THE WENGER THREAD

[Perryashburtongroves]

This thread is gonna get MERGED

Of course it will,how many Wenger threads do we need.

I know the answer to that but I won't tell you right now. I'll tell you when the time is right and that I'll do whatever I think is best for this forum.

You have been on this forum for 10 years and how would posters like myself understand what threads should be merged and what shouldn't

How many threads were there before I arrived? I think I built this forum. There were reasons I stayed when I could have gone elsewhere but people only think about now.

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

Want to win simply because it doesnt matter one bit in the scheme of AW getting a contract extension

If it did matter and it was win and keep AW or lose and he's gone. Obviously I think 90% of people on here would take the loss.

[mcdowell42]

This thread is gonna get MERGED

Of course it will,how many Wenger threads do we need.

I know the answer to that but I won't tell you right now. I'll tell you when the time is right and that I'll do whatever I think is best for this forum.

You have been on this forum for 10 years and how would posters like myself understand what threads should be merged and what shouldn't

The main Wenger thread is over 2000 pages long ,this thread is about Wenger ,not rocket science

[Eboue-Why?]

2125 pages....has he gone yet?

[sk-gtfo]

IMO there can be no way Stan or the board would be thinking that a new contract is the way to go. This is a different scenario than other seasons.
We have not had a good result in the league for MONTHS!
Spurs are now well and truly ahead of us in football terms and closing in financially.
The CL, the be all and end all is slipping away big style and the financial implications and effect that has on attracting players are huge.
Our two biggest playing assets Sanchez and Ozil are going to have to sold on the cheap or be allowed to run their contracts out with very little commitment from them next season.
There are no media pundits defending Wenger now, they are maybe not openly hostile but they are unanimous in saying it's time up now.
On Wednesday night, three days after beating moneybags Man City and football genius Pep the total anticlimax of a sparse attendance and a disinterest from those present shows there is no appetite for the current regime.

I have no idea if there is any sort of a plan. If there is I don't think Wenger knows about it and that's why he's so tetchy. Given the fixtures left and our form and the lack of commitment from the players i can see the remaining games being an absolute nightmare for Wenger, an excercise in damage limitation rather than any sort on challenge for the coveted 4th place VT.

I really think he is gone now. The board are not so stupid not to see these things but who knows what they have in place to sort it.

You have more confidence than me about our useless board, however should we as expected lose to Chelsea in the final and finish the season as expected on a low and out of the top 4 then I think they may just see the ST waiting list disappear overnight come renewal time if Wenger is staying.

It would actually be quite amusing, in a macabre sense, to see us playing in front of 35,000-45,000 regularly next season with Wenger sat in front of rows of empty seats, ok I know there are already a fair few but I think it would get really noticeable next season under him, no one really has the appetite for more bland, dull, boring, repetitve Wenger world.

[sk-gtfo]

Preston
Sutton
Lincoln
Southampton reserves
Man City (hit the woodwork twice)

Sheer luck we're in the final, think it will run out against the chavs.

[TeeCee]

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[Clash]

I was asking this question in 2014 and I am afraid the joy I got from winning our first trophy in 9 years wasn't anywhere enough to have to endure 3 more years of Wenger.

I cannot take anymore of that prick. If he stays I think I will completely turn my back on the club.

He is polluting the way I think about football. He is suffocating our club so much that the traditional things that I used to care about, like us winning and hated rivals not winning trophies, are being suffocated along with it.

Its like if someone or something is holding your head under water. The ONLY thing you are thinking about at that moment is getting yourself free. At that moment, your family, your house, bills, promotion at work etc. are not in your thoughts. If you get free you can care about them later.

I am like that with Wenger. Once he has gone, I probably will look back and be fucked off that Chelsea did the double in 2017 and that we finished behind the filth ... but at the moment the ONLY football related thing I am interested in is Wenger leaving Arsenal.

[Clash]

Preston
Sutton
Lincoln
Southampton reserves
Man City (hit the woodwork twice)

Sheer luck we're in the final, think it will run out against the chavs.

Dont rule out Kante being injured / suspended for the final. Wenger's luck knows no limit.

[Clash]

That we should have to answer that is just sad but actually a good question as it could well turn out to be a realistic scenario.Losing a final against a local rival we have no love for,madness.But I am looking at the bigger picture.

He has to go for me and should of gone many,many years ago 2011 after the mauling at OT should of been it,he should of resigned let alone sacked .The longer he stays the rebuilding job becomes harder for who comes in.IF we were to somehow ride our luck and win the final he will stay.

He had a chance to bow out with a bit of dignity 2014 Hull which we almost blew.If Gibbs doesn't head that off the line we are 3 down and it would of been all over.Not for the first time Wenger got out of jail.

I would say as well for all the obvious flaws he has as a manager the thought of him spending money in the next window just adds even more reason to part ways.Say there is another 90m to spend before we lose Sanchez for example,who trusts him to spot a player anymore..I don't.

He spent 90m last summer and wasted it badly.Holding we were quibbling over the 2-3m fee all summer.The Mustafi and Xhaxa deals and the wages they are on mean we have done our dough big time there.New deals for Mertersacker,Coquelin and Giroud bad,bad calls.Let alone the tactical flaws and lack of coaching obvious.The players are not improving under him,that is obvious.The 'good football' argument can be put well and truly to bed as well we play side to side,slow tepid football.A team is a reflection of the manager.Lacks leadership let alone quality.

The manager doesn't even know what sort of player he is buying in a 30m central midfielder Xhaka in Wenger's own words 'a box to box' midfielder.The manager obviously must of been scouting and watching a different player,because that is one thing he certainly isn't.

That a player like Holding has been deemed one of if not the only bright light on the playing side this season says it all.He has played 11 times and 1 sub app.

