Wenger Out protest thread

[Theoperator]

Thats a great video Armchair- you managed to get all 100 pictured The Banners Xiss

[Theoperator]

This will NOT happen. There are no more that half a dozen banners in the ground. The fans in the stadium do not care.

This is the biggest problem we face and Nick is right, it simply won't happen inside the stadium. You're also right Bob, that it's the only way to make the impact that we require, but I'm afraid it's a long way off, if indeed, it ever happens.

With the days of terracing gone, it isn't possible to get a block of 50 like minded people standing together with banners, let alone the 200-300 who have been attending our demos. Even 15 - 20 banners together en masse would be very impressive, but 30 or so dotted around the stadium loses all impact. It simply looks like a handful of radical ingrates (that's certainly how the TV media put it across).

Without terracing, you need fans who share a single minded opinion about the manager / chairman / any other issue, such as we've seen at Liverpool, Blackburn, Utd etc. Sadly, we have a majority of brainwashed morons in the stadium. I can't see an answer to be honest.

Actually it is very possible to congregate in one area at some times of the match as theres loads of spaces free. suggest anyone who is going correspond by PM You only need to see that the white cannon is alive when you look on TV to see that area of the East stand isnt

It is easy to congregate the problem is (and this was my point) there is not enough people willing to bring banners in.
This is based on actually being in the stadium with banners.

OK, my initial doubt about protests inside the stadium, was that there isn't the will or the stomach for it among those that attend and I suppose Nick is agreeing with this.

However, I'm surprised that you both say that congregating is not a problem. I've only been to one game in the last 2 1/2 seasons, as I've rented my season ticket out and even when I was going, I'd never had any reason to try to congregate, but I'm baffled as to hows it would work. I hear what you say, Operator, about the number of empty seats, but how would you know in advance where those empty seats will be ? Also, what if they appear to be empty, you congregate and then the seat holders arrive. Surely once the stasi stewards realise you aren't all in that section, they'll move you on ?

I'm not doubting you guys, I'm just struggling to see how congregating (especially a planned congregation), comes about.

Sorry Nick . Its surprising how you can roam around near the end of the game- theres masses of spare seats as people leave to avoid the queues, course it depends on the score and game and rain - plan where and when and it can be done. Ive done it on a tiny scale where people come from the upper to the lower to sit with friends near the end- you can roughly guess- just look at several home game footage near the end- its often the same areas that empty early, especially evening and late afternoon KO s. As Nick says PMs mobiles and talking before the gathering V Citeh are best. Some Club areas never fill much apart from cat A games let alone empty

[Bob Bayliss]

This is the biggest problem we face and Nick is right, it simply won't happen inside the stadium. You're also right Bob, that it's the only way to make the impact that we require, but I'm afraid it's a long way off, if indeed, it ever happens.

With the days of terracing gone, it isn't possible to get a block of 50 like minded people standing together with banners, let alone the 200-300 who have been attending our demos. Even 15 - 20 banners together en masse would be very impressive, but 30 or so dotted around the stadium loses all impact. It simply looks like a handful of radical ingrates (that's certainly how the TV media put it across).

Without terracing, you need fans who share a single minded opinion about the manager / chairman / any other issue, such as we've seen at Liverpool, Blackburn, Utd etc. Sadly, we have a majority of brainwashed morons in the stadium. I can't see an answer to be honest.

Actually it is very possible to congregate in one area at some times of the match as theres loads of spaces free. suggest anyone who is going correspond by PM You only need to see that the white cannon is alive when you look on TV to see that area of the East stand isnt

It is easy to congregate the problem is (and this was my point) there is not enough people willing to bring banners in.
This is based on actually being in the stadium with banners.

OK, my initial doubt about protests inside the stadium, was that there isn't the will or the stomach for it among those that attend and I suppose Nick is agreeing with this.

However, I'm surprised that you both say that congregating is not a problem. I've only been to one game in the last 2 1/2 seasons, as I've rented my season ticket out and even when I was going, I'd never had any reason to try to congregate, but I'm baffled as to hows it would work. I hear what you say, Operator, about the number of empty seats, but how would you know in advance where those empty seats will be ? Also, what if they appear to be empty, you congregate and then the seat holders arrive. Surely once the stasi stewards realise you aren't all in that section, they'll move you on ?

