THE WENGER THREAD

[xisstential]

I fucking hate the c***.

Who???

[xisstential]

Santi Cazorla will not play again this season with the Spaniard failing to recover from an injury sustained last October.
The Spanish midfielder has been a long-term absence as Arsenal have struggled this year, but had been expected to return in the early part of 2017.
But on Thursday Arsene Wenger confirmed: 'The season is over for him.'

The injury first occurred in Arsenal's Champions League match against Ludogorets, with manager Wenger optimistic Cazorla would miss no more than a couple of matches.

See there's a perfect example of misinterpretation....He actually said a "couple of years"

[augie]

Seaman wants him to stay

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... ews-Gossip

Of course he does - he too was an arrogant c.unt that felt entitled to stay way past his time, and the senile French cock pandered to him and killed the AFC career of manninger who looked like he was goona be a good keeper for us

[begeegs]

I found the exact spanish quote...

Me gusta mantenerme en una ciudad y en un equipo, pero en un equipo que sea ganador, que tenga mentalidad ganadora

The "pero" is the important bit. I asked a native spanish speaker.
Of course she couldn't tell me exactly because she had to translate it into german, but anyway...

But yeah, it could mean that Alexis likes London, but would really like that The Arsenal would become winners and get a winning mentality, or...
that Alexis likes London BUT he would like to change to a winning team.

The more I read it the more it's definitely the first one.
Although you could read it the other way.


Sorry Mr. Wenger. You were right. And I was wrong , for exactly the reason I was angry about.*




*I hate him even more now!

The most important bit about the quote is the 'una ciudad' portion which means 'a city'. If you substitute 'una' for 'la', it becomes 'the city' and that is what the papers ran with and what Wenger was rightfully complaining about. Substituting that word, the quote can only mean that he wants to stay at Arsenal or go to Chelsea. We know which way the papers slanted it.

[Eboue-Why?]

His arrogance makes me feel physically sick

[Redarmy]

The Arsenal Supporters Trust asked members whether they supported the notion of Wenger signing a new contract this summer.
And the results underlined the growing discontent towards their boss from fans, with 78 per cent voting no.


78% from AST, thats overwhelming......

[xisstential]

Seaman wants him to stay

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... ews-Gossip

Of course he does - he too was an arrogant c.unt that felt entitled to stay way past his time, and the senile French cock pandered to him and killed the AFC career of manninger who looked like he was goona be a good keeper for us

"Maybe it is a disaster, at the moment, but it’s something Arsenal fans have taken for granted and now all of a sudden there’s a big chance that it’s not going to happen and everyone is flapping.


Talking about Top 4 again. It's NOT about top 4, it's about the continuous crap being served up season after season. Wenger has succeeded into turning Top 4 into some kind of Holy Grail. He hasn't built up the club he has seriously diminished our ambitions.

[Allgunsblazin]

The Sun and IW8 had a good write up of our leaderless and rudderless Board with the delay on is he or isn't he?

Bit early for an announcement as there are memberships and ST's to sell..

[OneBardGooner]

His arrogance makes me feel physically sick

I know, If he come son the radio or I log onto a channel and he is being interviewed I have to turn it off.


He has brought this upon his own head - so FUCKK HIM. #WENGEROUT

[Redarmy]

The Arsenal Supporters Trust asked members whether they supported the notion of Wenger signing a new contract this summer.
And the results underlined the growing discontent towards their boss from fans, with 78 per cent voting no.


78% from AST, thats overwhelming......

This could be significant, the club has previously engaged AST so may take some notice

[OneBardGooner]

Apparently chips (*word censored*) cheswick was asked earlier what he thought of the/this season so far?

He replied that it had started well but had turned out to be rather disappointing...

If only he had said "yet again" at the end of that reply....

[OneBardGooner]

The Arsenal Supporters Trust asked members whether they supported the notion of Wenger signing a new contract this summer.
And the results underlined the growing discontent towards their boss from fans, with 78 per cent voting no.


78% from AST, thats overwhelming......

This could be significant, the club has previously engaged AST so may take some notice

Thta is a very good outcome for us!


What I am aware of is as with all huge businesses and consortiums is just how well run the arsene PR machine is - They will already have all the excuses and other distractions lined up for the next 3 months - They have already got all the players they can bribe from previous years to start telling the world that wenger deserves more respect he's still the man for the job He deserves another contract These scumbags make a living from controlling and directing the media and stories where they want them to go; whilst ignoring facts and any troublesome questions or situations of course.

All we can do is keep doing what we are doing - we 'know' we are Right and so nothing else matters. #WENGEROUT

[ten20]

Interview with Skysports today. Doesn't seem his usual cocky self.

How concerned are you about the tail spin you are in right now?

I'm concerned because we've had bad results and we are not where we want to be, but especially with the last game because we didn't produce the performance you need to produce if you want to play at the top of the Premier League. When you are responsible you are concerned because the confidence drops off quickly and you need belief to play well in football. It's important to recreate and rebuild quickly the desire and the confidence.

How easy is that to do?

It's the first time it's happened to us and the team are not used to dealing with that. I believe it's down to our desire, our mental strength and when you are men you want to take care of your future. Our future depends on how well we finish the season and it's a good opportunity to show that we have that quality.

You say it depends on the future, obviously the future are words you hear a lot...

Not my future, the future of the club.

Are you absolutely convinced that you or the club not announcing the decision about your future is having no affect on results?

