The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

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Remain or leave

Remain
30
37%
Leave
51
63%
 
Total votes: 81

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
GranadaJoe wrote:I fucking hate the patronising attitude of some Remainers, who seem to think we were too stupid or racist to understand how we should vote.

The latest in a long line of tosspot celebrities is Graham (insert expletive) Norton, who tells us that we couldn't see through the lies that we were being told and that now we regret it.
He, and many others, seem to think that we heard the lies (like there were none on the Remain side !!), believed them and therefore voted out, not for a second considering that we may have recognised the bullshit being spread and instead made a decision based on reason and values.

Still Graham, I now know who to turn to when I need political or economic advice.
fair enough.
what do you think will be the biggest benefit to the country once brexit happens?
You can kick Graham Norton out? :rubchin:

:lol:
good start. I also dont think that anyone french should be allowed to manage in England 8)

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Gunner Rob wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
GranadaJoe wrote:I fucking hate the patronising attitude of some Remainers, who seem to think we were too stupid or racist to understand how we should vote.

The latest in a long line of tosspot celebrities is Graham (insert expletive) Norton, who tells us that we couldn't see through the lies that we were being told and that now we regret it.
He, and many others, seem to think that we heard the lies (like there were none on the Remain side !!), believed them and therefore voted out, not for a second considering that we may have recognised the bullshit being spread and instead made a decision based on reason and values.

Still Graham, I now know who to turn to when I need political or economic advice.
fair enough.
what do you think will be the biggest benefit to the country once brexit happens?
You can kick Graham Norton out? :rubchin:

:lol:
good start. I also dont think that anyone french should be allowed to manage in England 8)
:lol:

Cannot disagree. :wink:

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
I think in two paragraphs you displayed your understanding or lack of it in the banking system. It was investment banking that caused the financial crisis in 2007-09. Pre 2007 the square mile's tax take was enough to pay for the education budget for the whole of the UK, but funnily enough while the money was coming in no one battered an eyelid. What I would like to know is what you're interpretation of "casino" banking is and why it caused the financial crisis. It's easy to come out with cliched comments, but unless you knew what really happened in my opinion all you are saying on a forum like this are hollow words.

If you look at retail banking, yes there was a phase of jobs going out to India but a hell of a lot of them have come back to the UK simply because wages in India have gone through the roof, so there isn't anywhere near the financial benefit for banks to outsource in the same way as 10 years, ago.

With regards to Brexit again I re-iterate if the bankers leave London, we do not win as a individuals, families or most importantly as a country.
Your arrogance is somewhat Merkelesque!
You can dress it up as much as you like, but they all come under the same flag.
British taxpayers bailed them out! what do you not understand about that.

October 2001 was the start of the Enron Corporation Scandal, which not only affected the US but involved the UK banking sector remember the Natwest three? under the flag of RBS, remember the guy that slit his wrists in the park?
From that day the banking sector lost its credibility and the knock on effects would have serious repercussions going forward, and banking has not fully recovered since that date.
So yes mon cherie, I understand more than what you think and I know a rogue at ten paces when I see one.... :wink:

So I make you six years out from your start date of 2007....
This is quality !

I remember Enron very well, working for an Accountancy firm at the time, and constantly winding up my auditing colleagues. It has NOTHING to do with the banks lmao, it was an accounting misrepresentation that brought down it's auditors too, Arthur Anderson who pocketed millions of dollars in fees but "cooked the books".

The banking crisis wasn't caused by Natwest, RBS or people slitting their wrists in Parks. It originated in the US in the form of mortgage backed securities that where not watertight. What is a mortgage backed security? To put it simply it is a debt that is repackaged and sold onto another lender. Because of this banks became very lax in their lending, giving money to people and businesses that had never been properly assessed to see if they could repay their loans. Of course the pack of cards came down, when the people started defaulting on loans/mortgages in the US. The banks balance sheets could not cope, and Lehman Brothers went bust. This was the catalyst for a Global crisis which impacted our banks as well.

When you have the bare faced cheek to call someone "Merkelesque" and arrogant, you really need to look a bit closer to home because the last two posts show how much you really know and understand about the issues surrounding Brexit.

BTW there is nothing arrogant about Merkel, not sure where you get all this from. She is no different to TM.

Ditto that, you probably made my coffee back then, you still didn't get the hang of paper clip counting!... :lol:
Ahh your Angla vs my Theresa (once a remoaner now on the dark side lol) avin a mud wrestle... :box: :box:
Making your coffee, no I didn't report to anyone in the post room ;)

My time was better spent offering consultancy services to their international client bank. If you genuinely worked in an accountancy firm I pity you for being a brexiteer, because you should have all the facts you need to make an informed decision. Even more so, being an accountant (which I am not) you should understand the Enron scandal better than most. The same goes for the Financial crisis. Yet on both counts you have shown you don't.

