THE WENGER THREAD

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DB10GOONER wrote:
TeeCee wrote:We sign an Ozil or a Sanchez and AKB's say 'See, we are signing the best, spending money'.........which is true....to a point. We have a transfer budget, everyone does, we earned over 80m last season through the Sky deal on it's own so we didn't even break into any transfer budget/existing funds (of which we know are significant). So it's not ambitious to sign an Ozil or Sanchez. It's ambitious to sign TWO or THREE players of that stature!!!! If you look at the net spend at the end of each transfer window, Arsenal never spend massively. Wonga ALWAYS makes sure he doesn't spend much, his financial bonus relies on this!!
Big club? No, it's not. :roll:
100% agreed. What also bugs me is the bullshit about him being a genius economist of some kind... and yet for all the money he "saves" by not signing those 3 or 4 top class players we need, he throws millions in wages at numerous poor to average players. Take marshmallow legs Gibbs for example. How much has been pissed away on him and for what return? A perma-crocked lad that cannot cross a ball, that never takes his man on down the wing and that is often suspect in defence. And then there is/was Diaby... :roll: :lol:

Economist my hairy hole... :roll: :banghead:
Real fans have patience.........Wenker is just keeping his powder dry untill all those clubs he confidently forecast going bust collapse, leaving us to cherry pick all the best players with our "war chest" of stockpiled cash.

Any time soon.

Just you wait and see.

If not this year, then definitely next year.

:rubchin:

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...or the year after that... :wink:

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Has the old krunt extended the purgatory as yet? We all know the dark day is imminent, so they might as well stop with the pretence of there being any sort of reservation in offering a new contract.

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John Cross writes their is a 2 year contract on the table.

Why is thier the option to sign, given this year could see us finish outside the top 4, and lose both Ozil and Sanchez. Shouldnt the club be withholding a deal, given the possibility of failing to achieve the absolute bare minimum is a possibility.

Now wonder we are a soft touch, with this mentality.

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Wilson wrote:John Cross writes their is a 2 year contract on the table.

Why is thier the option to sign, given this year could see us finish outside the top 4, and lose both Ozil and Sanchez. Shouldnt the club be withholding a deal, given the possibility of failing to achieve the absolute bare minimum is a possibility.

Now wonder we are a soft touch, with this mentality.
But but but who else is there ?

:rubchin: :rubchin: :banghead:

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StuartL wrote:
Wilson wrote:John Cross writes their is a 2 year contract on the table.

Why is thier the option to sign, given this year could see us finish outside the top 4, and lose both Ozil and Sanchez. Shouldnt the club be withholding a deal, given the possibility of failing to achieve the absolute bare minimum is a possibility.

Now wonder we are a soft touch, with this mentality.
But but but who else is there ?

:rubchin: :rubchin: :banghead:

all i can say is be careful what you wish for........Blah Blah Blah

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Redarmy wrote:
StuartL wrote:
Wilson wrote:John Cross writes their is a 2 year contract on the table.

Why is thier the option to sign, given this year could see us finish outside the top 4, and lose both Ozil and Sanchez. Shouldnt the club be withholding a deal, given the possibility of failing to achieve the absolute bare minimum is a possibility.

Now wonder we are a soft touch, with this mentality.
But but but who else is there ?

:rubchin: :rubchin: :banghead:

all i can say is be careful what you wish for........Blah Blah Blah
A mate of a mate came out with that immortal phrase the other day, don't really know him but knew he was a Gooner so thought I'd pass the time of day with him for a bit. Wish I hadn't bothered :roll:

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Wilson wrote:John Cross writes their is a 2 year contract on the table.

Why is thier the option to sign, given this year could see us finish outside the top 4, and lose both Ozil and Sanchez. Shouldnt the club be withholding a deal, given the possibility of failing to achieve the absolute bare minimum is a possibility.

Now wonder we are a soft touch, with this mentality.
Every single time this *word censored*'s contract is up for renewal we have this fucking saga. Even since the late 90s, he's done all this "I'll wait and see and sign it when the time is right". He's held the club to ransom over the years and for the last decade at least, he's had a tantrum and got what he wants every single day of his life. If he had any fucking respect and any affection for the good of the club, he would simply fuck off. As it is, he'll act like the narcissist he is and wait and wait and if there is even the glimmer of something that he can spin into a propaganda exercise, he'll sign a new deal. Just fucking fuck off.

