THE WENGER THREAD

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Redarmy wrote:
Redarmy wrote:The Arsenal Supporters Trust asked members whether they supported the notion of Wenger signing a new contract this summer.
And the results underlined the growing discontent towards their boss from fans, with 78 per cent voting no.


78% from AST, thats overwhelming......

This could be significant, the club has previously engaged AST so may take some notice
Thta is a very good outcome for us!


What I am aware of is as with all huge businesses and consortiums is just how well run the arsene PR machine is - They will already have all the excuses and other distractions lined up for the next 3 months - They have already got all the players they can bribe from previous years to start telling the world that wenger deserves more respect :blah: he's still the man for the job :blah: :blah: He deserves another contract :blah: :blah: :blah: These scumbags make a living from controlling and directing the media and stories where they want them to go; whilst ignoring facts and any troublesome questions or situations of course.

All we can do is keep doing what we are doing - we 'know' we are Right and so nothing else matters. #WENGEROUT :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
Agree fully, seems to be a massive change in their view- some of the comments though are priceless, but some are thoughtful and good, there is pages of them, not 2055 though :wink:

http://www.arsenaltrust.org/admin/resou ... _final.pdf

, must have TYs Uncle brother and the whole family making up the 15% who actually thought he was doing a good job.

Surely surely its game over :? :?

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Theoperator wrote: Agree fully, seems to be a massive change in their view- some of the comments though are priceless, but some are thoughtful and good, there is pages of them, not 2055 though :wink:

http://www.arsenaltrust.org/admin/resou ... _final.pdf

, must have TYs Uncle brother and the whole family making up the 15% who actually thought he was doing a good job.

Surely surely its game over :? :?
I was skimming through the document quickly, stopped on a page and read a few comments. I found this gem :lol:
This is not the first time a vocal minority have called for a change in manager. Every previous time they have been proven wrong
and they will be again if he is given time to ride out this bad patch.
I thought it was particularly funny considering the results of the vote being 78% wanting him out. Some minority. :barscarf:

I also cannot recall a single moment when #WengerOUT Arsenal fans have been "proven wrong"...each time Wenger merely papered over the cracks which were always evident. TOF is all out of luck this time.

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ten20 wrote:Interview with Skysports today. Doesn't seem his usual cocky self.

How concerned are you about the tail spin you are in right now?

I'm concerned because we've had bad results and we are not where we want to be, but especially with the last game because we didn't produce the performance you need to produce if you want to play at the top of the Premier League. When you are responsible you are concerned because the confidence drops off quickly and you need belief to play well in football. It's important to recreate and rebuild quickly the desire and the confidence.

How easy is that to do?

It's the first time it's happened to us and the team are not used to dealing with that. I believe it's down to our desire, our mental strength and when you are men you want to take care of your future. Our future depends on how well we finish the season and it's a good opportunity to show that we have that quality.

Fucktard lying cun.t - It happens every season only this time you have not (yet) managed to sneak your way out of it.

You say it depends on the future, obviously the future are words you hear a lot...

Not my future, the future of the club.

No, not your future you sneaky cun.t because we all know you will do anything to hang on to your position off pwer that gives you a spotlight in the media and £9million+ a year - Does this cuntt have NO Shame !?

Are you absolutely convinced that you or the club not announcing the decision about your future is having no affect on results?

Yes, because it would be an easy excuse. Whether I stay two years or 10 years I have exactly the same commitment and the same desire to win the next game. I believe we are in a position where we do not have to find easy excuses. Our job is to perform. Can you perform despite that? To be professional is to perform on the football pitch and not look for excuses that are not really problems off the pitch.

No, Not an excuse but a fact of Truth you Cunnt - he is gradually but slowly lining us (and the media) to announce he's staying you can see it a mile off...If/when he does then it really is war.


You may say that but you've been long enough in the game to know some players don't need much of an excuse and you have created instability. There's a question mark about you...

The worst you accuse me of, having done 20 years at the club, is creating instability. If I have created anything it is stability. The situation is not sorted out and I believe it's important we focus on what is essential. You know my attachment to this club and at the moment it is as it is and I do not see any escape route to have less responsibility because of that. You have to be men and focus on what matters and what is our job.

He has absolutely No Conscience whatsoever...So let's get this right - We are in the worst position we have been since last season - and the previous 9 seasons - ie: out of CL, no longer able to win the prem...but now the fans are (at last) calling you on it! And yet he says he has created 'stability' - he has lost at least Two Thirds of the dressing room - Our finest player is going to leave Because of him and his inability to manage a winning team. Just once I would love to hear him accept responsibility

Again, that's you. You know what players are like. It creates a question mark. Surely that can't be healthy?

