THE WENGER THREAD

[StanleyIpkiss]

Because Sanchez is a winner and Wenger accepts 2nd/3rd/4th best,and to Sanchez that's not acceptable,or so it seems,we'll never know the truth,Arsene's PR department will see to that,but I'm sure Wenger is wholly to blame,for the players he buys to the under-performing players he continues to pick,to his woeful tactics and his poor motivation of his teams,I'd love to see Sanchez stay but I would be amazed if he does,and that's down to Wenger,I think Sanchez would tolerate our gutless performances if he was playing,but to be dropped for the Liverpool game must have destroyed his pride,and thats why I think he'll be gone.

I don't think even if we offered him his asking price he'll stay now,I think the damage is done,

Agreed totally on Wenger, have no fear.

As for "destroying his pride", not so sure.
If Arsenal had won 3-0, then probably, but it was clear to everyone that when Sanchez came on we played better, so I think Sanchez won that one pretty clearly. Think that did wonders for his pride!

Also not sure whether he would tolerate our gutless performances if he was playing. I would go mad playing with these bottlers.

I think he'll go, but where will he go?

Juve? Maybe, but not sure who the manager will be, and does he want to go back to Juve after Udinese? If he has any heart then he must know that going to Juve is the c.untiest thing you can do.
Germany? Well, there's only Bayern, and they don't need him?
Back to Spain? Well, there you have another problem. Where to, if not Barca? And do Barca want him back.

Questions, questions.

But Wenger, yes, he's made this mess with his whole attitude. He is a fraud. Always was. I'm glad people are seeing it now.

Juventus will be in for him and is my prediction, I can see him as a front 3 of Sanchez Higuain Dybala. I'm sure he will have no problem going to Juve to win titles. Inter will be in for him too, they have money to burn now. Bayern would take him to freshen up the forward line with the ageing Ribery and Robben. PSG would have him though they have just signed Draxler so probably don't need him. He has a year on his contract so he will be going for a reduced price so include Man City and Chelsea in that too. Barca or Real Madrid he makes the bench I think so possibly Atletico Madrid.

[StanleyIpkiss]

On the post match discussion one point i will agree with was what Lineker and Wrighty pointed out if a top class manager takes over we'll see exactly who holds the purse strings

I know its been debated on here before but i'm far from convinced a top class manager would agree to manage here, especially if the funds aren't available. The rebuilding work required is immense and as we've all discussed the number of players you'd have to replace potentially on a tight budget is staggering.

I'm also not convinced that a new manager could get the best out of the players we have simply because the work ethic is not there for a good number of them, and even selling a number of players might not increase the budget much because i have a feeling that would be factored into the 'available' budget.

Lets be brutally honest a new manager would have to do at least as much rebuilding as 'The Chosen *word censored*' at Man U but i'm willing to bet with a much smaller budget, how many winning managers would be willing to stake their reputations on turning us around in say half a season because that's about all the AKBs would give him

I agree, we are fuckd. Kroenke if he has any sense will cash in when Wenger goes, on his shares. he's will have made a fortune, maybe £500k, not bad for 8 years or so of doing fook all. Hopefully then we can start to be the club we should be.

[StanleyIpkiss]

The bloke is deluded, finished, stubborn and out of touch/outdated with the whole club and the supporter base.

The board are old/outdated/haven't got a clue about football and quite frankly the club is shambolic at the moment.

Even when the old senile bastard pisses off, we will still have a clueless board who are running this GREAT club in the ground.

What is really getting on my f***** tits is the media and some of the support base who have low expectations because of the senile f***** old c*** who has lied for 12 years and deflected all blame and used every excuse in the book to try and cover for his failings.

As a football club we were on bar with the best clubs in the world in 2006. We were on Barcelona's level. And you have dickheads on twitter i.e. Oliver Kay (C***) and John Cross (smithers) telling us that we should be more grateful we aren't in f***** ORIENT, BLACKBURN AND CHARLTON's position!!

I FORGOT they pay the highest ticket prices in world football to watch shit football whilst being told we would be on Bayern Munich's level..

I FORGOT that they made a UCL final in 2006...

