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[DB10GOONER]

word on the street is that Wenker will not commit to taking the England role until the FA guarantee they will change the name of the national team to Wengerland and pretend that 1966 did not happen.

Seems reasonable...

[Bradywasking]

word on the street is that Wenker will not commit to taking the England role until the FA guarantee they will change the name of the national team to Wengerland and pretend that 1966 did not happen.

Seems reasonable...

Wenger has also demanded full credit for rebuilding Wembley single handed.. Martin Keown will say England was a small country til Wenger took over..

[DB10GOONER]

word on the street is that Wenker will not commit to taking the England role until the FA guarantee they will change the name of the national team to Wengerland and pretend that 1966 did not happen.

Seems reasonable...

Wenger has also demanded full credit for rebuilding Wembley single handed.. Martin Keown will say England was a small country til Wenger took over..

Also seems reasonable...

[SteveO 35]

The state of the English national team can be summed up by asking your average fan the last time they enjoyed watching one of their games. The 4-1 win against Holland in Euro 96 will often be mentioned, and usually the only one more recent than that would be the 5-1 win in Germany....at absolute best a couple of the early Euro 2004 games when Rooney was last remembered to have played well

I can't remember anything vaguely watchable in the last decade. I remember pointing out to people who wanted Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, Cole, Ferdinand etc removed from the team as a bunch of overpaid prima donnas who didn't care about playing for their country.....and Sven hung, drawn and quartered for not being passionate enough and being a Jonny Foreigner.....that it's easy to line who you want out, but who the fuck is coming in instead??

Wind the clock on 10 years and I don't think many Englishmen would be happy with their replacements! When I look at the team sheet now and see a bunch of Scummers and average Mickeys I can hardly be bothered to watch. When's the next Interlull break so I can book another holiday?

[DB10GOONER]

The state of the English national team can be summed up by asking your average fan the last time they enjoyed watching one of their games. The 4-1 win against Holland in Euro 96 will often be mentioned, and usually the only one more recent than that would be the 5-1 win in Germany....at absolute best a couple of the early Euro 2004 games when Rooney was last remembered to have played well

I can't remember anything vaguely watchable in the last decade. I remember pointing out to people who wanted Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, Cole, Ferdinand etc removed from the team as a bunch of overpaid prima donnas who didn't care about playing for their country.....and Sven hung, drawn and quartered for not being passionate enough and being a Jonny Foreigner.....that it's easy to line who you want out, but who the fuck is coming in instead??

Wind the clock on 10 years and I don't think many Englishmen would be happy with their replacements! When I look at the team sheet now and see a bunch of Scummers and average Mickeys I can hardly be bothered to watch. When's the next Interlull break so I can book another holiday?

It's not just England, mate. Interlull football in general has become tedious and boring to watch.

[northbank123]

Lots of callers (and pundits) on the radio again suggesting England suffer from a lack of passion. Ridiculous that this nonsense still gets banded about.

England have no consistent set-up and team selection. The side changes every international window. England won all 10 games in qualifying, then in their last warm-up game play Rooney up front with Vardy and Kane on the wings. Come tournament time, Rooney plays in a central midfield that's never played together with Alli and Dier. The full-backs are told to bomb forward without concern and after a decent cameo Sturridge is crowbarred in on the wing. More or less the entire side changed for the Slovakia game and then again for Iceland.

Is it any wonder the players look lost and short on ideas? That's not a lack of inspiration, it's a lack of tactical understanding and cohesion. The good international sides have a system and any personnel changes fit within that. Aside from riding their luck, the reason Wales prospered is because the players all understand their role and the system which is geared up to get the most out of the players and which they have been working on for years.

It's not about picking the 11 players with the best ability, it's not about picking the 11 players with the biggest reputation, it's not about picking the 11 players on the best form for their club. It's about picking the best side which will normally have a mix of all three.

As long as the FA continue labouring under this misapprehension that England suffer from nerves or lack of pride then things won't improve. They need to appoint a technical coach whose ideas might fall flat or who might just start changing perceptions amongst the players, FA, media and fans.

[arseofacrow]

Lots of callers (and pundits) on the radio again suggesting England suffer from a lack of passion. Ridiculous that this nonsense still gets banded about.

England have no consistent set-up and team selection. The side changes every international window. England won all 10 games in qualifying, then in their last warm-up game play Rooney up front with Vardy and Kane on the wings. Come tournament time, Rooney plays in a central midfield that's never played together with Alli and Dier. The full-backs are told to bomb forward without concern and after a decent cameo Sturridge is crowbarred in on the wing. More or less the entire side changed for the Slovakia game and then again for Iceland.

