THE CHELSKI CONSPIRACY - FINAL THOUGHTS

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flash gunner wrote:
Graham Wilkinson wrote:Roly,

Good news.

I am not at all upset that you don't care that I don't believe you.

I have enough to worry about without giving too much consideration to you views on my views of your theories.

Incidentally, you may recall that in a previous thread I challenged you to reveal your true name. You refused, I think on the grounds that your life might be at risk from psychotic fellow forum members. Shortly afterwards a third party PMd me with your details.

I have, of course, to date respected your wishes. But if the pressure from fellow members to tell all becomes too intense, I might not be able to bear it and I might weaken. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
Roly what odds would you give on GW spilling the beans on your info :wink: :lol: :lol:

he will probably tell you after he has/hasn't. :roll:

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anyway as you know mr a not seen in uk for several weeks. there is a theory he had to stay out ofcountry for tax reasons althiough if that is so i am surprised not mentioned in media - my theory is his absence due to working on fixing the final and making sure all his mates would be looked after.
ROLY.... Lets just say for 1 minute that your not a mad man and your theory is right, you dont think Mr A would physically go round to peoples houses/ offices/ hotels trying to fix the final do you? A man with the money he has would have someone doing all the dirty work on his behalf while he lays back on his yacht in Monaco or watches the Chavs or whatever

Im curious what your next wild accusation is going to be Roly :D

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GW

YOU CAN FUCKING DO WHAT YOU FUCKING LIKE BUT I RATHER SUSPECT GOONER ED WOULD NOT BE HAPPY IF YOU DO AS YOU THREATEN NOR DO I SUSPECT WOULD ANYONE ELSE WHO USES THIS FORUM BE IMPRESSED BECAUSE SO FAR AS I CAN MAKE OUT EVERYONE ELSE BUT YOU WANKER RESPECTS EVERYONE ELSE`S ENTITLEMENT TO ANONYMITY

YOU NEVER KNOW-YOU COULD BE THE CAUSE OF THIS FORUM BEING CLOSED PERMANENTLY SO I REPEAT FUCK OFF YOU STUPID IGNORANT MORONIC POMPOUS DICKHEAD

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FLASH GUNNER- 2 CHARLIES


see my post to that cretin GW. no fucking chance of him posting my details

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GOONER ED

why wait so long.?

i have answered that before. he now realises his little club cannot do it honestly so a little help is needed.

i agree it is illogical to fix route to final and not fix final itself


i also agree comfort in chelski winning is knowing its corrupt and knowing the madman incharge of muppets will be so pissed off and even more so if he realises his corrupt club have been outmanouevred in the corruption stakes

ps sort out that idiot GW. part of the fun is the anonymity

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rolypoly wrote:GW

YOU CAN FUCKING DO WHAT YOU FUCKING LIKE BUT I RATHER SUSPECT GOONER ED WOULD NOT BE HAPPY IF YOU DO AS YOU THREATEN NOR DO I SUSPECT WOULD ANYONE ELSE WHO USES THIS FORUM BE IMPRESSED BECAUSE SO FAR AS I CAN MAKE OUT EVERYONE ELSE BUT YOU WANKER RESPECTS EVERYONE ELSE`S ENTITLEMENT TO ANONYMITY

YOU NEVER KNOW-YOU COULD BE THE CAUSE OF THIS FORUM BEING CLOSED PERMANENTLY SO I REPEAT FUCK OFF YOU STUPID IGNORANT MORONIC POMPOUS DICKHEAD
Personally I am appalled that a forum member would write a post like this. There is plenty of good natured banter on here that gets very close to the mark, but it is always with a degree of tongue in cheek. What I read here was an outright vitriolic abuse of another forum member and it shocked me. I am a very liberal person but I believe that this post is slanderous and that the person responsible should be banned from the forum. Provocation is no excuse for such behaviour and if Rolypoly wanted to censor GW then it should have been done through a moderator and within the pm system.
You should feel ashamed of yourself :shock: :shock:

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rolypoly wrote:FLASH GUNNER- 2 CHARLIES


see my post to that cretin GW. no fucking chance of him posting my details

2 Olys,

My quip was related to the betting side of things not the revealing of identity. I agree you have the right to remain anonymous - chill out pal! :lol:

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flash gunner

i agree mr a would be pulling strings in the background


rocky

you dont believe cos you dont want to believe.

oh and if you read this morning rags wenger, whose opinion you no doubt do respect, says result of final is down to the ref. even he thinks the whole thing is corrupt and he is in better position than me to know and in case you dont know he was victim of corruption in france when manager of monaco and everyone then thought he was nutter for suggesting french league bent . he was proved right,..

only difference i have no proof - nor did wenger at the time- and mr a far smarter than monsieur tapie. but if you wish like majority to dismiss the circumstantial evidence as a chapter of coincidences that is fine. may explain one reason why mr a is stinking rich and never been collared.

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spudmasher

maybe i was ott but gw riles me cos he comes across as total pompous prat full of his own self importance.

so far as i can make out he is the only one who not only advertises, presumably, his real name but also his personal e mail address.

as for going through moderators dont know how that works and given i`ve
pissed off TS and the breadhater i dont suppose i`d get much joy from them.

quite honest if my details were publicised it aint going to make much difference to my life -just more junk on the email i suppose but i like my privacy. and their are some psychotic fruit bats who do use this forum

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rolypoly wrote:spudmasher

maybe i was ott but gw riles me cos he comes across as total pompous prat full of his own self importance.

so far as i can make out he is the only one who not only advertises, presumably, his real name but also his personal e mail address.

as for going through moderators dont know how that works and given i`ve
pissed off TS and the breadhater i dont suppose i`d get much joy from them.

quite honest if my details were publicised it aint going to make much difference to my life -just more junk on the email i suppose but i like my privacy. and their are some psychotic fruit bats who do use this forum
I'm sorry Roly but that doesn't justify your outburst. You should read what you have written in the post quoted here and see if you can apply any of those comments to yourself. I am writing to Kev to register my feelings about this (I'm telling you so as I won't go behind your back to do it). I'm shocked to see something like that from an educated person working in your profession and will accept no excuse.

