THE WENGER THREAD

[supergeorgegraham]

I just think overall Arsenal FC and us fans are in for a rough few years. If you have a directionless board you have a directionless team. Wenger can't stay surely can he ?

[sk-gtfo]

Gotta love the old "dont go to games, its your falt, you're lining their pockets" mantra from people who dont go to games anyway.

Just another easy excuse to do nothing.

Theres too many not prepared to do that. Also theres people who still want Wenger in. And theres lots of day trippers and corporates

Ive a better idea....What about you actually go to games and protest? Oh yea forgot. You dont go to games.

How about you answer my question about your man Kroenke backing Wenger first?.

I used to go to games actually, my last one being our 1-1 draw with Spurs in November 15, by that point I had seen enough. I also prefer having the money in my bank rather than giving it to Silent Stan so he can award Wenger new contracts or use it to make himself richer.

I remember the 80's and 90's, football attendances were dire, Arsenal regularly in the 20,000's Chelsea 10,000's, the club are arrogant if they think there will always be people to buy up over-priced 'product', a few years in the wilderness and they will soon learn.

[xisstential]

Wenger spunked away 90 million last summer on absolute dross, why anyone would want to put 200 million into the hands of that deranged lunatic is beyond me.

Surely when you blow over 50m on 2 players (Xhaka & Perez) they are going to feature quite prominently. Not at Wenger's Arsenal..if I didn't know I would swear Perez was out on loan somewhere. And Xhaka has become an uncontrollable loose cannon in the midfield. Yea, hell why not, lets give him 200m to spend.

[NickF]

All this talk of war chests and directors of football is smoke and mirrors. The team are going through the worst run of form for years and the manager has no answers. We have a few injuries to good players but no more than any other team. There was money spent last close season but we have regressed.
One of the criticisms which has been levelled at Wengers sides over years is no defensive midfielders, we now have three, all fit and we are leaking goals like never before.
Another criticism was not enough strikers, we have Giroud, Wellbeck, Walcott, Perez, Sanchez all fit but not one of them in any sort of form.
We have Ozil who has reportedly been offered £250K+, producing virtually nothing.
We are the number one topic on every sport talk in etc.
On the playing side we are not just underachieving we are in free fall. The only question is where we will be when we bottom out.
We are at the stage now where if the board believes Wenger is Mr Arsenal and we must stick with him we aren't doomed to underachieving we are just doomed.

Sanchez aside, none of which you would call top-class. Perez, Welbeck, Giroud and Walcott are secondary strikers at best.
We really have needed a top top striker since RvP, but Wenger insists on the half-arsed solution, pays them a fortune and then wonders why we struggle against top sides (and even the smaller sides now).

[silus]

Its not that the players are horrible, its just they have been badly managed they cannot find a platform to compete on. Compare us to Chelsea for instance. Their big two is Costa and Hazard, our big two is Ozil and Sanchez. They have Pedro, Willian, Moses as wide players, we have Chamberlain, Walcott, Welbeck, Perez. Is their 'big two' and selection if wide players so much better than ours? Look at Chelsea's backline - Azpilicueta, Luiz, Cahill and Alonso. FFS I couldnt believe they brought Luiz back, I thought Cahill was well past it, and Alonso spent last season on loan at Sunderland. Chelsea though are organized and defend as a unit. Their shape slides when the other team moves the ball sideways, they push up together, and drop together. Chelsea are organized, disciplined, and high standards are enforced. Whilst under Wenger, there is no organization, our shape is often non-existent, and we dont have a manager or captain strong enough to enforce high standards across the squad.

Ty from AFTV and other feckless idiots keep saying 'its not the manager, its the players'. However, the reality is, it is the manager, not the players. As if Conte, Pep, Klopp or Jose got their hands on this team, they would have enough to work with to compete for the title. And if Wenger went to manage Chelsea................they wouldn't win jack shit.

I was talking about this the other day, with an Everton fan who kept telling me how shit we are (like I need telling, and from a poxy Everton fan as well).
The only prem squads I would swap for ours is Chelseas and maybe citys. Other than that i couldnt really think of any (that includes the vermin).
Don't get me wrong, we have some deadwood and they have recently put in some of the most gutless performances i have ever seen from an Arsenal team.
I don't think the squad would need a massive overhaul if we get the right manager. They just need leadership, direction and tactics. The hardest part would be cleansing the club of a "top 4 is a trophy" attitude.

[silus]

Gotta love the old "dont go to games, its your falt, you're lining their pockets" mantra from people who dont go to games anyway.

Just another easy excuse to do nothing.

Theres too many not prepared to do that. Also theres people who still want Wenger in. And theres lots of day trippers and corporates

Ive a better idea....What about you actually go to games and protest? Oh yea forgot. You dont go to games.