Yes, because it would be an easy excuse. Whether I stay two years or 10 years I have exactly the same commitment and the same desire to win the next game. I believe we are in a position where we do not have to find easy excuses. Our job is to perform. Can you perform despite that? To be professional is to perform on the football pitch and not look for excuses that are not really problems off the pitch.

You may say that but you've been long enough in the game to know some players don't need much of an excuse and you have created instability. There's a question mark about you...

The worst you accuse me of, having done 20 years at the club, is creating instability. If I have created anything it is stability. The situation is not sorted out and I believe it's important we focus on what is essential. You know my attachment to this club and at the moment it is as it is and I do not see any escape route to have less responsibility because of that. You have to be men and focus on what matters and what is our job.

Again, that's you. You know what players are like. It creates a question mark. Surely that can't be healthy?

I don't know. I don't believe so but we can have a difference of opinions. You do not need to concede a corner because I have not signed a five-year contract. You defend on a corner no matter if your manager is has a one month or 10-year contract. We have to look at ourselves and believe in our qualities because if you look at our offensive numbers they are very positive in the league. We need to defend better and that's why we've lost some big games. When I say defend better it's not just the defenders it's the team as a whole.

So what's gone wrong?

What's gone wrong? We don't defend well enough and that's what's gone wrong. We can still have to turn this around by the end of the season. It's a strange season because we played 20 games unbeaten and then you slip slightly away in one game, two games and suddenly it becomes a problem.

Do you need to make wholesale changes now?

We have 11 games to go in the Premier League and now you cannot change completely the structure of the team. The same players have won games and the same players have lost games. I have tried many changes in the last five or six games and it does not always come off. I have to come back to the strength of the team as much as I can. That is basically our attacking potential and we also have to focus on our togetherness and our desire to prepare our future.

But even the goals are drying up right now. It's six in the last five compared to 12 in the previous five...

It's linked with confidence as well. We had 70 per cent of the ball at West Brom and didn't create a lot. That is obviously a concern so we have to come back to being more creative, playing with more flow and more freedom as well because when the results go against you play with the handbrake on.

Have you become too predictable in the way that you play?

No matter how you play you have to be efficient with the way you play. I don't think it's the way you play it's how well you play the way you play. At West Brom we did not play well in the way we wanted to play.

With the question marks surrounding the mental attitude of the players, how difficult does that make your quest to make the top four?

When you are in my job or the players' job it cannot always be easy. You cannot want to say you are exceptional as a player and not face difficult situations. A career is made of ups and downs and when you are going through a difficult period you respond. That's down to the big players.

Have the players got to stand up and be counted?

We have to stand up and be counted all together. I do not especially look at one or the other one. As a group, as a unit Arsenal needs to be together. We are in a difficult situation together and we have to respond together. Life is a great opportunity to fight and when you have that turn up and go for it. Show that you can fight, that for me is what is interesting in life. It's not always a motorway because sometimes it's a bumpy way and you still need to get to the destination.

Just clarify a couple of things for me. You've said whether you finish in the top four or not won't affect the decision about your future, is that correct?

Yes.

You also said you will make a decision very soon after the West Brom game?

No, I said I know what I want to do.

But then you were asked and you said "very soon"...

Then it depends on what soon means to you and what soon means for me.

You've talked about reinventing yourself. What does that mean? Is it just you or is it wider than you?

It's just me. When I say that, I just behave everyday with the desire to improve and to get to the next level. That's normal for me because I've done it for 30 years.

It's not been a good season, has it?

No, it's not been a good season. It's not gone in the way we expected but it can still be an acceptable season. Do we respond well? We still have a good chance to finish in the top four and we are in the semi-final of the FA Cup. It's never good enough if you do not win every single game in the season but we cannot go the way people want us to go.

Which way is that?

It's all negative.

Do you get fed up with that?

I'm long enough in this job to know how it goes. That's the way it is in life. When you are in it are you ready for the fight or you are not in it and you accept the situation as it is. I'm ready for a fight. I'm ready to fight to try and win the next game no matter what people say and think. That's my desire and I will always be like that.

You sound like a man who is ready for a fight next season and the season afterwards at Arsenal?

Don't try to make me announce today something I don't want to because I'm not in a position to do it. I've at least shown one thing in my life at Arsenal, I've shown loyalty. I was in a very difficult position sometimes and I've always chosen Arsenal but one day it will stop. Is it today, is it tomorrow, is it in two years or is it before? I don't know but as long as I am here I'm ready to fight and give absolutely everything to the club I love. Not only because it's Arsenal but for its values and what this club means to people all over the world. This club has become a world brand, not only for its consistent achievements but also for its values and I'm ready to fight for that. I have always done in my life what I think in football is right and when I am wrong I stand up and I say sorry because I'm not perfect.

Understandably, you say all that with a great deal of pride. Again, it sounds like…

A great deal of pride because I know how the club has gone from when I arrived to what it is today. I am quite critical with myself but as well I have done some things right here.

Again, you don't sound like a man whose work is finished here?

Take the conclusions you want Geoff, I just focus on the next match.

[xisstential]

He sounds like his usual cocky self to me. Arrogant, dismissive, inwardly fuming that these ingrates have the temerity to question him after 20 years of selfless devotion to an ungrateful fanbase........ Sounds exactly like the Wenger I have come to expect. WENGER OUT!!

[xgtdec]

and when I am wrong I stand up and I say sorry because I'm not perfect.

wow......how did he not get called on that one.......