Wenger Out protest thread

[gooner265]

By the way snippet of the sky interview with Geoff Shreeves looks interesting he was probing Wenger and accusing him of creating uncertainty , guessing that's where the quotes were from.

[Bradywasking]

' To be professional is to perform on the pitch and not look for easy excuses, we have to be men and focus on what matters and what is our job'

OK Arsene thank you for that...So not having a game for two weeks, having too many games, jaded, hand brake, referees, special circumstances and financial doping NO LONGER COUNT.. Remind him of that post every game we lose... NO EASY EXCUSES...More to the point NO EASY RIDE from journalists anymore.

[IW8Goalmachine]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already but wondering has the BSM got in contact over joining the cause?

[mzk90]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already but wondering has the BSM got in contact over joining the cause?

Already stated we fully support the protests.

[Almunia is a clown]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already but wondering has the BSM got in contact over joining the cause?

Many of the original BSM members left after the first year when it became BSM policy not to deal with / ignore the Wenger issue, they very reluctantly recently decided that those that originally wanted Wenger out all those years ago were right all along.

Because of the misguided Wenger policy the BSM has spent the last few years floundering & directionless. Perhaps they wanted to unite the fans despite the chasm of opposite views over the managers future. But the fact is that many old school were Wenger out for many years & that was where large numbers of the BSM support was based.

Most of the new Stalinist brainwashed generation of support have nothing in common with the old school Gooners, many of the new support just associated the BSM with wishing for a return to terraces & hooliganism whilst perceiving the BSM to be anti Wenger anyway!

The BSM & indeed the other "fans groups" should have called for Wenger out many years ago, they ignored the problem & now the genie is out of the bottle, along the way we had the dilution of the "Time for Change" protests / sabotage. :banged:

The BSM should have been a proper radical "direct action" supporters group from the start, instead of trying to appeal to the new demographic of supporter.

[Almunia is a clown]

Double post

[armchair]

A win on Sunday will strengthen the AKB's and Wengers position.

It won't help with the media's idiotic take on it...something along the lines of "Well they must be happy now.... surely this will dampen the protests"" They seem to think that every time we have a few bad results that, that is the trigger for the protests. BUT it's NOT, we know that and that is the message we need to drive home to them...that it's the continual Groundhog Day season after season...this is not about one or two results. These protests should have started years ago and been continuous and relentless. WENGER OUT!!

Btw my girlfriend is calling me a Rabble Rouser

The single most annoying thing about the protest is that people think that one good result makes everything ok again.

Rabble rouser - I guess that is better than disrespectful radical.

Or c unt. Dont forget the "c" word. We're all a bunch of c unts.

[armchair]

Many of the original BSM members left after the first year when it became BSM policy not to deal with / ignore the Wenger issue, they very reluctantly recently decided that those that originally wanted Wenger out all those years ago were right all along.

Because of the misguided Wenger policy the BSM has spent the last few years floundering & directionless. Perhaps they wanted to unite the fans despite the chasm of opposite views over the managers future. But the fact is that many old school were Wenger out for many years & that was where large numbers of the BSM support was based.

Most of the new Stalinist brainwashed generation of support have nothing in common with the old school Gooners, many of the new support just associated the BSM with wishing for a return to terraces & hooliganism whilst perceiving the BSM to be anti Wenger anyway!

The BSM & indeed the other "fans groups" should have called for Wenger out many years ago, they ignored the problem & now the genie is out of the bottle, along the way we had the dilution of the "Time for Change" protests / sabotage. :banged:

The BSM should have been a proper radical "direct action" supporters group from the start, instead of trying to appeal to the new demographic of supporter.

I've been very critical of BSM and moreso RA in the past and felt personally agrieved and well pissed off when they just blatantly took my "Time For Change" slogan off my banner and diluted the message.
But Im well over that now and feel positive that at last they have at least pubicly recognised that Wenger needs to go and support our protests.

I do feel however that they need to be leaders not falling in behind our ragtag group of dissaffected gooners here on the gooner forum (No disrespect intended and I include myself )

Its time for BSM to take the lead and if they do I for one will be right behind them.

[OneBardGooner]

There is a (so called) Gooner in my office and he is 100% wenger IN, I have tried engaging him in a meaningful discussion & debate and all he can say is 'Be careful what you wish for' - All the lads from the office were out on someone's birthday booze up - There were about 35 of us - some scouse (red & blue) fans, manure/$hitty fans etc, even 3 scum fans and they all agreed except this dumbcunt that if he were manager at their club they would want him gone. So after a few pints I once more raised the subject and asked him to expand on what he means by that 'be careful etc' and he couldn't back it up.