Been saying the same for years.
Whilst I get the point that it's giving them money, if more dissenting voices were in the stadium we would have a chance of getting the fucker out.
At the end of the day I'm an Arsenal fan and am always going to want to go and see them. Other teams supporters dont give up going when they have problems with owners/managers, they go to the games and make their opinion known.
I'd never dig people out for not going, everyone can make their own choices...but it pisses me off people calling those that do go mugs, sheep etc.
Maybe if people hadn't given up so easily, we wouldn't be in the world of shit that we are now.

[robbo10]

The bottom line is that wenker could be given a 500 million transfer kitty this summer and it still wont make an iota of a difference cos -

(a) he doesn't know how to set up a team regardless of what players he has
(b) all across the world players will be very aware that wenker's rep is done for good, and this so called attraction of playing for him will no longer exist and will be more of a reason to reject joining us
(c) every player in the world will know of the civil war surrounding the club nowadays. They will all know that this rebellion is focused on wenker, and they will realise that giving the manager a new contract is likely to cause even more trouble with the fans, and no player will want to play in that kind of environment.

Nothing else needs to be said,the top line says it all,he cannot build a side with 10000000 quid,he's done,I personally wouldn't let him spend another 50 quid of Arsenal's money,he's been given money but wastes it on dogshit players,with probably Sanchez and Ozil the exception,but look how he uses them,I just wonder how volatile the Grove will be once he announces his contract extension,I can see a lot more trouble breaking out,because people won't walk away because of Wenger as its our club.

If its a civil war then I guess I'm a secessionist?

[OneBardGooner]

Gotta love the old "dont go to games, its your falt, you're lining their pockets" mantra from people who dont go to games anyway.

Just another easy excuse to do nothing.

Theres too many not prepared to do that. Also theres people who still want Wenger in. And theres lots of day trippers and corporates

Ive a better idea....What about you actually go to games and protest? Oh yea forgot. You dont go to games.

Hiya Mate,

I have huge respect for you and others (including DT & Troopz - whom many say have jumped on the bandwagon of the Wenger Out Cause) how you all have taken the fight to Arsene / Arsenal with (bravely) protesting with your banner before all the other banners came along.


I don't go to games anymore my last game was last season, however when I can afford it financially and time-wise I intend to protest/march - I still won't go to games - But I will protest. There are others in similar positions - due to the fact we do not live locally or do not have the finances.

Yes, I agree the next step is going to HAVE TO BE Banners and Protests INSIDE the ground - Which will most likely regrettably lead to more confrontation/violence between fans - But I simply will not step inside the ground again - till wenger is Gone.(*) Unless someone wants to give me a ticket and I will happily protest & hold up banners inside.

I know there are a rock steady group of you who have done more than anyone else and you all deserve High Praise, but sadly it is just a fact that some of us Cannot be present at All marches and are simply not able to attend games.

One of the reasons I say this is because the divide that exists between the AKB's and the WOB's (I hate both those terms but it saves time) is now beginning to appear between groups of WOB's and groups of AKB's - It is more like a 'Splintering' than a divide now. Personally, and I know of others on here who also dearly want to be able to do more, but simply have to put everyday / life priorities first and foremost.

So, whilst I understand the anger at the apathy of the majority of fans and some the frustration at 'so many doing so little'. The lack of 'Action' by the majority of Gooners, is not just apathy (the majority yes, but not all) as it also needs to be recognised that there really is only so much some of us can 'Do'.

I am not having a go at you, but trying to explain why some on here, are not as active as some believe they should be.

#WENGEROUT




(*) I have become that disillusioned with the way things have become, I actually wonder if I will ever care for Arsenal in the way I once did, even when wenger is gone.

[General]

Gotta love the old "dont go to games, its your falt, you're lining their pockets" mantra from people who dont go to games anyway.

Just another easy excuse to do nothing.

Theres too many not prepared to do that. Also theres people who still want Wenger in. And theres lots of day trippers and corporates

Ive a better idea....What about you actually go to games and protest? Oh yea forgot. You dont go to games.

Laughable isn't it.

Actually it's because of the protests I started going to games again after a nearly 7year absence.

[Blade]

Mustafi £35 million!!!

With a dossier of 30000 players world-wide did he know this guy was an Everton reject?.

And btw he plays RB for Germany.

[General]

16 May 2017

Arsenal Football Club would like to announce that its long serving manager Arsene Wenger will depart from the club at the end of the current season. Arsene will take up an ambassadorial role for the club following his departure.

On 18th March 2017, Arsene informed the board that he did not wish to extend his stay at the club beyond his current contract period which ends on 31st June 2017. The board asked for this decision to be kept private until a successor has been secured to ensure a smooth transition of power.

The board would like to confirm that Tomas Tuchel will take over as the club's new head coach from 1st July 2017. Marc Overmars has been appointed as the club's new director of football and will report directly to the Chief Executive Officer Ivan Gazidis.


