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Wilson wrote:So now Chelsea are lining up to sign Sanchez, whilst there are reports we will reluctantly sell Ozil unless he lowers his wage demands.
The club gauge the fans for ticket prices, raising them every fuking year from their already high point, yet signal to the fans that the best players to have played for us since Henry/Vieira/Bergkamp are going to be sold because the club doesnt want to spend the money to keep them (it would appear they would rather keep it).
For starters, their wage demands are within the ball park for what players of their caliber are being paid. So I really dont get the idea of not giving them what they want. Another thing, if Wenger thinks he can sell them and go back to Giroud upfront, or Ramsey/Wilshere to replace Ozil then he is fuking brain dead. He wont survive. The old french fool must realise his future at the club is tied to Ozil and Sanchez. The arrogance of that man to believe he could sell Ozil and Sanchez and retain any Arsenal fans belief going forward is stunning.
Im absolutely stunned by the clubs position on the issue. I thought when we shelled out 35m for Xhaka who is not even considered a starter, that we were in new found financial strengh and were serious about keeping our top players.
Is Wenger really that bothered about being paid less than any of the players? Jose never minded Ronaldo earning 500k a year which was over twice Jose's salary. Pep never minded Messi earning over 500k a year which is twice Pep's salary. Ferguson paid Rooney and Ronaldo more than him back in the day. All these brilliant managers never had any issue with earning less than one of their players, but apparently for Wenger, its an issue. Why? I think its a power issue - he is a control freak and the concept of the club valuing another person more in monetary terms just cuts Wenger's ego. He would rather remain the highest paid person at the club, even if it means setting the club club significantly by losing its two best players.
Tell me again the french fuk wit has Arsenal's best interest at heart...........the club is just his toy thing to manifest his own ego.
If he doesnt win the league, fuk off, if Ozil or Sanchz leave, he can fuk off. If both leave and we dont win the league, he can fuk off out tthe back door without even a thank you.
Brilliant post mate!
But the Wenger supporters will always have an excuse or many for their glorious leader.
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You have to remember that they only signed because Wenker was here, so of course they will want to stay........won't they ?
StuartL wrote:
But he is quite happy to sanction Giroud and Walcott on approx £130,000 -£140,000 per week when Alexis & Ozil are twice the players, genuine quality that would earn what they are apparently requesting at other clubs.
Agreed, but that doesn't mean a footballer is worth double the amount if they're twice as good. It just means that the lesser player is overpaid.
The BBC gossip today says that the club have resigned themselves to losing Ozil in the summer over wage demands they will not meet. It also suggests that Sanchez could be off to Chelsea (personally I don't believe that will happen). I actually think we will lose both players this summer and AW won't care. He'll have what he believes is a plan to cover those roles with equal quality at half the price. Deluded nonsense of course but he'll believe it. So once again we'll take a step back because of the lack of ambition shown by both our board and manager. Meanwhile the money keeps rolling in!
if Sanchez did go to Chelsea...that would be it for me.....could not take that
If wenger loses either of them through his inability to negotiate which is what it would be and either of them end up leaving then surely not even the most unconscious, single brain celled dumbass m'fuker of an AKB could possibly defend the cuntt then!
If either of them go - No matter to whom etc - Wenger will be hounded out of the club
If Sanchez goes after these lot get highest gate receipts and most expensive tickets, cant even imagine him at Chelsea think i would loose it big time
fucking unthinkable he should go there
Those AKBs will still defend him....fucking sheep....Red action....Untold Arsenal....wankers
This exactly - Wenger hounded out? No fucking chance. This will be another Fabregas/Nasri/RVP saga. Ozil and Sanchez will become 'O$il' and '$anch£z' in the minds of our braindead 'fans'. C_nts.
I'm surprised Ozil and Sanchez have lasted as long as they have to be honest - if they had a hint of ambition and common sense between them they'd have seen what's going on and been out of here a year or two ago
Wilson wrote:So now Chelsea are lining up to sign Sanchez, whilst there are reports we will reluctantly sell Ozil unless he lowers his wage demands.
The club gauge the fans for ticket prices, raising them every fuking year from their already high point, yet signal to the fans that the best players to have played for us since Henry/Vieira/Bergkamp are going to be sold because the club doesnt want to spend the money to keep them (it would appear they would rather keep it).
For starters, their wage demands are within the ball park for what players of their caliber are being paid. So I really dont get the idea of not giving them what they want. Another thing, if Wenger thinks he can sell them and go back to Giroud upfront, or Ramsey/Wilshere to replace Ozil then he is fuking brain dead. He wont survive. The old french fool must realise his future at the club is tied to Ozil and Sanchez. The arrogance of that man to believe he could sell Ozil and Sanchez and retain any Arsenal fans belief going forward is stunning.
Im absolutely stunned by the clubs position on the issue. I thought when we shelled out 35m for Xhaka who is not even considered a starter, that we were in new found financial strengh and were serious about keeping our top players.