I even tried to explain that under a new manager we might spend a few seasons mid-table ot between 10th and 6th - But that it would be 'progress' because after having the club under his total command for so many years it would take a Total Change of the Order of things and the whole set up would need to be gutted and re-built. Because that was the ONLY way we are going to evolve as a Football Club - First and foremost by changing the manager AND the backroom staff - including coaches, medical team, scouting people etc etc.

At this point about 20 of the lads were around us listening and they all nodded as if to say yes. Then this clown of an AKB says ' If you get rid of wenger we will lose our beautiful football and our status as a world renowned club' - I nearly fell over - You know one of those moments when you have to Double Check to make sure you've heard correctly. Even the majority of the lads all p*sssed by now started laughing and rolling their eyes and shaking their heads in dis-belief.

I mean This is what kind of idiocy we are up against. <speechless>

[OneBardGooner]

Many of the original BSM members left after the first year when it became BSM policy not to deal with / ignore the Wenger issue, they very reluctantly recently decided that those that originally wanted Wenger out all those years ago were right all along.

Because of the misguided Wenger policy the BSM has spent the last few years floundering & directionless. Perhaps they wanted to unite the fans despite the chasm of opposite views over the managers future. But the fact is that many old school were Wenger out for many years & that was where large numbers of the BSM support was based.

Most of the new Stalinist brainwashed generation of support have nothing in common with the old school Gooners, many of the new support just associated the BSM with wishing for a return to terraces & hooliganism whilst perceiving the BSM to be anti Wenger anyway!

The BSM & indeed the other "fans groups" should have called for Wenger out many years ago, they ignored the problem & now the genie is out of the bottle, along the way we had the dilution of the "Time for Change" protests / sabotage. :banged:

The BSM should have been a proper radical "direct action" supporters group from the start, instead of trying to appeal to the new demographic of supporter.

I've been very critical of BSM and moreso RA in the past and felt personally agrieved and well pissed off when they just blatantly took my "Time For Change" slogan off my banner and diluted the message.
But Im well over that now and feel positive that at last they have at least pubicly recognised that Wenger needs to go and support our protests.

I do feel however that they need to be leaders not falling in behind our ragtag group of dissaffected gooners here on the gooner forum (No disrespect intended and I include myself )

Its time for BSM to take the lead and if they do I for one will be right behind them.

edit: We are already taking action - they are more than welcome to join, but the fact it took them so long to get their arses in gear means they can join but Not lead!

[xisstential]

Many of the original BSM members left after the first year when it became BSM policy not to deal with / ignore the Wenger issue, they very reluctantly recently decided that those that originally wanted Wenger out all those years ago were right all along.

Because of the misguided Wenger policy the BSM has spent the last few years floundering & directionless. Perhaps they wanted to unite the fans despite the chasm of opposite views over the managers future. But the fact is that many old school were Wenger out for many years & that was where large numbers of the BSM support was based.

Most of the new Stalinist brainwashed generation of support have nothing in common with the old school Gooners, many of the new support just associated the BSM with wishing for a return to terraces & hooliganism whilst perceiving the BSM to be anti Wenger anyway!

The BSM & indeed the other "fans groups" should have called for Wenger out many years ago, they ignored the problem & now the genie is out of the bottle, along the way we had the dilution of the "Time for Change" protests / sabotage. :banged:

The BSM should have been a proper radical "direct action" supporters group from the start, instead of trying to appeal to the new demographic of supporter.

I've been very critical of BSM and moreso RA in the past and felt personally agrieved and well pissed off when they just blatantly took my "Time For Change" slogan off my banner and diluted the message.
But Im well over that now and feel positive that at last they have at least pubicly recognised that Wenger needs to go and support our protests.

I do feel however that they need to be leaders not falling in behind our ragtag group of dissaffected gooners here on the gooner forum (No disrespect intended and I include myself )

Its time for BSM to take the lead and if they do I for one will be right behind them.

If we hadn't started what we are doing he would be gliding serenely along and would have signed the new deal already. We are a rag tag bunch but we are catching fire and everybody that gets on board now is following our lead. It's like Piers Morgan, continually rabbitting on about Wenger Out, but its always all about him, and despite numerous requests has never contributed one penny. If Wenger does leave it's because of what we got started on here and Armchair, you are one of the frontrunners, don't sell yourself, or us, short.