I don't know. I don't believe so but we can have a difference of opinions. You do not need to concede a corner because I have not signed a five-year contract. You defend on a corner no matter if your manager is has a one month or 10-year contract. We have to look at ourselves and believe in our qualities because if you look at our offensive numbers they are very positive in the league. We need to defend better and that's why we've lost some big games. When I say defend better it's not just the defenders it's the team as a whole.

WHAT!??? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: These are the words of someone who needs to be sectioned.

So what's gone wrong?

What's gone wrong? We don't defend well enough and that's what's gone wrong. We can still have to turn this around by the end of the season. It's a strange season because we played 20 games unbeaten and then you slip slightly away in one game, two games and suddenly it becomes a problem.

:shock: Holy Shitttttttt How can anyone not call him on all this utter Bollocks!???

Do you need to make wholesale changes now?

We have 11 games to go in the Premier League and now you cannot change completely the structure of the team. The same players have won games and the same players have lost games. I have tried many changes in the last five or six games and it does not always come off. I have to come back to the strength of the team as much as I can. That is basically our attacking potential and we also have to focus on our togetherness and our desire to prepare our future.

:roll: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:

But even the goals are drying up right now. It's six in the last five compared to 12 in the previous five...

It's linked with confidence as well. We had 70 per cent of the ball at West Brom and didn't create a lot. That is obviously a concern so we have to come back to being more creative, playing with more flow and more freedom as well because when the results go against you play with the handbrake on.



Where have we heard that little gem before? :rubchin: Not if the team has a manager who can inspire, be bold and make the right decisions and 'knows' tactics and isn't afraid to hand out bollickings to any of the players AND Admit he is WRONG! :banghead:

Have you become too predictable in the way that you play?

No matter how you play you have to be efficient with the way you play. I don't think it's the way you play it's how well you play the way you play. At West Brom we did not play well in the way we wanted to play.

:yawn: :suicide:

With the question marks surrounding the mental attitude of the players, how difficult does that make your quest to make the top four?

When you are in my job or the players' job it cannot always be easy. You cannot want to say you are exceptional as a player and not face difficult situations. A career is made of ups and downs and when you are going through a difficult period you respond. That's down to the big players.


Yet more non-sensical BOLLOCKS! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Have the players got to stand up and be counted?

We have to stand up and be counted all together. I do not especially look at one or the other one. As a group, as a unit Arsenal needs to be together. We are in a difficult situation together and we have to respond together. Life is a great opportunity to fight and when you have that turn up and go for it. Show that you can fight, that for me is what is interesting in life. It's not always a motorway because sometimes it's a bumpy way and you still need to get to the destination.


:roll: :banghead: :suicide:

Just clarify a couple of things for me. You've said whether you finish in the top four or not won't affect the decision about your future, is that correct?

Yes.

You also said you will make a decision very soon after the West Brom game?

No, I said I know what I want to do.

Liar Liar Pants on Fire!

But then you were asked and you said "very soon"...

Then it depends on what soon means to you and what soon means for me.


Yet again he squirms out of the question and changes the record to suits his own ends....what a Devious, Lying Ceeeeeunnnttt.



You've talked about reinventing yourself. What does that mean? Is it just you or is it wider than you?

It's just me. When I say that, I just behave everyday with the desire to improve and to get to the next level. That's normal for me because I've done it for 30 years.

It's not been a good season, has it?

No, it's not been a good season. It's not gone in the way we expected but it can still be an acceptable season. Do we respond well? We still have a good chance to finish in the top four and we are in the semi-final of the FA Cup. It's never good enough if you do not win every single game in the season but we cannot go the way people want us to go.

It HAS gone the way we expected and Predicted you delusional despot CUN.T

Which way is that?

It's all negative.

Do you get fed up with that?

I'm long enough in this job to know how it goes. That's the way it is in life. When you are in it are you ready for the fight or you are not in it and you accept the situation as it is. I'm ready for a fight. I'm ready to fight to try and win the next game no matter what people say and think. That's my desire and I will always be like that.

You sound like a man who is ready for a fight next season and the season afterwards at Arsenal?

Don't try to make me announce today something I don't want to because I'm not in a position to do it. I've at least shown one thing in my life at Arsenal, I've shown loyalty. I was in a very difficult position sometimes and I've always chosen Arsenal but one day it will stop. Is it today, is it tomorrow, is it in two years or is it before? I don't know but as long as I am here I'm ready to fight and give absolutely everything to the club I love. Not only because it's Arsenal but for its values and what this club means to people all over the world. This club has become a world brand, not only for its consistent achievements but also for its values and I'm ready to fight for that. I have always done in my life what I think in football is right and when I am wrong I stand up and I say sorry because I'm not perfect.

Utter and absolute LIAR!

Understandably, you say all that with a great deal of pride. Again, it sounds like…

A great deal of pride because I know how the club has gone from when I arrived to what it is today. I am quite critical with myself but as well I have done some things right here.