Is Wenger really that bothered about being paid less than any of the players? Jose never minded Ronaldo earning 500k a year which was over twice Jose's salary. Pep never minded Messi earning over 500k a year which is twice Pep's salary. Ferguson paid Rooney and Ronaldo more than him back in the day. All these brilliant managers never had any issue with earning less than one of their players, but apparently for Wenger, its an issue. Why? I think its a power issue - he is a control freak and the concept of the club valuing another person more in monetary terms just cuts Wenger's ego. He would rather remain the highest paid person at the club, even if it means setting the club club significantly by losing its two best players.
Tell me again the french fuk wit has Arsenal's best interest at heart...........the club is just his toy thing to manifest his own ego.
If he doesnt win the league, fuk off, if Ozil or Sanchz leave, he can fuk off. If both leave and we dont win the league, he can fuk off out tthe back door without even a thank you.
If he wins the league he can fuck off if sanchez or ozil sign he can fuck off if both sign and we win the league
he can still fuck off
Agreed, but that doesn't mean a footballer is worth double the amount if they're twice as good. It just means that the lesser player is overpaid.
The BBC gossip today says that the club have resigned themselves to losing Ozil in the summer over wage demands they will not meet. It also suggests that Sanchez could be off to Chelsea (personally I don't believe that will happen). I actually think we will lose both players this summer and AW won't care. He'll have what he believes is a plan to cover those roles with equal quality at half the price. Deluded nonsense of course but he'll believe it. So once again we'll take a step back because of the lack of ambition shown by both our board and manager. Meanwhile the money keeps rolling in!
if Sanchez did go to Chelsea...that would be it for me.....could not take that
If wenger loses either of them through his inability to negotiate which is what it would be and either of them end up leaving then surely not even the most unconscious, single brain celled dumbass m'fuker of an AKB could possibly defend the cuntt then!
If either of them go - No matter to whom etc - Wenger will be hounded out of the club
If Sanchez goes after these lot get highest gate receipts and most expensive tickets, cant even imagine him at Chelsea think i would loose it big time
fucking unthinkable he should go there
Those AKBs will still defend him....fucking sheep....Red action....Untold Arsenal....wankers
This exactly - Wenger hounded out? No fucking chance. This will be another Fabregas/Nasri/RVP saga. Ozil and Sanchez will become 'O$il' and '$anch£z' in the minds of our braindead 'fans'. C_nts.
I'm surprised Ozil and Sanchez have lasted as long as they have to be honest - if they had a hint of ambition and common sense between them they'd have seen what's going on and been out of here a year or two ago
already feeding out quotes to his legion of sheep
Arsene Wenger has warned Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez that Arsenal is big enough to survive without them.
I keep hearing that Arsenal have problems keeping top players because of our wage structure. And all the Arsenal pundits and former players just go along with it - the wage structure. When why is no one asking, why does the club self-impose a wage structure that appears to do nothing than restrict our ability to keep world class players. You cant even make the argument that it helps control wages, as our wage bill is 200m, whilst Chelsea, City and Man United are around the 220m mark. So our wage bill is 90% of that of Chelsea, City and United. Yet for some reason, we are vulnerable to Chelsea and City capacity to offer more cash. Of Ozil and Sanchez's wages were doubled to 280k a week, it would cost an extra 14m a season. Is that really a breaking point for Arsenal? Are we that stretched that we would rather see Ozil and Sanchez leave to domestic rivals, simply to keep an extra 14m a season?
There is the obvious football losses seeing Ozil and Sanchez leave, but what about the pride and dignity of seeing two to players flee to our rivals. Does the club not embarrass and feel shame as Cesc, RVP and Nasri win the CL with Chelsea, United and City?
Does it all come down to the unwillingness to break the 'wage structure'. An abstract concept that is not a regulation, but rather a self-imposed rule, and the purpose of the rule cannot be explained at all.
Why are people in the media not questioning the wage strucutre. Fuking Thierry Henry, 'it will be hard for Arsenal because of the wage structure'. Heres an idea Thierry, 'why not then fuk the wage structure off??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/?
Wilson wrote:I keep hearing that Arsenal have problems keeping top players because of our wage structure. And all the Arsenal pundits and former players just go along with it - the wage structure. When why is no one asking, why does the club self-impose a wage structure that appears to do nothing than restrict our ability to keep world class players. You cant even make the argument that it helps control wages, as our wage bill is 200m, whilst Chelsea, City and Man United are around the 220m mark. So our wage bill is 90% of that of Chelsea, City and United. Yet for some reason, we are vulnerable to Chelsea and City capacity to offer more cash. Of Ozil and Sanchez's wages were doubled to 280k a week, it would cost an extra 14m a season. Is that really a breaking point for Arsenal? Are we that stretched that we would rather see Ozil and Sanchez leave to domestic rivals, simply to keep an extra 14m a season?
There is the obvious football losses seeing Ozil and Sanchez leave, but what about the pride and dignity of seeing two to players flee to our rivals. Does the club not embarrass and feel shame as Cesc, RVP and Nasri win the CL with Chelsea, United and City?
Does it all come down to the unwillingness to break the 'wage structure'. An abstract concept that is not a regulation, but rather a self-imposed rule, and the purpose of the rule cannot be explained at all.