The club would also like to confirm that the Chairman did not fund a plane to display a banner over the Hawthorn's stadium and in fact he has been a WOB for some time together with Lord Peckham and of course Ivan Gazidis.

The board would like to thank Arsene for his immense contribution to this great club. Having taken over in 1996 and not 1886 like some AKBs would want you to believe, Arsene has guided the club to 3PL titles, 6 FA cups and 6 community shields making him the most successful manager in the club's history. Unfortunately a European trophy eluded him during this period although he insists Samuel Eto'o was offside for both goals during the 2006 UCL.

The club hopes that the WOBs will now put their banners away and join us in our home game against Everton on 5 May to celebrate Arsene's achievements and give him the sending off he deserves.


Yours sincerely
Chairman

Chippy.

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[xisstential]

16 May 2017

Arsenal Football Club would like to announce that its long serving manager Arsene Wenger will depart from the club at the end of the current season. Arsene will take up an ambassadorial role for the club following his departure.

On 18th March 2017, Arsene informed the board that he did not wish to extend his stay at the club beyond his current contract period which ends on 31st June 2017. The board asked for this decision to be kept private until a successor has been secured to ensure a smooth transition of power.

The board would like to confirm that Tomas Tuchel will take over as the club's new head coach from 1st July 2017. Marc Overmars has been appointed as the club's new director of football and will report directly to the Chief Executive Officer Ivan Gazidis.


The club would also like to confirm that the Chairman did not fund a plane to display a banner over the Hawthorn's stadium and in fact he has been a WOB for some time together with Lord Peckham and of course Ivan Gazidis.

The board would like to thank Arsene for his immense contribution to this great club. Having taken over in 1996 and not 1886 like some AKBs would want you to believe, Arsene has guided the club to 3PL titles, 6 FA cups and 6 community shields making him the most successful manager in the club's history. Unfortunately a European trophy eluded him during this period although he insists Samuel Eto'o was offside for both goals during the 2006 UCL.

The club hopes that the WOBs will now put their banners away and join us in our home game against Everton on 5 May to celebrate Arsene's achievements and give him the sending off he deserves.


Yours sincerely
Chairman

Chippy.

Copyright 2017 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to http://www.arsenal.com as the source
Read more at http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... sRuaTma.99

So only one more month of protesting then

[OneBardGooner]

16 May 2017

Arsenal Football Club would like to announce that its long serving manager Arsene Wenger will depart from the club at the end of the current season. Arsene will take up an ambassadorial role for the club following his departure.

On 18th March 2017, Arsene informed the board that he did not wish to extend his stay at the club beyond his current contract period which ends on 31st June 2017. The board asked for this decision to be kept private until a successor has been secured to ensure a smooth transition of power.

The board would like to confirm that Tomas Tuchel will take over as the club's new head coach from 1st July 2017. Marc Overmars has been appointed as the club's new director of football and will report directly to the Chief Executive Officer Ivan Gazidis.


The club would also like to confirm that the Chairman did not fund a plane to display a banner over the Hawthorn's stadium and in fact he has been a WOB for some time together with Lord Peckham and of course Ivan Gazidis.

The board would like to thank Arsene for his immense contribution to this great club. Having taken over in 1996 and not 1886 like some AKBs would want you to believe, Arsene has guided the club to 3PL titles, 6 FA cups and 6 community shields making him the most successful manager in the club's history. Unfortunately a European trophy eluded him during this period although he insists Samuel Eto'o was offside for both goals during the 2006 UCL.

The club hopes that the WOBs will now put their banners away and join us in our home game against Everton on 5 May to celebrate Arsene's achievements and give him the sending off he deserves.


Yours sincerely
Chairman

Chippy.

Copyright 2017 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to http://www.arsenal.com as the source
Read more at http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... sRuaTma.99

Yer twatt I nearly had a coronary when I read the first few lines of that.

[Dudeface]

Funny but they don't really have history or expectations


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[Offside]

Mustafi £35 million!!!

With a dossier of 30000 players world-wide did he know this guy was an Everton reject?.

And btw he plays RB for Germany.

Mustafi was probably the weakest of Germany's World Cup defenders (and naturally he ends up with us ) but I think with proper coaching and organisation, he could be a good defender but it'll never happen with Wenger in charge.

Last summer we were linked to Jonny Evans. I have a soft spot for him as he's a Belfast boy but I don't think many Arsenal fans rate him but he'd have been probably been rubbish for us because of the defensive malaise that affects anyone who plays at the back for Wenger. At Man Utd he had Fergie pulling the strings and Ferdinand/Vidic to hold his hand and he became a solid CB and at West Brom, where Pulis drills the defence extra hard, he looks solid. At Arsenal you know he'd have been a disaster.