I FORGOT that they went a whole season undefeated to come to this rabble we are now...

F*** me. Comparing the Arsenal to Blackburn, Orient and Charlton.

Could you see Barcelona being in this predicimant 11 years after 2006? Not challenging for 11 years? Could you?

Nah, but we should be grateful. We have patient enough with this f***** shambles of a club and a senile old deluded disrespectful c*** of a manager.

I've fucking had a enough of the lot of them.

what he said. an absolute joke of a football club. seems like the directors etc want to make as much cash now and don't care about the future of the club. It's only heading in one direction. and it's not the next level. ("the next level is the next level, the next level up!" rambled some totally senile old bastard)

[markyp]

On the post match discussion one point i will agree with was what Lineker and Wrighty pointed out if a top class manager takes over we'll see exactly who holds the purse strings

I know its been debated on here before but i'm far from convinced a top class manager would agree to manage here, especially if the funds aren't available. The rebuilding work required is immense and as we've all discussed the number of players you'd have to replace potentially on a tight budget is staggering.

I'm also not convinced that a new manager could get the best out of the players we have simply because the work ethic is not there for a good number of them, and even selling a number of players might not increase the budget much because i have a feeling that would be factored into the 'available' budget.

Lets be brutally honest a new manager would have to do at least as much rebuilding as 'The Chosen *word censored*' at Man U but i'm willing to bet with a much smaller budget, how many winning managers would be willing to stake their reputations on turning us around in say half a season because that's about all the AKBs would give him

I agree, we are fuckd. Kroenke if he has any sense will cash in when Wenger goes, on his shares. he's will have made a fortune, maybe £500k, not bad for 8 years or so of doing fook all. Hopefully then we can start to be the club we should be.

I don't agree,wenger wasted 80m in the summer,that was enough to buy the quality we needed,he failed,the current squad managed properly could win a title hands down,its not all down to signing pogbas at 90m

[xisstential]

Blaming the ref for last nights defeat. He is beyond help. Driving home from the protest last night...Cundy on Talksport was absolutely tearing Wenger and the team apart. Unbelievably, or should I say unsurprisingly, at least half of the phone in callers were still supporting ToF

[Redarmy]

Wenger totally deluded to the point of insanity.....He will not leave, He will sign a new contract....regardless of what happens


We have to stand up and give all kind of explanations but at the end of the day the referee is the reason for this result.

“There was no uncertainty in our game. I felt we played very well. That is what leaves me very angry and frustrated.

[Wilson]

Wenger totally deluded to the point of insanity.....He will not leave, He will sign a new contract....regardless of what happens


We have to stand up and give all kind of explanations but at the end of the day the referee is the reason for this result.

“There was no uncertainty in our game. I felt we played very well. That is what leaves me very angry and frustrated.

He is that guy at the party who has overstayed his welcome, but simply wont leave.

[rodders999]

If love to know what percentage of the club's heaviest defeats have occurred under shit for brains?

So many 4s, 5s, 6s and even a fucking 8 down trough the years. An absolute disgrace.

[TeeCee]

He is not leaving! In his eyes he does nothing wrong....EVER! It's ALWAYS someone else!! Wonga is a despicable man, a lying, narcissistic, myopic, greedy, delusional, power mad fool, a despot. He won't walk away, he's like an old alcoholic who can't accept he has a problem, he sees himself as the saviour of Arsenal football club, an oracle of everything football. He isn't going fellas, not a chance, he will be there until he dies or he is sacked and he will never be sacked whilst Kroenke is in charge. Arsenal are dead, long live the king! (sic)

[Clash]

Havent seen much of the game from last night but I saw Wenger's comment that he was ''revolted'' at the referee and he was ''sorry for the people who paid a lot of money for the game''

Fucking what????

You didnt say sorry for the fact that people who had paid a lot of money were seeing your team start the game 5-1 behind did you, you fucking fraud?