:barscarf: :barscarf: :roll:
I do understand Nutbush City Limits (Tina), and yes I have performed audits in loads of blue chip companies, and whilst working at Massachusetts at Staples ( not paper clips forgive the unintended pun ) the world seem to have crashed for the US after 9/11...
It was a bad one, and I remember saying the repercussions will gradually hit Europe, and I was not wrong.... :box:

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Gunner Rob wrote:
GranadaJoe wrote:I fucking hate the patronising attitude of some Remainers, who seem to think we were too stupid or racist to understand how we should vote.

The latest in a long line of tosspot celebrities is Graham (insert expletive) Norton, who tells us that we couldn't see through the lies that we were being told and that now we regret it.
He, and many others, seem to think that we heard the lies (like there were none on the Remain side !!), believed them and therefore voted out, not for a second considering that we may have recognised the bullshit being spread and instead made a decision based on reason and values.

Still Graham, I now know who to turn to when I need political or economic advice.
fair enough.
what do you think will be the biggest benefit to the country once brexit happens?
We may get rid of Scotland! :wink:

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All the doom and gloom scaremongering would be funny, if it wasn't so damaging.

Last weekends "massive" story on Skynews is a case in point. The head(?) of the British Banking Association was telling the world that major banks had "their fingers hovering" over some button which would relocate them away from London and seriously bugger the U.K. This guy is Anthony Browne. He is purely a PR man and ex journalist. We all know how some journalists will create a headline without letting any truths get in the way. :evil:

We had exactly the same bullshit when the Euro was launched. We were told that we had to be in the Euro. That our economy would collapse outside the zone. Our financial services industry would collapse. The City of London would be no more. It would be a dead parrot. Nailed to a perch.

Here are some more facts........

1. The UK now has almost 32 million people in work. A substantial increase since the referendum. A whopping great 560,000 more than a year earlier.

2. Wells Fargo bank has stated there is no change in their international strategy since the referendum. It intends to expand it's business in the U.K. It has just bought new offices in London. £300million.

3. The UK has a large trade deficit with the EU. IF we end up trading within the WTO tariff system then the EU will be the net loser. To the tune of about £8billion a year.

None of us actually know what the future holds. But some people (very strangely) think they DO.

PS......anybody bored with this thread does not need to read it :wink:

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Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
Your arrogance is somewhat Merkelesque!
You can dress it up as much as you like, but they all come under the same flag.
British taxpayers bailed them out! what do you not understand about that.

October 2001 was the start of the Enron Corporation Scandal, which not only affected the US but involved the UK banking sector remember the Natwest three? under the flag of RBS, remember the guy that slit his wrists in the park?
From that day the banking sector lost its credibility and the knock on effects would have serious repercussions going forward, and banking has not fully recovered since that date.
So yes mon cherie, I understand more than what you think and I know a rogue at ten paces when I see one.... :wink:

So I make you six years out from your start date of 2007....
This is quality !

I remember Enron very well, working for an Accountancy firm at the time, and constantly winding up my auditing colleagues. It has NOTHING to do with the banks lmao, it was an accounting misrepresentation that brought down it's auditors too, Arthur Anderson who pocketed millions of dollars in fees but "cooked the books".

The banking crisis wasn't caused by Natwest, RBS or people slitting their wrists in Parks. It originated in the US in the form of mortgage backed securities that where not watertight. What is a mortgage backed security? To put it simply it is a debt that is repackaged and sold onto another lender. Because of this banks became very lax in their lending, giving money to people and businesses that had never been properly assessed to see if they could repay their loans. Of course the pack of cards came down, when the people started defaulting on loans/mortgages in the US. The banks balance sheets could not cope, and Lehman Brothers went bust. This was the catalyst for a Global crisis which impacted our banks as well.

When you have the bare faced cheek to call someone "Merkelesque" and arrogant, you really need to look a bit closer to home because the last two posts show how much you really know and understand about the issues surrounding Brexit.

BTW there is nothing arrogant about Merkel, not sure where you get all this from. She is no different to TM.

Ditto that, you probably made my coffee back then, you still didn't get the hang of paper clip counting!... :lol:
Ahh your Angla vs my Theresa (once a remoaner now on the dark side lol) avin a mud wrestle... :box: :box:
Making your coffee, no I didn't report to anyone in the post room ;)

My time was better spent offering consultancy services to their international client bank. If you genuinely worked in an accountancy firm I pity you for being a brexiteer, because you should have all the facts you need to make an informed decision. Even more so, being an accountant (which I am not) you should understand the Enron scandal better than most. The same goes for the Financial crisis. Yet on both counts you have shown you don't.