Why are people in the media not questioning the wage strucutre. Fuking Thierry Henry, 'it will be hard for Arsenal because of the wage structure'. Heres an idea Thierry, 'why not then fuk the wage structure off??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/?
Wilson stop being so naive, the club is a business not a football club, the bit in red, the club doesn't care it only sees ££££££££££££££££££££££££££
We fans may get embarrassed but for them it is just good business
Wilson wrote:I keep hearing that Arsenal have problems keeping top players because of our wage structure. And all the Arsenal pundits and former players just go along with it - the wage structure. When why is no one asking, why does the club self-impose a wage structure that appears to do nothing than restrict our ability to keep world class players. You cant even make the argument that it helps control wages, as our wage bill is 200m, whilst Chelsea, City and Man United are around the 220m mark. So our wage bill is 90% of that of Chelsea, City and United. Yet for some reason, we are vulnerable to Chelsea and City capacity to offer more cash. Of Ozil and Sanchez's wages were doubled to 280k a week, it would cost an extra 14m a season. Is that really a breaking point for Arsenal? Are we that stretched that we would rather see Ozil and Sanchez leave to domestic rivals, simply to keep an extra 14m a season?
There is the obvious football losses seeing Ozil and Sanchez leave, but what about the pride and dignity of seeing two to players flee to our rivals. Does the club not embarrass and feel shame as Cesc, RVP and Nasri win the CL with Chelsea, United and City?
Does it all come down to the unwillingness to break the 'wage structure'. An abstract concept that is not a regulation, but rather a self-imposed rule, and the purpose of the rule cannot be explained at all.
Why are people in the media not questioning the wage strucutre. Fuking Thierry Henry, 'it will be hard for Arsenal because of the wage structure'. Heres an idea Thierry, 'why not then fuk the wage structure off??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/?
Wilson stop being so naive, the club is a business not a football club, the bit in red, the club doesn't care it only sees ££££££££££££££££££££££££££
We fans may get embarrassed but for them it is just good business
Arsene Wenger has warned Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez that Arsenal is big enough to survive without them.
Interesting he chose the word 'survive'. Of course we would fucking survive. Improve on the other hand ... not a fucking chance!
What that fucker doesnt seem to grasp is that big clubs selling big players is only acceptable when you replace them with other big players. You dont sell RvP to a rival and then buy Olivier fucking Giroud as a replacement .
Arsene Wenger has warned Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez that Arsenal is big enough to survive without them.
Interesting he chose the word 'survive'. Of course we would fucking survive. Improve on the other hand ... not a fucking chance!
What that fucker doesnt seem to grasp is that big clubs selling big players is only acceptable when you replace them with other big players. You dont sell RvP to a rival and then buy Olivier fucking Giroud as a replacement .
Bang on the moeny there mate!
Wenger is an agent of profit NOT a Football manager - He along with the owner put's Profit before trophies. Both Utter C.U.N.Ts.
As a matter of interest does our "wage structure" apply to Wenger???
If he stayed for another decade I would imagine he would be on close to £20m by 2025. But he'll have earned it you see by saving us millions and not wasting it on greedy "mercenaries" like Sanchez & Ozil
Walcott stating today no one will fancy meeting Arsenal in CL....reminiscent of his bragging last year when he said Europe will be scared of facing Arsenal
This is exactly the issue with Wenger, no control over his players....to be fair Walcott has shown marked improvement this season (not difficult agreed) just sense a state of mind where they start to relax and believe the hype
What they have to do now is work harder, improve and set new targets, they have won nothing yet....
Redarmy wrote:Walcott stating today no one will fancy meeting Arsenal in CL....reminiscent of his bragging last year when he said Europe will be scared of facing Arsenal
This is exactly the issue with Wenger, no control over his players....to be fair Walcott has shown marked improvement this season (not difficult agreed) just sense a state of mind where they start to relax and believe the hype
What they have to do now is work harder, improve and set new targets, they have won nothing yet....
Christ I really wish Walcott would just shut the fuck up. Every season, he goes on a bit of a run and scores 5 or 6 goals, we go on a nice run of wins, Walcott and Ramsey start yacking billy big bollocks in the press and then Walcott goes back to being useless, we STILL get knocked out of the FA Cup and the CL and finish 10-20 points off the champions in the PL.
Redarmy wrote:Walcott stating today no one will fancy meeting Arsenal in CL....reminiscent of his bragging last year when he said Europe will be scared of facing Arsenal
This is exactly the issue with Wenger, no control over his players....to be fair Walcott has shown marked improvement this season (not difficult agreed) just sense a state of mind where they start to relax and believe the hype
What they have to do now is work harder, improve and set new targets, they have won nothing yet....
yeah I am sure everyone will be really scared of us.
In 2016 we have managed to beat 2 european sides - those heavyweights, Basle and Ludovogets
he can fuck off 
Every season, he goes on a bit of a run and scores 5 or 6 goals, we go on a nice run of wins, Walcott and Ramsey start yacking billy big bollocks in the press and then Walcott goes back to being useless, we STILL get knocked out of the FA Cup and the CL and finish 10-20 points off the champions in the PL. 
