THE WENGER THREAD

[Wilson]

The tragic thing is, words like 'stunned' and 'unlucky' are being used.

Its not a surprise at all. 3-4-5-6 goal deficits against top teams are actually quite common - why does no one in the media point this out?

[Wilson]

Even Martin Keown is saying 'Wenger must consider his future'. Thats when you know its really bad.

Now surely he cant go on like this? If he said he wont renew, it would really allow the fans to at least give him some sort of positive send off. All the critics, myself included, I believe would cheer him on one last time if he was to announce this is his last season. But if he is thinking about staying - then we cant have it, we will need to ride him and jeer him at every given opportunity. The right thing for Wenger to do, is to leave, and if he cant see that, then this misery is only going to continue for both fans and manager.

Its moved beyond anger and frustration, to being just downright depressing and sad.

[BFG4]

isn't the media so brave, with their calls for Wenger to go. How many seasons do we see the media follow each other like sheep, and criticise Wenger(when it's fashionable to do so), and then turn around and take a pro Wenger stance, once we have finished in the top 4. Also, considering that Chelsea aside, two out of Arsenal, l'pool, Spurs, Man United and Man city wont be in the top 4, means any VT position will be spun as a great accomplishment by the media.

[flash gunner]

It has to be over now for Wenger, doesn't it?

Even Keown said it tonight

[Blood_Gooner]

Here it is, lads: http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/38984704



PS I'm bringing forward the motion that SteveO be allowed to once again use his There's Only One line carte blanche at the end of his posts.

[Clash]

0/19 for The Old Fraud in the Be All and End All.

One final appearance. Two semi-final appearances.

FUCK OFF!

Ah but qualified 20 times, that's way more important than winning, don't you remember being told it's the taking part that counts not the winning

I see you've both fallen for the old 1 final, 2 semi finals thing.

1 final, 1 semi final is all that needs to be said !

If you make the final there is no need to mention the semi final that you played in to get there.

Saying 1 final, 2 semi finals makes it sound like there are 3 seasons that we got to the last four.

In fact you are both making Wenger's CL record sound better than it really is. No wonder the bastard gets new contracts and runs the show with this outrageous spin and manipulation of the facts.

Yes ... you both have the clubs blood on your hands !

[Clash]

Remind me again, who is the most successful manager Arsenal have ever had?

Remind me again who is the Arsenal manager that went a record 9 seasons without winning a trophy? And which Arsenal manager has not won anything in Europe? Also which Arsenal manager has finished empty more than any other at the end of a season ? (13 times)

So the man you call Arsenals most successful manager (on the basis of him winning 9 trophies I assume) can also be called Arsenals most unsuccessful manager (on the basis that he has had more failures than any of the others).

The latter can of course partly be put down to the unusually large amount of time he has spent at the club ... but then so can the 9 trophies.



Personally I rate George Grahams 6 trophies in 8 seasons as the better record. And the fact that GG won all three domestic trophies and a European one too makes him our most successful manager for me. He even won our only other European trophy as part of the team.

[cameron326]

Makes me laugh all these pundits suddenly doing an about face on Wenger. It almost makes me want to say "You can't judge him on one result!!!"

I want to ask them what's so bad about Groundhog Season 9 that was forgiveable about Groundhog Season 6 or Groundhog Season 8? Once in a blue moon triumphs in the devalued domestic cup completion? How have we gone from being so, so, so wrong about him being a bad fit for the club to now being on the money. It's almost as if we were right all along when we said last 16 humiliation and top 4 was as good as it could ever get under Wenger, and that that level of sporting ambition should not be acceptable for the biggest club in the biggest city in Europe. It's almost as if they were talking shit for the last five seasons but have now realised they're starting to look stupid coming out with the "be careful what you wish for" line, even the most conservative of football follower.

Don't judge him in on one game!!! Give him another summer!!! Judge him next May!!! Be careful what you wish for!!! One season out of the Champions League and the club will implode!!!
Come on guys, stick to your guns!

[cameron326]

The claim that AW is a more successful manager than George Graham -

One woman gets screwed twenty times and comes nine times. Another woman gets screwed eight times and comes six times? Which is the more successful dildo, A or B?
(3 points, show your working)

[Wilson]

Graham's 2 titles in 8 years is a better ratio than Wenger's 3 in 21.

The issue is however, is there is a cult of personality with Wenger. Too many people are prepared to buy into these myths about him. Such as, 'he built the stadium'. When really, the stadium was paid for by the fans who have for 10 years straight pumped more match day revenue into the club, than any other set of fans have generated for their club. Another is he 'modernized the club'. What does that mean exactly? Some say he brought us out of the George Graham days as if thats a bad thing. Graham's Arsenal were a modern say Atletico Madrid - a well oiled mean machine.Whats so great about Wenger inheriting one of the most famous defences in English football history, and eroding it to replace it with the current dog shit?

Once you start to investigate the sound bites and anecdotal tales about Wenger. You come to realise he the emperor with no clothes. Just look at him post match - he looks like an old senile man who shit himself and is trying to be coy about it.

[StanleyIpkiss]

It's so true, Wenger has been one of the worst things to happen to Arsenal football club long term. If Wenger wasn't such a slithering snake and had been exposed sooner, say around 2008 when the penny was starting to drop that this guy aint what we all thought, things could have been a lot different. Wenger knew exactly what Stan Kroenke was all about, but got into bed with him at the expense of the club, for his own freedom of the club and monstrous wages. Silent Stan silently ate up all the shares whilst a PR campaign against Usmanov and Red and White Holdings got under way. Even though his old mate Dein was on that side he wasn't interested. That whole situation was fishy anyway in my opinion.

Now Kroenke has his feet well and truly under the table, and his track record in sports 'franchises' proves he is not interested at all in the competitive side of it, just keeping it ticking along for his portfolio of wealth, I really fear for Arsenal. We were so close but ultimately Arsene Wenger had conned us all and is the worst thing that has happened to Arsenal Football Club. Even if we get Allegri, I can see some improvement but not enough to match the improvements are rivals are making. The squad stinks. Our reputation in Europe now is a joke. Can you imagine a Dennis Bergkamp for example choosing to sign for us now? I really hope I'm wrong but I think Kroenke is the worst thing that has happened and Wenger is to blame for facilitating the cloak and dagger way he took over, completely abusing his goodwill with the fans. I just shudder to think there are still fans that back him. Honestly hate the guy now, which I never dreamed of when we were in 98-04.

I just think, If Kroenke was even the slightest bit serious, he would never have given Wenger that extension 2014. No way, it was the same situation as now, nothing changed, only that people have got tired of the repetition. It hasn't suddenly got worse, it's exactly the same. That's when I knew we were doomed. How can we ever get Kroenke to sell up?

[OneBardGooner]

I do not care what Wenger has achieved in the past - The important thing is the Now and Tomorrow. So if "we" want our Football Club back we are going to have to fight for it. So Fukc Wenger and Fukc Kroenke - both are Bad for our Football Club.

Protest, Argue, Write, Telephone,Make Our Opposition Known Loud & Clear.

First we get rid of Wenger - Then We get Rid of Kroenke.

Till then I am done.

Any AKB's come my way had better look out.

#WENGER OUT #WIGGY OUT.

[Blade]

Mourino =The Special one
Klopp =The Normal one
Aw= 5:1

[Bradywasking]

See John Cross has questioned Wenger's future. Saying the team has gone backwards. Well John fuck off and stay with Wenger, He needs you more than we do.

[Redarmy]

JUST FUCKING GO YOU CLUELESS OLD MAN...FUCKING RETIRE