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ok - been called in to have a look at this...

GW wrote - "Incidentally, you may recall that in a previous thread I challenged you to reveal your true name. You refused, I think on the grounds that your life might be at risk from psychotic fellow forum members. Shortly afterwards a third party PMd me with your details.

I have, of course, to date respected your wishes. But if the pressure from fellow members to tell all becomes too intense, I might not be able to bear it and I might weaken. Let's hope that doesn't happen."

RolyPoly responded with a stream of vitriol.

However let me make a few things absolutely clear. Forum members retain the right to anonymity. I have no idea if anyone did forward RP's personal details or not, but if they did, that is out of order and unacceptable. GW then issued what could be seen as banter or could be seen as a threat depending on how it is read. But if Roly wanted to behave like some others we don't talk about anymore, he would have grounds for complaint.

Roly is a wind up merchant. The wind up does include personal abuse. It's unnecessary, but as long as he doesn't go into territory that is beyond the pale, then it's not a banning issue.

I understand he is unpopular because of this, and I can actually believe he winds some people up to the degree that there are some who would land one on him.

But where do I draw the line? Because he is not popular I should ban him for personal abuse? No. There is all kinds of stuff that goes on in the forum and depending on who is being abused and who is the one issuing the abuse, then a lot of it is regarded as acceptable.

Roly throws insults out to (let's say for example) people who drink lager with the intention of hooking them in and then getting into a personal trade of insults. He gives them out, he takes them back. He enjoys it. However, we can't take chances with people threatening to reveal personal information even if it is in jest. I can't actually be sure if GW means it or not, although I hope it is banter.

Roly's reaction was not pleasant, but he obviously felt this was beyond the line. And I think in this one instance he was justified. This won't be popular, but it is reasonable. The forum is open to all who play by the rules. Roly's reaction was unpleasant, but in this instance, he did not overstep the mark in the first instance, so I am not going to go heavy on him. If I ban him, I first have to ban GW. I don't want to ban anyone if I can help it.

My advice to anyone who gets into debate with Roly is to completely ignore any personal insults that accompany his views. I do. It's a wind up. Don't give him the satisfaction of falling for it. Just stick with the football issues regarding your exchanges and ignore personal asides. His need to make those is to do with his own psychological make-up, don't let it affect yours.

I've got sh*tloads of work to do and won't be able to check back very often today. If this gets any further out of hand, please PM me.

I'm so f**king busy I might just get Rob to suspend the forum if you people can't co-exist without threats against personal safety being issued, in jest or otherwise.

Let's all move on.

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spudmasher

you are shocked are you. dear oh dear. so in your little perfect world no corruption exists and prof. people dont tell wankers who threaten themto fuck off -sorry but wrong. and you can write to gooner ed the queen and god fucking almighty himself=i dont give a fucking toss.

in my book in making the threat gw is a fucking wanker-end of.

lets see if he dares do as he threatens or if he is bluffing

anyway this is distractingfrom the main thread. chelski will win tonight cos mr a has arranged it -i think.

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Contrary to what Roly thinks, I come down on his side here. Now, his outburst was definitely over the top, but if I’m completely honest, I was shocked to see GW’s threat to Roly on here;
I have, of course, to date respected your wishes. But if the pressure from fellow members to tell all becomes too intense, I might not be able to bear it and I might weaken. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
To me, that was completely unnecessary and it seemed like he was just using bully-boy intimidation tactics as a means of making Roly feel uncomfortable here – and that is just not on.

We all have a bit of banter here, and we all give as good as we get, but making personal threats to anyone on here really does overstep the mark. On top of that, I’m sure that if someone’s personal details were posted on here with malicious intent, the person who was on the wrong end of that (in this case, Roly) would be perfectly within their rights to take action against either the individual who put the details up or the site itself (sound familiar?).

I don’t want this ill-feeling to continue, which is why I stayed out of it until now. However, it seems like this one will drag on, hence my post. So, just to clarify; Roly, your outburst against GW was most definitely excessive, but if I were in a position where someone was threatening to reveal my personal details (against my wishes) on a very public forum, I think I’d object just as strongly. GW; it’s nothing personal mate, and I’m sure it was all part of the banter, but threatening someone in such a way really is taking it a bit too far.

So – Roly may well have won £55k. If he did, then well done to him. If he didn’t, then he’s certainly doing a good job winding us all up, isn’t he? I suggest that we all stop taking this so seriously and just chill out a little.

For what it’s worth – if the Chavs lose tonight, I will be certain within myself that there was no conspiracy! 8)

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Whoops, Gooner.ed already dealt with it... :oops:

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thank you ts and gooner ed but gooner ed you must take responsibility for any defect in my psychological make up.

all stems from that bloody headline of yours. up to that moment i had been the supreme optimist but in that one moment me and my mates -and you have met some of them -essentially sane rational intelligent people (all real ale lovers of course so free of the chemicals that have destroyed the brain cells of most who use this forum) - knew it was all over and so it proved to be - all too quickly.

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