There it is again - Insinuating he is responsible for building Arsenal - It's as if he's impying we didn't exist till he arrived....Meglomania in its truest form
.

Again, you don't sound like a man whose work is finished here?

Take the conclusions you want Geoff, I just focus on the next match.
Jeeezzuss H How On Gods Holy Earth Can none of the journo's Call Him on any of these answers -



Oh! For an Honest Journalist to really go to town on the cun.t - Where is Jacqui Oatley when we need her!? :?

Sorry guys I read the interview and just needed to "Vent".

#WENGEROUT

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The problem being OBG any journo who called him on all his bull would be forevermore banned and AW would most likely throw a hissy, get up and walk out at the first real, confrontational questioning. The man is the ultimate snake and utterly delusional and nobody has the right to question his way of doing things :roll:

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He is full of s**t. he said very soon after the WBA game and then denies it 2 weeks later, he is trying to play with the media for some reason but somehow doesn't realise he is also playing with the emotions of the fans, who are already pretty annoyed. :censored:

I laughed so hard at his response about reinventing himself, the last bit of his response being "that's normal for me because I've done it for 30 years." rofl so he is reinventing himself by doing what he has done for the last 30 years?. :lol:

How can it still be an acceptable season? - if we win the cup and finish 4th is I'm sure what he is referring to, but a lot of us think that is not good enough he justs shifts the goalposts with his bs judge me in May stuff as usual, also it is extremely unlikely with the form we're in and the fixtures we'll face in the cup especially.

I'd also have liked if someone questioned him deeper about his comments about the 'values' of the club, I want to know what these are exactly?, charging the highest prices?, rich old farts on the board not caring and not investing any money?, happy to finish 4th?. These values?!.
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if the AST have turned on him that's yet more evidence that match going fans don't want him here. no excuse for the protests not to be fucking huge until the end of the season now

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Be prepared for a few beatings!...
The changing room will have been lost....

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GoonerMuzz wrote:The problem being OBG any journo who called him on all his bull would be forevermore banned and AW would most likely throw a hissy, get up and walk out at the first real, confrontational questioning. The man is the ultimate snake and utterly delusional and nobody has the right to question his way of doing things :roll:
I knowww. :cry: FUCK I HATE THE CUNNT

I just saw a really good comment on AFTV:

"Our motto says "Victory Through Harmony" - I see and hear No Harmony of any kind, and all this is down to Wenger, No One Else - He thinks it is a joking matter in his interviews when he laughs and says he is clear in his mind about what he will do etc - He is a Coward and a Liar! - He doesn't have the Balls to say what is happening."

:high5:

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OneBardGooner wrote: I just saw a really good comment on AFTV:

"Our motto says "Victory Through Harmony" - I see and hear No Harmony of any kind, and all this is down to Wenger, No One Else - He thinks it is a joking matter in his interviews when he laughs and says he is clear in his mind about what he will do etc - He is a Coward and a Liar! - He doesn't have the Balls to say what is happening."

:high5:
Kinda sums it all up mate. "A coward and a liar"

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He really is destroying his legacy at the moment.

A few years ago I would be quite sad about that. I am just cheering on his demise now and... I feel we are approaching some kind of end game - the media is really going in for the kill.
I don't think he will survive a loss to Man City.

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Ha ha feckin brilliant!
Been on twitter and as we know the AKBs have nothing left except..........
"He deserves respect"

But one creative tweeter came up with a doozy. (I think thats what our American "cousins" would call it)

He said Wenger should stay because.........

wait for it..........

"It'd feel wierd not having him around"

:lol:

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Redarmy wrote:The Arsenal Supporters Trust asked members whether they supported the notion of Wenger signing a new contract this summer.
And the results underlined the growing discontent towards their boss from fans, with 78 per cent voting no.


78% from AST, thats overwhelming......
Jesus fucking Christ. 78% of AST wanting Wenger out. That's like the end of fucking days.

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northbank123 wrote:
Redarmy wrote:The Arsenal Supporters Trust asked members whether they supported the notion of Wenger signing a new contract this summer.
And the results underlined the growing discontent towards their boss from fans, with 78 per cent voting no.


78% from AST, thats overwhelming......
Jesus fucking Christ. 78% of AST wanting Wenger out. That's like the end of fucking days.
Shame That nearly all of those 78% wouldn't vocalise any discontent at a home game.

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northbank123 wrote:
Redarmy wrote:The Arsenal Supporters Trust asked members whether they supported the notion of Wenger signing a new contract this summer.
And the results underlined the growing discontent towards their boss from fans, with 78 per cent voting no.


78% from AST, thats overwhelming......
Jesus fucking Christ. 78% of AST wanting Wenger out. That's like the end of fucking days.
This is perfect timing. Brilliant from AST.

The lying, arrogant, cowardly incompetent fool cant survive all this. He's fukin toast!
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