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2 year deal on the table :oops: it's an his desk already signed ffs :( The powers that be are just waiting for a run of flat track brownholings..we've won 3 of our last 4..and came from 3down in the other (doesn't matter we stunk the place out)
2 or 3 more should do it,and it'll be announced.

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137 days of the current contract to go :barscarf:

Then the worst kept secret at the club occurs and TOF signs on the final day for maximum effect :suicide:

That would make it 867 days to go :banghead:

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Sean wrote:137 days of the current contract to go :barscarf:

Then the worst kept secret at the club occurs and TOF signs on the final day for maximum effect :suicide:

That would make it 867 days to go :banghead:
And the rest Sean and the rest..

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Wenger quoted today ...."Sir Alex Ferguson once said i would be a good poker player when i sold Robin Van Persie. Maybe he was right"

Think that goes some way to analysing Wenger character

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Redarmy wrote:Wenger quoted today ...."Sir Alex Ferguson once said i would be a good poker player when i sold Robin Van Persie. Maybe he was right"

Think that goes some way to analysing Wenger character
I thought poker players were supposed to be difficult to "read". You can read Wenger like a book.

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StuartL wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
TeeCee wrote:We sign an Ozil or a Sanchez and AKB's say 'See, we are signing the best, spending money'.........which is true....to a point. We have a transfer budget, everyone does, we earned over 80m last season through the Sky deal on it's own so we didn't even break into any transfer budget/existing funds (of which we know are significant). So it's not ambitious to sign an Ozil or Sanchez. It's ambitious to sign TWO or THREE players of that stature!!!! If you look at the net spend at the end of each transfer window, Arsenal never spend massively. Wonga ALWAYS makes sure he doesn't spend much, his financial bonus relies on this!!
Big club? No, it's not. :roll:
100% agreed. What also bugs me is the bullshit about him being a genius economist of some kind... and yet for all the money he "saves" by not signing those 3 or 4 top class players we need, he throws millions in wages at numerous poor to average players. Take marshmallow legs Gibbs for example. How much has been pissed away on him and for what return? A perma-crocked lad that cannot cross a ball, that never takes his man on down the wing and that is often suspect in defence. And then there is/was Diaby... :roll: :lol:

Economist my hairy hole... :roll: :banghead:
Real fans have patience.........Wenker is just keeping his powder dry untill all those clubs he confidently forecast going bust collapse, leaving us to cherry pick all the best players with our "war chest" of stockpiled cash.

Any time soon.

Just you wait and see.

If not this year, then definitely next year.

:rubchin:
Ah yes, I remember those times of Wenger talking about clubs going bankrupt. What he didnt see, that the escalation in spending was supported by increased commercial and match-day revenues across European football. His economics ideas arnt worth jack shit. Which major club has gone bankrupt?

Then I look at us, the club which receives as much match day revenue as Real Madrid, which is more than all other clubs. Yet at the same time, we always appear short of cash. I always wonder, who is managing the clubs liquidity and finances? Why is it United, Chelsea and City have all pioneered groundbreaking commercial deals, whilst we always play catch up? Its also only us and Man City to sell stadium rights. So not only does matchday tickets generate more revenue than our domestic rivals, we sell rights to the stadium, yet despite all this, wer told not to expect big singings, and that we cant afford to compete at the top end of wages. So many Arsenal fans shrug their shoulders and say 'okay Arsene, whatever you say'. I however think, that our finances are poorly managed, and more could be done in terms of making funds available for wages and transfers fees, if our money were better managed.

This also fits in with the broader narrative, of how so many of our fans just take the Clubs and Wengers answers to questions.

We cant compete for the top wages
We cant compete for the top transfer fees
We cant pay Ozil and Sanchez 220k a week.

So many fans just take this as a given, whilst to all those questions, I ask 'wtf not?'

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On taking alexis off: "no need to be stupid".

You mean like playing Santi against the Farmers?

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