Is it any wonder the players look lost and short on ideas? That's not a lack of inspiration, it's a lack of tactical understanding and cohesion. The good international sides have a system and any personnel changes fit within that. Aside from riding their luck, the reason Wales prospered is because the players all understand their role and the system which is geared up to get the most out of the players and which they have been working on for years.

It's not about picking the 11 players with the best ability, it's not about picking the 11 players with the biggest reputation, it's not about picking the 11 players on the best form for their club. It's about picking the best side which will normally have a mix of all three.

As long as the FA continue labouring under this misapprehension that England suffer from nerves or lack of pride then things won't improve. They need to appoint a technical coach whose ideas might fall flat or who might just start changing perceptions amongst the players, FA, media and fans.

England has never had a golden age and have had great players come through because of the throwing shit at the wall theory.

Brexit explains a lot.

[SteveO 35]

Lots of callers (and pundits) on the radio again suggesting England suffer from a lack of passion. Ridiculous that this nonsense still gets banded about.

England have no consistent set-up and team selection. The side changes every international window. England won all 10 games in qualifying, then in their last warm-up game play Rooney up front with Vardy and Kane on the wings. Come tournament time, Rooney plays in a central midfield that's never played together with Alli and Dier. The full-backs are told to bomb forward without concern and after a decent cameo Sturridge is crowbarred in on the wing. More or less the entire side changed for the Slovakia game and then again for Iceland.

Is it any wonder the players look lost and short on ideas? That's not a lack of inspiration, it's a lack of tactical understanding and cohesion. The good international sides have a system and any personnel changes fit within that. Aside from riding their luck, the reason Wales prospered is because the players all understand their role and the system which is geared up to get the most out of the players and which they have been working on for years.

It's not about picking the 11 players with the best ability, it's not about picking the 11 players with the biggest reputation, it's not about picking the 11 players on the best form for their club. It's about picking the best side which will normally have a mix of all three.

As long as the FA continue labouring under this misapprehension that England suffer from nerves or lack of pride then things won't improve. They need to appoint a technical coach whose ideas might fall flat or who might just start changing perceptions amongst the players, FA, media and fans.

Pretty much how I see it mate. The usual cry after tournament failure - other than to throw out the manager - is to get rid of everyone over the age of 28 and replace them with all these so called 'bright young things'. The trouble when you look at the under 21s or those just breaking through is that they aren't actually as good as the ones they are replacing.....it just ends up being an emotional outpouring in response to another failure

Add to that all of the points you mention about constant chopping and changing and meddling with the system and you've got a recipe for failure. I guarantee the same thing will happen this time. England will qualify from this group without any shadow of doubt and might actually find some rhythm along the way at some point. However, come the World Cup whichever Johnny Come Lately (a la Rashford) has had half a dozen decent games in the PL during the last quarter of the season, every corner of the media will demand his inclusion and any regard for the 2 years preparation that went before will be ripped up. Its so predictable, its untrue. When we did have a half decent manager in Eriksson, all the media wanted to do was hound him out, interrogate his personal life and want to replace him with a so called passionate Englishman (since when McClaren, Hodgson and Fat Sam have been fucking marvellous haven't they)

Still.....at least we've got Scotland to keep enjoying

[AkneyGooner]

Lots of callers (and pundits) on the radio again suggesting England suffer from a lack of passion. Ridiculous that this nonsense still gets banded about.

England have no consistent set-up and team selection. The side changes every international window. England won all 10 games in qualifying, then in their last warm-up game play Rooney up front with Vardy and Kane on the wings. Come tournament time, Rooney plays in a central midfield that's never played together with Alli and Dier. The full-backs are told to bomb forward without concern and after a decent cameo Sturridge is crowbarred in on the wing. More or less the entire side changed for the Slovakia game and then again for Iceland.

Is it any wonder the players look lost and short on ideas? That's not a lack of inspiration, it's a lack of tactical understanding and cohesion. The good international sides have a system and any personnel changes fit within that. Aside from riding their luck, the reason Wales prospered is because the players all understand their role and the system which is geared up to get the most out of the players and which they have been working on for years.

It's not about picking the 11 players with the best ability, it's not about picking the 11 players with the biggest reputation, it's not about picking the 11 players on the best form for their club. It's about picking the best side which will normally have a mix of all three.

As long as the FA continue labouring under this misapprehension that England suffer from nerves or lack of pride then things won't improve. They need to appoint a technical coach whose ideas might fall flat or who might just start changing perceptions amongst the players, FA, media and fans.

I agree knowing your role is important, you can only really have one (maybe two) player(s) who do what they want, and he is normally your world class player, but we don't have even one!

That player is normally what makes your team unpredictable, oherwise you just have to know your role and end up often playing some kind of boring predictable football.

i guess right now that is where the team is talent wise, the international version of a team trying to avoid relegation.