:barscarf: :barscarf: :roll:
I do understand Nutbush City Limits (Tina), and yes I have performed audits in loads of blue chip companies, and whilst working at Massachusetts at Staples ( not paper clips forgive the unintended pun ) the world seem to have crashed for the US after 9/11...
It was a bad one, and I remember saying the repercussions will gradually hit Europe, and I was not wrong.... :box:
If you was an auditor how can you hopelessly misunderstand the Enron scandal and it's non relationship with the banking crisis. It beggars belief.

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olgitgooner wrote:All the doom and gloom scaremongering would be funny, if it wasn't so damaging.

Last weekends "massive" story on Skynews is a case in point. The head(?) of the British Banking Association was telling the world that major banks had "their fingers hovering" over some button which would relocate them away from London and seriously bugger the U.K. This guy is Anthony Browne. He is purely a PR man and ex journalist. We all know how some journalists will create a headline without letting any truths get in the way. :evil:

We had exactly the same bullshit when the Euro was launched. We were told that we had to be in the Euro. That our economy would collapse outside the zone. Our financial services industry would collapse. The City of London would be no more. It would be a dead parrot. Nailed to a perch.

Here are some more facts........

1. The UK now has almost 32 million people in work. A substantial increase since the referendum. A whopping great 560,000 more than a year earlier.

2. Wells Fargo bank has stated there is no change in their international strategy since the referendum. It intends to expand it's business in the U.K. It has just bought new offices in London. £300million.

3. The UK has a large trade deficit with the EU. IF we end up trading within the WTO tariff system then the EU will be the net loser. To the tune of about £8billion a year.

None of us actually know what the future holds. But some people (very strangely) think they DO.

PS......anybody bored with this thread does not need to read it :wink:
How is it scaremongering if banks are already leaving the city? You can't call anything scaremongering if a company or a figure in a professional body makes a comment on what may happen, especially if it is highly likely. The votes have been cast, now we are living with the consequences. There will be speculation that's the way the world works, hell we get it every summer with Arsenals transfer activity.

Even if there is a bit of angle shooting from the BBA, can you blame them based on the disregard that the new prime minister seems to have for matters in the square mile?

To answer your bullet points:

1) Yes we have low unemployment (not far from full employment), that has been during a period of stability in the EU. The expectation is for unemployment to increase over the next year or so. Regardless of this its the quality of jobs that if they go from the city that will have a profound effect on the finances of this country. Saying 560,000 more people are in work since June is just pie in the sky, it reminds me of a childrens program by Johnny Ball years ago "Think of a Number". :D :D.


2) With regards to Wells Fargo, they have pretty much put all their employees in one building.They have said they are recruiting in Real Estate and Banking in London but they have contingencies to move jobs into Europe if pass-porting rights are lost. They only employ 900 people in London anyway, hardly part of the bigger picture is it. £300m for an office really isn't a lot these days. If you are going to report on a company at least try to give a balanced view.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... for-brexit

3) The trade deficit comes up time and time again, yet people just do not get the impact of tariff/taxes on imports into the UK. Canada have been trying to negotiate a deal for 7 years, and last week when it was expected to be rubber stamped by the EU, Belgium veto'd ffs!!

If that is Canada's experience what do you think will happen to us when the Europeans have already indicated they will not give us an easy ride. Seven fucking years !!!

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trade-expert- ... 00221.html

You can try to spin the positives on Brexit as much as you like, but the net effect is not positive for this country at any level.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
This is quality !

I remember Enron very well, working for an Accountancy firm at the time, and constantly winding up my auditing colleagues. It has NOTHING to do with the banks lmao, it was an accounting misrepresentation that brought down it's auditors too, Arthur Anderson who pocketed millions of dollars in fees but "cooked the books".

The banking crisis wasn't caused by Natwest, RBS or people slitting their wrists in Parks. It originated in the US in the form of mortgage backed securities that where not watertight. What is a mortgage backed security? To put it simply it is a debt that is repackaged and sold onto another lender. Because of this banks became very lax in their lending, giving money to people and businesses that had never been properly assessed to see if they could repay their loans. Of course the pack of cards came down, when the people started defaulting on loans/mortgages in the US. The banks balance sheets could not cope, and Lehman Brothers went bust. This was the catalyst for a Global crisis which impacted our banks as well.

When you have the bare faced cheek to call someone "Merkelesque" and arrogant, you really need to look a bit closer to home because the last two posts show how much you really know and understand about the issues surrounding Brexit.