I'm not doubting you guys, I'm just struggling to see how congregating (especially a planned congregation), comes about.

Sorry Nick . Its surprising how you can roam around near the end of the game- theres masses of spare seats as people leave to avoid the queues, course it depends on the score and game and rain - plan where and when and it can be done. Ive done it on a tiny scale where people come from the upper to the lower to sit with friends near the end- you can roughly guess- just look at several home game footage near the end- its often the same areas that empty early, especially evening and late afternoon KO s. As Nick says PMs mobiles and talking before the gathering V Citeh are best. Some Club areas never fill much apart from cat A games let alone empty

I don't underestimate the logistical challenge of making an effective protest during a home game, but nothing less will have any real prospect of success. And we should strike while the iron is hot - one glance at the number of unsold seats for the City and West Ham games suggest that we might face less resistance than we imagine if we try to get songs sung and banners raised.

Wenger Out banners are taking off in stadia around the world. It would seem very odd indeed if we baulked at the idea of displaying them where they will have most impact. Fortune favours the brave.

[General]

Just a section of the #WengerOut protest march before the Lincoln game. Made some noise going up the steps.........

phpBB [video]

Fantastic video mate. I can definitely count more than 20 people.

[Retro Gunner]

Actually it is very possible to congregate in one area at some times of the match as theres loads of spaces free. suggest anyone who is going correspond by PM You only need to see that the white cannon is alive when you look on TV to see that area of the East stand isnt

It is easy to congregate the problem is (and this was my point) there is not enough people willing to bring banners in.
This is based on actually being in the stadium with banners.

OK, my initial doubt about protests inside the stadium, was that there isn't the will or the stomach for it among those that attend and I suppose Nick is agreeing with this.

However, I'm surprised that you both say that congregating is not a problem. I've only been to one game in the last 2 1/2 seasons, as I've rented my season ticket out and even when I was going, I'd never had any reason to try to congregate, but I'm baffled as to hows it would work. I hear what you say, Operator, about the number of empty seats, but how would you know in advance where those empty seats will be ? Also, what if they appear to be empty, you congregate and then the seat holders arrive. Surely once the stasi stewards realise you aren't all in that section, they'll move you on ?

I'm not doubting you guys, I'm just struggling to see how congregating (especially a planned congregation), comes about.

Sorry Nick . Its surprising how you can roam around near the end of the game- theres masses of spare seats as people leave to avoid the queues, course it depends on the score and game and rain - plan where and when and it can be done. Ive done it on a tiny scale where people come from the upper to the lower to sit with friends near the end- you can roughly guess- just look at several home game footage near the end- its often the same areas that empty early, especially evening and late afternoon KO s. As Nick says PMs mobiles and talking before the gathering V Citeh are best. Some Club areas never fill much apart from cat A games let alone empty

I don't underestimate the logistical challenge of making an effective protest during a home game, but nothing less will have any real prospect of success. And we should strike while the iron is hot - one glance at the number of unsold seats for the City and West Ham games suggest that we might face less resistance than we imagine if we try to get songs sung and banners raised.

Wenger Out banners are taking off in stadia around the world. It would seem very odd indeed if we baulked at the idea of displaying them where they will have most impact. Fortune favours the brave.

Ok fellas, I understand. Good luck and I hope it can be coordinated, because as Bob says, action inside the stadium is what will make the impact we need. It's a shame that mobile phones and pm's are obviously restricted to only people on here, because it seriously limits numbers. Not much can be done about that though.

As this ramps up, I fully expect the Club to get nasty, so the Stasi in the ground are likely to be under instructions to be very uncompromising. They'll love to get a reaction from you, that will allow the Old Bill to steam in.

[mzk90]

Actually it is very possible to congregate in one area at some times of the match as theres loads of spaces free. suggest anyone who is going correspond by PM You only need to see that the white cannon is alive when you look on TV to see that area of the East stand isnt

It is easy to congregate the problem is (and this was my point) there is not enough people willing to bring banners in.
This is based on actually being in the stadium with banners.

