THE WENGER THREAD

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VoiceOfReason wrote:Now I'm really confused (doesn't take much tbh!)

So if we finish fourth and Man Utd come fifth and win the Europa, they'd take our CL spot?

This sounds too good to be true!
No...I don't think thats true...I think we will have 5 teams in...Top 4 and Europa winners. I think :? :?

We're in, we're in..... Wenger deserves it tbh :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
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VoiceOfReason wrote:Now I'm really confused (doesn't take much tbh!)

So if we finish fourth and Man Utd come fifth and win the Europa, they'd take our CL spot?

This sounds too good to be true!
no they would just have a 5th CL spot.
and am I right in thinking that if Man United finish top 4 and then we finish 5th we will still qualify for the CL ? :rubchin:

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Gunner Rob wrote:
VoiceOfReason wrote:Now I'm really confused (doesn't take much tbh!)

So if we finish fourth and Man Utd come fifth and win the Europa, they'd take our CL spot?

This sounds too good to be true!
no they would just have a 5th CL spot.
and am I right in thinking that if Man United finish top 4 and then we finish 5th we will still qualify for the CL ? :rubchin:
Sevilla finished 7th last year but only four Spanish teams were in the cl as far a second I can see.

****I see that Villarreal lost in the playoff*****

Fuck me Wenger is going to get and get out of jail card
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Blasted with both barrels by Burley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUu2mZWm3NM

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Tollgoon wrote:Blasted with both barrels by Burley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUu2mZWm3NM
He really didn't hold back or actually haven't done so for a longer time now. Who is this guy anyway? He's had some sort of playing career, right?

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:
Gunner Rob wrote:
VoiceOfReason wrote:Now I'm really confused (doesn't take much tbh!)

So if we finish fourth and Man Utd come fifth and win the Europa, they'd take our CL spot?

This sounds too good to be true!
no they would just have a 5th CL spot.
and am I right in thinking that if Man United finish top 4 and then we finish 5th we will still qualify for the CL ? :rubchin:
Sevilla finished 7th last year but only four Spanish teams were in the cl as far a second I can see.

****I see that Villarreal lost in the playoff*****

Fuck me Wenger is going to get and get out of jail card
The rules have changed for this season.
Countries with 4 slots get all the top 4 straight into the groups. No qualification rounds.
The Europa league winner gets straight into the group stage.
A limit of 5 clubs per association.
That's from the UEFA site Q&As on qualification rules.
It doesn't specifically answer the question if the slots are transferable but it doesn't say they are.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
VoiceOfReason wrote:Now I'm really confused (doesn't take much tbh!)

So if we finish fourth and Man Utd come fifth and win the Europa, they'd take our CL spot?

This sounds too good to be true!
no they would just have a 5th CL spot.
and am I right in thinking that if Man United finish top 4 and then we finish 5th we will still qualify for the CL ? :rubchin:
Nope, check here for scenarios last season for Liverpool: http://www.villarrealusa.com/2016/5/2/1 ... -explained

I also can't see ManU taking their eye off the league as much as Liverpool did. Mourinho is smart enough not to throw away top 4 on a one off match

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blair207 wrote: The rules have changed for this season.
Countries with 4 slots get all the top 4 straight into the groups. No qualification rounds.
The Europa league winner gets straight into the group stage.
A limit of 5 clubs per association.
That's from the UEFA site Q&As on qualification rules.
It doesn't specifically answer the question if the slots are transferable but it doesn't say they are.
That's starting in 2018/19: http://www.espnfc.us/uefa-champions-lea ... op-leagues

4th place still has to do a playoff next season

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Ziegler1988 wrote:
blair207 wrote: The rules have changed for this season.
Countries with 4 slots get all the top 4 straight into the groups. No qualification rounds.
The Europa league winner gets straight into the group stage.
A limit of 5 clubs per association.
That's from the UEFA site Q&As on qualification rules.
It doesn't specifically answer the question if the slots are transferable but it doesn't say they are.
That's starting in 2018/19: http://www.espnfc.us/uefa-champions-lea ... op-leagues

4th place still has to do a playoff next season
So it is the rules this year must be the same as last year.
Would that mean if we were 4th and ManU 5th but won the Europa there would be a qualification round for both?
That's assuming Leicester don't win the Campions league of course.
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blair207 wrote:
Ziegler1988 wrote:
blair207 wrote: The rules have changed for this season.
Countries with 4 slots get all the top 4 straight into the groups. No qualification rounds.
The Europa league winner gets straight into the group stage.
A limit of 5 clubs per association.
That's from the UEFA site Q&As on qualification rules.
It doesn't specifically answer the question if the slots are transferable but it doesn't say they are.
That's starting in 2018/19: http://www.espnfc.us/uefa-champions-lea ... op-leagues

4th place still has to do a playoff next season
So it is the rules this year must be the same as last year.
Would that mean if we were 4th and ManU 5th but won the Europa there would be a play off?
Don't think that scenario affects us at all, we would enter the playoff ("last qualification round")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%8 ... ons_League
NOTE: The winners of the 2016–17 UEFA Europa League enter the play-off round if both they and the winners of the 2016–17 UEFA Champions League have not qualified for the group stage through domestic performance. Should the winners of the 2016–17 UEFA Europa League enter the play-off round, they enter:

League Route: If the Champions League title holders have qualified for any round of the League Route, or have not qualified for the tournament via their domestic league and are from the associations 1–12 in the access list.
Champions Route: If the Champions League title holders have qualified for any round of the Champions Route, or have not qualified for the tournament via their domestic league and are from the associations 13–54 in the access list.

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Looks to me like ManU can get in through the Europa if they are 5th but we don't if they get 4th and the Europa.
That would make sense as the object is to boost the Europa League not give one association an extra place.
C'mon Leicester!

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Gunner Rob wrote:
VoiceOfReason wrote:Now I'm really confused (doesn't take much tbh!)

So if we finish fourth and Man Utd come fifth and win the Europa, they'd take our CL spot?

This sounds too good to be true!
no they would just have a 5th CL spot.
and am I right in thinking that if Man United finish top 4 and then we finish 5th we will still qualify for the CL ? :rubchin:
Be just like Wenger, finish outside the top 4 and still get a champions league spot!

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