BTW there is nothing arrogant about Merkel, not sure where you get all this from. She is no different to TM.

Ditto that, you probably made my coffee back then, you still didn't get the hang of paper clip counting!... :lol:
Ahh your Angla vs my Theresa (once a remoaner now on the dark side lol) avin a mud wrestle... :box: :box:
Making your coffee, no I didn't report to anyone in the post room ;)

My time was better spent offering consultancy services to their international client bank. If you genuinely worked in an accountancy firm I pity you for being a brexiteer, because you should have all the facts you need to make an informed decision. Even more so, being an accountant (which I am not) you should understand the Enron scandal better than most. The same goes for the Financial crisis. Yet on both counts you have shown you don't.

:barscarf: :barscarf: :roll:
I do understand Nutbush City Limits (Tina), and yes I have performed audits in loads of blue chip companies, and whilst working at Massachusetts at Staples ( not paper clips forgive the unintended pun ) the world seem to have crashed for the US after 9/11...
It was a bad one, and I remember saying the repercussions will gradually hit Europe, and I was not wrong.... :box:
If you was an auditor how can you hopelessly misunderstand the Enron scandal and it's non relationship with the banking crisis. It beggars belief.
What you fail to understand is that when the US farts we on our tiny island get the shit.
So Enron was the start in terms of the overstatement of funds and our banks had a huge stake in them.
Directly or indirectly it had a global effect, you even had the Bank of America told by Bush himself to support/bail out Merrill Lynch which really should have been shut down.
Real Estate dived, not unlike Ireland's Celtic Tiger which died and left so many unfinished buildings as the cash had dried up...
It all points to Greed and for years malpractice had been covered up, hence our banks had to tidy up their act with the demarcation of Investment Banking to Retail Banking.
What about the Icelandic Banks offering 10% interest to Councils in the UK, who invested pension funds and lost the lot, and don't tell me they got it all back as that is not the case.
So when you ask me about banks, I think I know a little, you unfortunately seem to think that there was no domino effect.
Banks have now had their wings clipped, till the next time some chinless wonder finds ways of circumventing the rules...

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Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:

Ditto that, you probably made my coffee back then, you still didn't get the hang of paper clip counting!... :lol:
Ahh your Angla vs my Theresa (once a remoaner now on the dark side lol) avin a mud wrestle... :box: :box:
Making your coffee, no I didn't report to anyone in the post room ;)

My time was better spent offering consultancy services to their international client bank. If you genuinely worked in an accountancy firm I pity you for being a brexiteer, because you should have all the facts you need to make an informed decision. Even more so, being an accountant (which I am not) you should understand the Enron scandal better than most. The same goes for the Financial crisis. Yet on both counts you have shown you don't.

:barscarf: :barscarf: :roll:
I do understand Nutbush City Limits (Tina), and yes I have performed audits in loads of blue chip companies, and whilst working at Massachusetts at Staples ( not paper clips forgive the unintended pun ) the world seem to have crashed for the US after 9/11...
It was a bad one, and I remember saying the repercussions will gradually hit Europe, and I was not wrong.... :box:
If you was an auditor how can you hopelessly misunderstand the Enron scandal and it's non relationship with the banking crisis. It beggars belief.
What you fail to understand is that when the US farts we on our tiny island get the shit.
So Enron was the start in terms of the overstatement of funds and our banks had a huge stake in them.
Directly or indirectly it had a global effect, you even had the Bank of America told by Bush himself to support/bail out Merrill Lynch which really should have been shut down.
Real Estate dived, not unlike Ireland's Celtic Tiger which died and left so many unfinished buildings as the cash had dried up...
It all points to Greed and for years malpractice had been covered up, hence our banks had to tidy up their act with the demarcation of Investment Banking to Retail Banking.
What about the Icelandic Banks offering 10% interest to Councils in the UK, who invested pension funds and lost the lot, and don't tell me they got it all back as that is not the case.
So when you ask me about banks, I think I know a little, you unfortunately seem to think that there was no domino effect.
Banks have now had their wings clipped, till the next time some chinless wonder finds ways of circumventing the rules...
What I fail to understand is how you have a lack of understanding for an energy company that went bust off the back of some dodgy accounting practices. Mortgage backed securities are a totally different animal that with no correlation to Enron. Apples and Pears, as usual. Same with the Icelandic banks, nothing to do with Enron.

You where really an auditor? In my old firm you would be slaughtered for the way you present your arguments.