Or ever say sorry for any of the other debacles did you. Or any of the game you've ever done. Ever

[NickF]

On the post match discussion one point i will agree with was what Lineker and Wrighty pointed out if a top class manager takes over we'll see exactly who holds the purse strings

I know its been debated on here before but i'm far from convinced a top class manager would agree to manage here, especially if the funds aren't available. The rebuilding work required is immense and as we've all discussed the number of players you'd have to replace potentially on a tight budget is staggering.

I'm also not convinced that a new manager could get the best out of the players we have simply because the work ethic is not there for a good number of them, and even selling a number of players might not increase the budget much because i have a feeling that would be factored into the 'available' budget.

Lets be brutally honest a new manager would have to do at least as much rebuilding as 'The Chosen *word censored*' at Man U but i'm willing to bet with a much smaller budget, how many winning managers would be willing to stake their reputations on turning us around in say half a season because that's about all the AKBs would give him

Wenger spent best part of 100m in the summer. Funds are made available.

Nick £100M is nowhere near enough, not by a long shot! How many of our players would you honestly keep to build a title challenging team, never mind a winning one?

His replacement is screwed and has no chance unless by some miracle he is Houdini and God rolled into one, Wenger has done a hatchet job on the club i just don't think we realise how much yet

Take Sanchez's goals and assists out the team and even with a half decent replacement i dread to think where we'd be with this squad

We are still wasting a lot of money. Wenger's idea is to do it on the cheap which is why we have a load of £15m strikers (Giroud, Welbeck, Perez) also Sonogoals and not a really world class striker. If you spend 100m every summer on real top quality you will get a decent squad. When did Debuchy last kick a ball for us and he must be on a decent wage.

[northbank123]

Not doing himself any favours using words like "brave" and "proud" to describe a 5-goal collapse in front of our own fans.

Pretty much at the stage where anybody who hasn't turned against him yet never will.

[rodders999]

Fuck you ungrateful bastards I’m going organising a counter demo before Lincoln, marching from one building on our property portfolio to another. Anyone able to put me in touch with The Cock, apologies The Cook, to see if RedWankers still have some “I Love AW” t-shirts in stock?

Anyway just got my banner done and am good to go –

“HATE USMANOV, LOVE LABRADORS"

[Gunner Rob]

he is just not going to go is he?

I have been trying to understand the mindset at the club and I think it is like this:

Wenger has yet again achieved the last 16 match for the club - the result is IRRELEVANT to them.
Last night was a category A match with all tickets sold. 60,000 mugs thinks Stan Kroenke

so what that we got hammered at Anfield and Chelsea - it is an expectation and doesnt really affect the real aim of reaching the top 4.
the only recent result which was and could cause a problem for the club is the home defeat to Watford. that result puts the top 4 position under threat. however I have become convinced this season that a top 4 finish is no longer such a big issue to the club because of the new added money from the TV deal.

I think we will finish 5th, get hammered by Spurs in the FA Cup semi final and Wenger will get offered a new 2 year deal "to try and restore some of his success" to the club, completely ignoring the fact that he has been responsible for the gradual decline.
Kroenke will allow this "1 year of failure" I am sure.

[DB10GOONER]

he is just not going to go is he?

I have been trying to understand the mindset at the club and I think it is like this:

Wenger has yet again achieved the last 16 match for the club - the result is IRRELEVANT to them.
Last night was a category A match with all tickets sold. 60,000 mugs thinks Stan Kroenke

so what that we got hammered at Anfield and Chelsea - it is an expectation and doesnt really affect the real aim of reaching the top 4.
the only recent result which was and could cause a problem for the club is the home defeat to Watford. that result puts the top 4 position under threat. however I have become convinced this season that a top 4 finish is no longer such a big issue to the club because of the new added money from the TV deal.

I think we will finish 5th, get hammered by Spurs in the FA Cup semi final and Wenger will get offered a new 2 year deal "to try and restore some of his success" to the club, completely ignoring the fact that he has been responsible for the gradual decline.
Kroenke will allow this "1 year of failure" I am sure.

I agree with most of that tbh. We are not a football club anymore, we are a business. Even if we finished 7th, got hammered in the FA cup whatever round, Kroenke and the board would give Wenger a new 2 year deal to "turn it around, he has earned that right, he should decide if and when he goes, he built the club, he zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...." Bang!