We have one of the biggest turnovers in world football and a massive wage bill to work with.He has had years and chance after chance to create a championship challenging side,no one has a divine right to win anything.With the resources we now operate with how anyone can see this season as anything but failure is beyond me.

All true.

Good post mate.

[Topside Northbank]

IMO there can be no way Stan or the board would be thinking that a new contract is the way to go. This is a different scenario than other seasons.
We have not had a good result in the league for MONTHS!
Spurs are now well and truly ahead of us in football terms and closing in financially.
The CL, the be all and end all is slipping away big style and the financial implications and effect that has on attracting players are huge.
Our two biggest playing assets Sanchez and Ozil are going to have to sold on the cheap or be allowed to run their contracts out with very little commitment from them next season.
There are no media pundits defending Wenger now, they are maybe not openly hostile but they are unanimous in saying it's time up now.
On Wednesday night, three days after beating moneybags Man City and football genius Pep the total anticlimax of a sparse attendance and a disinterest from those present shows there is no appetite for the current regime.

I have no idea if there is any sort of a plan. If there is I don't think Wenger knows about it and that's why he's so tetchy. Given the fixtures left and our form and the lack of commitment from the players i can see the remaining games being an absolute nightmare for Wenger, an excercise in damage limitation rather than any sort on challenge for the coveted 4th place VT.

I really think he is gone now. The board are not so stupid not to see these things but who knows what they have in place to sort it.

You have more confidence than me about our useless board, however should we as expected lose to Chelsea in the final and finish the season as expected on a low and out of the top 4 then I think they may just see the ST waiting list disappear overnight come renewal time if Wenger is staying.

It would actually be quite amusing, in a macabre sense, to see us playing in front of 35,000-45,000 regularly next season with Wenger sat in front of rows of empty seats, ok I know there are already a fair few but I think it would get really noticeable next season under him, no one really has the appetite for more bland, dull, boring, repetitve Wenger world.

Martian Keown was just on not 5 live-Not official....I quote

He can argue quite rightly that even next season should the average attendance drop to say 40,000 it is a significant improvement on the 38,000 I used to play in front of at Highbury....you have to give Wenger credit for that.There is a recession on and the comfort of watching football at home has to be a factor.It's still the hottest ticket in town,So hot that people are refusing to pick it up.

I have read a lot of criticism recently of Wenger,be careful what you wish for the season is still live Arsenal are in a Cup final,well deserved after beating two opponents especially in Lincoln and Sutton that they have never met before under Wenger a testament to preparation and getting the job done.

The focus has been on the manager and he deserves a lot of backing.Arsenal seem to concede more than they score at present and Wenger knows football is an entertainment business.Modern premier league football demands 0-0's are not the way forward,he deserves a lot of credit for Arsenal's socialist way of helping an opponent in trouble.Crystal Palace fans sung his name with gusto recently as did WBA fans.he is respected.

Arsene has revolutionized Arsenal you have to give him a chance to turn it around,lots of negatives are in fact positives.

People talk about change of system,change of playing Thursday,Sunday may just suit Arsenal next season and European football is not a given...you have to,have to give Wenger credit for that.

[rodders999]

A picture paints a thousand words....




I woke up this morning feeling slightly hungover but mightily relieved. A strange sensation considering what happened yesterday, but as I said after the first time we witnessed the 3-4-3 at Boro, there's a 6 nil hammering on our horizon playing that formation and I'm just fucking grateful it didn't happen yesterday.

We've taken a rinsing at Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and The Ethiad down through the years which have all been horrible, horrible days but if we took a fisting at the swamp I would never recover.

It was a fucking miracle it didn't happen yesterday, because 5 or 6 wouldn't have flattered the bastards but as I've said already it's only a matter of time and you'd now have to be extremely fearful of what's gonna happen in the cup final.

That could be a fucking massacre

[xisstential]

A picture paints a thousand words....




I woke up this morning feeling slightly hungover but mightily relieved. A strange sensation considering what happened yesterday, but as I said after the first time we witnessed the 3-4-3 at Boro, there's a 6 nil hammering on our horizon playing that formation and I'm just fucking grateful it didn't happen yesterday.

We've taken a rinsing at Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and The Ethiad down through the years which have all been horrible, horrible days but if we took a fisting at the swamp I would never recover.

It was a fucking miracle it didn't happen yesterday, because 5 or 6 wouldn't have flattered the bastards but as I've said already it's only a matter of time and you'd now have to be extremely fearful of what's gonna happen in the cup final.

That could be a fucking massacre

Imagine being on the field, not a leader in sight, 2 goals down, help desperately needed, so you look over to the bench and................Wenger head down, Bould away with who knows what or where.....

The damage Wenger is inflicting is fast becoming damn near irreparable

[Gunner Rob]

If someone told me now that we would lose 5-0 in the cup final and that would be Wenger's last match then I would probably take that to be honest

[Bradywasking]

Found out again yesterday...The five at the back formation hasn't really worked ..Gave twelve scoring chances to 'Boro..said on that thread that the turning point was Downing being switched to the left after Traore came on..Downing had Monreal up a stick each time by taking the ball onto Monreal 's right foot..
Against City we started at the back like startled rabbits..Got very lucky with the disallowed goal but even luckier with the injury to Silva..City became predictable then as Silva is possibly the best player in England to find space between players or lines of players..Sterling was muck in comparison.
Leicester..OG to beat a relegation threatened team...
So chickens came home to roost yesterday and we and our manager were shown up for being tactically inept..again..
No thought put into where Tottenham players were going to appear on the pitch..No communication between defenders as to passing on a running player..Closing space is not zonal marking in the sense that we know it from set pieces..It is being aware of movement and we have no awareness..