fuck for years, lots of stories about Fat Fuck Sam have been doing the rounds and THAT was why they targeted him (Ravel Morrison dodgy transfer anyone??!!).

If the fat crunt was honest and had any integrity he would have immediately told those undercover journo's to fuck off. But no, he saw the dollars and got a fat man's tubby little money boner...

How fucking crooked and greedy do you have to be when £3million a year isn't enough? Someone waves £400K in front of you and you bite?

like GG you mean?? football is full of duckers and divers,jack the lads,its the nature of the business.the reason the F.a are such a joke is because its run by brain dead stiffs who haven't got a clue about football or its culture.

It's nothing to do with who is running the FA, it's about greed. The bankers got away with dodgy dealing for decades before the government threw the book at them, but even now we have examples of them trying to manipulate the system. It's exactly the same with football, put money into the equation and you get the worst out of human beings.

You have to remember this isn't the sun or the daily star, it's a credible newspaper that found BFS out. I am sure that the editors of the two former papers, are gutted they didn't get there first.

but the greed of football managers/footballers isn't anybodys business except theirs,we are a nation obsessed with what everybody else is earning,Allardyce's wrong doing or potential wrong doing wasn't costing the tax payer anything,it wasn't costing anybody here anything,i don't see the big problem,taking the moral high ground here is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face.i bet there are a fair few people here who have worked for cash in hand,that is worse than what any manager has done as its breaking the law not some stupid code of ethics made up by the f.a

Of course it is, where does this money come from? I'll tell you it's the paying fans who put money into the game either through ticket sales, TV subscriptions, merchandise or any other financially connected transaction with the football world. Do you think Sky or BT pay players wages ?

Yes someone who works for cash in hand is a tax avoiding scumbag in my book, but lets just put this into perspective we aren't talking about a few hundred quid in a brown envelope more like hundreds of thousands of pounds in dodgy deals. Footballers and Managers are expected to be role models for young people, not an example of how to scam a few hundred grand out of the system.

[DB10GOONER]

What the absolute fuck, lads? Entrapment? What next - it wasn't poor Fat Greedy Walrus Chops' fault? There have been rumours of dodgy shit by this fat fuck for years, lots of stories about Fat Fuck Sam have been doing the rounds and THAT was why they targeted him (Ravel Morrison dodgy transfer anyone??!!).

If the fat crunt was honest and had any integrity he would have immediately told those undercover journo's to fuck off. But no, he saw the dollars and got a fat man's tubby little money boner...

How fucking crooked and greedy do you have to be when £3million a year isn't enough? Someone waves £400K in front of you and you bite?

like GG you mean?? football is full of duckers and divers,jack the lads,its the nature of the business.the reason the F.a are such a joke is because its run by brain dead stiffs who haven't got a clue about football or its culture.

Exactly like GG. And GG was caught and rightly punished. But let's also remember that GG was scapegoated as every fucker and his cousin was taking bungs back then. Ferguson somehow got away with it because he turned the money over after a while and Cloughie got away with it by dying. Whilst I don't condone that shit, it is worth remembering that managers back then earned a lot less than they do now and within the game the bung system was looked upon as an acceptable "aside" to top up their wages - until it was exposed. Nowadays managers earn millions and if they are willing to risk a job worth a couple million a year for a couple hundred grand in cash then they are idiots.

[augie]

What the absolute fuck, lads? Entrapment? What next - it wasn't poor Fat Greedy Walrus Chops' fault? There have been rumours of dodgy shit by this fat fuck for years, lots of stories about Fat Fuck Sam have been doing the rounds and THAT was why they targeted him (Ravel Morrison dodgy transfer anyone??!!).

If the fat crunt was honest and had any integrity he would have immediately told those undercover journo's to fuck off. But no, he saw the dollars and got a fat man's tubby little money boner...

How fucking crooked and greedy do you have to be when £3million a year isn't enough? Someone waves £400K in front of you and you bite?

like GG you mean?? football is full of duckers and divers,jack the lads,its the nature of the business.the reason the F.a are such a joke is because its run by brain dead stiffs who haven't got a clue about football or its culture.

Exactly like GG. And GG was caught and rightly punished. But let's also remember that GG was scapegoated as every fucker and his cousin was taking bungs back then. Ferguson somehow got away with it because he turned the money over after a while and Cloughie got away with it by dying. Whilst I don't condone that shit, it is worth remembering that managers back then earned a lot less than they do now and within the game the bung system was looked upon as an acceptable "aside" to top up their wages - until it was exposed. Nowadays managers earn millions and if they are willing to risk a job worth a couple million a year for a couple hundred grand in cash then they are idiots.

You don't condone dying ? Granted there are better ways to get away with it but still criticizing him for dying is harsh

[DB10GOONER]

What the absolute fuck, lads? Entrapment? What next - it wasn't poor Fat Greedy Walrus Chops' fault? There have been rumours of dodgy shit by this fat fuck for years, lots of stories about Fat Fuck Sam have been doing the rounds and THAT was why they targeted him (Ravel Morrison dodgy transfer anyone??!!).

If the fat crunt was honest and had any integrity he would have immediately told those undercover journo's to fuck off. But no, he saw the dollars and got a fat man's tubby little money boner...

How fucking crooked and greedy do you have to be when £3million a year isn't enough? Someone waves £400K in front of you and you bite?

like GG you mean?? football is full of duckers and divers,jack the lads,its the nature of the business.the reason the F.a are such a joke is because its run by brain dead stiffs who haven't got a clue about football or its culture.

Exactly like GG. And GG was caught and rightly punished. But let's also remember that GG was scapegoated as every fucker and his cousin was taking bungs back then. Ferguson somehow got away with it because he turned the money over after a while and Cloughie got away with it by dying. Whilst I don't condone that shit, it is worth remembering that managers back then earned a lot less than they do now and within the game the bung system was looked upon as an acceptable "aside" to top up their wages - until it was exposed. Nowadays managers earn millions and if they are willing to risk a job worth a couple million a year for a couple hundred grand in cash then they are idiots.

You don't condone dying ? Granted there are better ways to get away with it but still criticizing him for dying is harsh

Absolutely not. Dying is a cop out.