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Wow, that's impressive ^^^^^^^^^^^ :blah:

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Making your coffee, no I didn't report to anyone in the post room ;)

My time was better spent offering consultancy services to their international client bank. If you genuinely worked in an accountancy firm I pity you for being a brexiteer, because you should have all the facts you need to make an informed decision. Even more so, being an accountant (which I am not) you should understand the Enron scandal better than most. The same goes for the Financial crisis. Yet on both counts you have shown you don't.

:barscarf: :barscarf: :roll:
I do understand Nutbush City Limits (Tina), and yes I have performed audits in loads of blue chip companies, and whilst working at Massachusetts at Staples ( not paper clips forgive the unintended pun ) the world seem to have crashed for the US after 9/11...
It was a bad one, and I remember saying the repercussions will gradually hit Europe, and I was not wrong.... :box:
If you was an auditor how can you hopelessly misunderstand the Enron scandal and it's non relationship with the banking crisis. It beggars belief.
What you fail to understand is that when the US farts we on our tiny island get the shit.
So Enron was the start in terms of the overstatement of funds and our banks had a huge stake in them.
Directly or indirectly it had a global effect, you even had the Bank of America told by Bush himself to support/bail out Merrill Lynch which really should have been shut down.
Real Estate dived, not unlike Ireland's Celtic Tiger which died and left so many unfinished buildings as the cash had dried up...
It all points to Greed and for years malpractice had been covered up, hence our banks had to tidy up their act with the demarcation of Investment Banking to Retail Banking.
What about the Icelandic Banks offering 10% interest to Councils in the UK, who invested pension funds and lost the lot, and don't tell me they got it all back as that is not the case.
So when you ask me about banks, I think I know a little, you unfortunately seem to think that there was no domino effect.
Banks have now had their wings clipped, till the next time some chinless wonder finds ways of circumventing the rules...
What I fail to understand is how you have a lack of understanding for an energy company that went bust off the back of some dodgy accounting practices. Mortgage backed securities are a totally different animal that with no correlation to Enron. Apples and Pears, as usual. Same with the Icelandic banks, nothing to do with Enron.

You where really an auditor? In my old firm you would be slaughtered for the way you present your arguments.
That's why you worked in the post room and had the odd share or two with a copy of the FT, waving it the air like Delboys Filofax, you Gordon Gekko you!...
Anyway back to Brexit.... :barscarf: :box:

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Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

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John

Using an ITALIAN companies strap line to emphasise your indifference to brexit.

Tickling ................

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Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

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Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
Allgunsblazin wrote:
I do understand Nutbush City Limits (Tina), and yes I have performed audits in loads of blue chip companies, and whilst working at Massachusetts at Staples ( not paper clips forgive the unintended pun ) the world seem to have crashed for the US after 9/11...
It was a bad one, and I remember saying the repercussions will gradually hit Europe, and I was not wrong.... :box:
If you was an auditor how can you hopelessly misunderstand the Enron scandal and it's non relationship with the banking crisis. It beggars belief.
What you fail to understand is that when the US farts we on our tiny island get the shit.
So Enron was the start in terms of the overstatement of funds and our banks had a huge stake in them.
Directly or indirectly it had a global effect, you even had the Bank of America told by Bush himself to support/bail out Merrill Lynch which really should have been shut down.
Real Estate dived, not unlike Ireland's Celtic Tiger which died and left so many unfinished buildings as the cash had dried up...
It all points to Greed and for years malpractice had been covered up, hence our banks had to tidy up their act with the demarcation of Investment Banking to Retail Banking.
What about the Icelandic Banks offering 10% interest to Councils in the UK, who invested pension funds and lost the lot, and don't tell me they got it all back as that is not the case.
So when you ask me about banks, I think I know a little, you unfortunately seem to think that there was no domino effect.
Banks have now had their wings clipped, till the next time some chinless wonder finds ways of circumventing the rules...
What I fail to understand is how you have a lack of understanding for an energy company that went bust off the back of some dodgy accounting practices. Mortgage backed securities are a totally different animal that with no correlation to Enron. Apples and Pears, as usual. Same with the Icelandic banks, nothing to do with Enron.

You where really an auditor? In my old firm you would be slaughtered for the way you present your arguments.
That's why you worked in the post room and had the odd share or two with a copy of the FT, waving it the air like Delboys Filofax, you Gordon Gekko you!...
Anyway back to Brexit.... :barscarf: :box:
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Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?

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John

Using an ITALIAN companies strap line to emphasise your indifference to brexit.

Tickling ................
And as usual your wrong , I am not indefferent to Brexit,I am positively for it ,but it will NOT happen.
I am however bored shitless with your humourless hectoring about a subject you talk about a lot about .
I doubt if I'm alone on this one either .

Oh and I'm not John either !

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