[OneBardGooner]

Many of the original BSM members left after the first year when it became BSM policy not to deal with / ignore the Wenger issue, they very reluctantly recently decided that those that originally wanted Wenger out all those years ago were right all along.

Because of the misguided Wenger policy the BSM has spent the last few years floundering & directionless. Perhaps they wanted to unite the fans despite the chasm of opposite views over the managers future. But the fact is that many old school were Wenger out for many years & that was where large numbers of the BSM support was based.

Most of the new Stalinist brainwashed generation of support have nothing in common with the old school Gooners, many of the new support just associated the BSM with wishing for a return to terraces & hooliganism whilst perceiving the BSM to be anti Wenger anyway!

The BSM & indeed the other "fans groups" should have called for Wenger out many years ago, they ignored the problem & now the genie is out of the bottle, along the way we had the dilution of the "Time for Change" protests / sabotage. :banged:

The BSM should have been a proper radical "direct action" supporters group from the start, instead of trying to appeal to the new demographic of supporter.

I've been very critical of BSM and moreso RA in the past and felt personally agrieved and well pissed off when they just blatantly took my "Time For Change" slogan off my banner and diluted the message.
But Im well over that now and feel positive that at last they have at least pubicly recognised that Wenger needs to go and support our protests.

I do feel however that they need to be leaders not falling in behind our ragtag group of dissaffected gooners here on the gooner forum (No disrespect intended and I include myself )

Its time for BSM to take the lead and if they do I for one will be right behind them.

If we hadn't started what we are doing he would be gliding serenely along and would have signed the new deal already. We are a rag tag bunch but we are catching fire and everybody that gets on board now is following our lead. It's like Piers Morgan, continually rabbitting on about Wenger Out, but its always all about him, and despite numerous requests has never contributed one penny. If Wenger does leave it's because of what we got started on here and Armchair, you are one of the frontrunners, don't sell yourself, or us, short.

Well said - We all owe a great deal to Armchair, xisstential, Jumpers, MattyB for getting this mighty ball rolling! We can take the Club motto and wear it with pride

"Victory Through Harmony"

wenger & the board will hate that.

[armchair]

If we hadn't started what we are doing he would be gliding serenely along and would have signed the new deal already. We are a rag tag bunch but we are catching fire and everybody that gets on board now is following our lead. It's like Piers Morgan, continually rabbitting on about Wenger Out, but its always all about him, and despite numerous requests has never contributed one penny. If Wenger does leave it's because of what we got started on here and Armchair, you are one of the frontrunners, don't sell yourself, or us, short.

Thats exactly what Im getting at. It should never have been left up to us to set the wheels in motion. I've personally been actively protestong against Wenger for 5years at aways but it wasnt until myself, NickF and another forum member raised banners at the Emirates last season that BSM and RA decided to move. Even then it was reactive not proactive and a horrible, weak diluted message.

But now we have moved on and my point is that again the fangroups have waited until someone else has taken up the fight and put the "Wenger issue" up front and central.

They have fallen in behind us, not taken the lead. Im assuming fangroups should do that - identify an issue, form a policy, then act on it?

I would prefer they took the lead. Did something tangeable, rather than release statements that they're behind the protests.
They should be in front of the protests. And I'd back them to thd hilt!

[xisstential]

If we hadn't started what we are doing he would be gliding serenely along and would have signed the new deal already. We are a rag tag bunch but we are catching fire and everybody that gets on board now is following our lead. It's like Piers Morgan, continually rabbitting on about Wenger Out, but its always all about him, and despite numerous requests has never contributed one penny. If Wenger does leave it's because of what we got started on here and Armchair, you are one of the frontrunners, don't sell yourself, or us, short.

Thats exactly what Im getting at. It should never have been left up to us to set the wheels in motion. I've personally been actively protestong against Wenger for 5years at aways but it wasnt until myself, NickF and another forum member raised banners at the Emirates last season that BSM and RA decided to move. Even then it was reactive not proactive and a horrible, weak diluted message.

But now we have moved on and my point is that again the fangroups have waited until someone else has taken up the fight and put the "Wenger issue" up front and central.

They have fallen in behind us, not taken the lead. Im assuming fangroups should do that - identify an issue, form a policy, then act on it?

I would prefer they took the lead. Did something tangeable, rather than release statements that they're behind the protests.
They should be in front of the protests. And I'd back them to thd hilt!

Sent you an email.

[NickF]

It is noticible that the papers are now saying the majority want Wenger out whereas a few weeks ago we were "the minority".

We need to keep the pressure on though...