OK, my initial doubt about protests inside the stadium, was that there isn't the will or the stomach for it among those that attend and I suppose Nick is agreeing with this.

However, I'm surprised that you both say that congregating is not a problem. I've only been to one game in the last 2 1/2 seasons, as I've rented my season ticket out and even when I was going, I'd never had any reason to try to congregate, but I'm baffled as to hows it would work. I hear what you say, Operator, about the number of empty seats, but how would you know in advance where those empty seats will be ? Also, what if they appear to be empty, you congregate and then the seat holders arrive. Surely once the stasi stewards realise you aren't all in that section, they'll move you on ?

I'm not doubting you guys, I'm just struggling to see how congregating (especially a planned congregation), comes about.

Sorry Nick . Its surprising how you can roam around near the end of the game- theres masses of spare seats as people leave to avoid the queues, course it depends on the score and game and rain - plan where and when and it can be done. Ive done it on a tiny scale where people come from the upper to the lower to sit with friends near the end- you can roughly guess- just look at several home game footage near the end- its often the same areas that empty early, especially evening and late afternoon KO s. As Nick says PMs mobiles and talking before the gathering V Citeh are best. Some Club areas never fill much apart from cat A games let alone empty

I don't underestimate the logistical challenge of making an effective protest during a home game, but nothing less will have any real prospect of success. And we should strike while the iron is hot - one glance at the number of unsold seats for the City and West Ham games suggest that we might face less resistance than we imagine if we try to get songs sung and banners raised.

Wenger Out banners are taking off in stadia around the world. It would seem very odd indeed if we baulked at the idea of displaying them where they will have most impact. Fortune favours the brave.

Be good if you could get in to the blocks behind the dugout ish towards end of the game!

[Babu]

Be good if you could get in to the blocks behind the dugout ish towards end of the game!

Be good if you could get in to the dugout towards the end of the game.

[Babu]

As this ramps up, I fully expect the Club to get nasty, so the Stasi in the ground are likely to be under instructions to be very uncompromising. They'll love to get a reaction from you, that will allow the Old Bill to steam in.

I expect this too. Their backs are against the wall, and they have a lot to lose.

I also might expect some "trouble" at the march, either from "fans" bused in to be pro Wenger OR anti-wenger.

An easy tactic would be for the Club to pay a few twats to start some trouble from inside the "Wenger-Out" ranks., never mind them getting some lads in to try and target the march from outside.

Wham mid-week might also be a flashpoint, where the old bill could deliberately organise groups to clash.

Keep your wits about you, lads.

[NickF]

As this ramps up, I fully expect the Club to get nasty, so the Stasi in the ground are likely to be under instructions to be very uncompromising. They'll love to get a reaction from you, that will allow the Old Bill to steam in.

I expect this too. Their backs are against the wall, and they have a lot to lose.

I also might expect some "trouble" at the march, either from "fans" bused in to be pro Wenger OR anti-wenger.

An easy tactic would be for the Club to pay a few twats to start some trouble from inside the "Wenger-Out" ranks., never mind them getting some lads in to try and target the march from outside.

Wham mid-week might also be a flashpoint, where the old bill could deliberately organise groups to clash.

Keep your wits about you, lads.

[Babu]

I hope it's only

[NickF]

Just a section of the #WengerOut protest march before the Lincoln game. Made some noise going up the steps.........

phpBB [video]

Fantastic video mate. I can definitely count more than 20 people.

Only saw the video today, I was down the front and honestly did not know there were that many behind us. Wow!
Quite a few more than 200.

[StuartL]

Just a section of the #WengerOut protest march before the Lincoln game. Made some noise going up the steps.........

phpBB [video]

Fantastic video mate. I can definitely count more than 20 people.

Only saw the video today, I was down the front and honestly did not know there were that many behind us. Wow!
Quite a few more than 200.

Easily over 500 I would say

[Clash]

The real thing

Those are superb mate. Fantastic work again from you

[Clash]

Easily over 500 I would say

Agreed.

It's laughable that anyone would claim there was around 100 on that march. Pro-Wenger types seem to have a bit of a problem with numbers.

[StuartL]

The real thing

Those are superb mate. Fantastic work again from you

I'd say they are a bit too on the fence for my liking.
Top work Chris