As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Gunner Rob wrote:ok so he has come out and said it this morning at the press conference:
"HIS FUTURE WILL BE DECIDED AT A POST CUP FINAL BOARD MEETING"
what do you think will be acceptable for them to announce the 2 year extension then ? - a competitive defeat to Chelsea ?
might he go if we get hammered by 4 or 5 ??
5th place and a mauling in the final..chavs won't stiffen us even though they easily could.It'll be 2-0 or 3-1 chavski enough for le bulbeye to pen a new deal.
yeah we will probably win the first half 1-0 and so he can go on about winning the FA Cup if we only played the 1st half...
then he can bring in his old the team were jaded excuse. "Yes er well Chelsea could er relax for sometime before ze cup final because they had already won ze league. But for us...special circumstances I believe because we had to fight until the very last day to get ze 4th place trophy"
Won the league because they never played in the CL (neither did we really but we'll ignore that)......And the FA really do need to looook at ze fixture leest....
If we lose that final-which we will- there is surely no fucking way the stupid *word censored* can stay. The Chavs will have done the double, the scum have finished above us, we'll be in the Europa League and he'll have nothing to fall back on. No excuses, no made-up theories, no position of power or superiority. It'll be all over. The board know it, they'll just be pulling the trigger away from the spot-light of the season. The club know that keeping him on after the shittest season in years would be the biggest backwards step in our history and the biggest sign that failure is accepted at Arsenal. Lose in eight days time and he's done for.
I feel like there should be some sort of Donnie Darko style countdown. "Eight days, however many hours....."
Redarmy wrote:
Speaking in his autobiography Sober, serialised in the Sun, he said: "Perhaps Arsene thought I might be too challenging for him.
"He seemed to like an assistant such as Pat Rice or Steve Bould, both great club men who were not going to ruffle feathers.
"Arsene is so dominant that he was probably not going to like it if I said, 'We're conceding bad goals, I'm going to take the back four today and organise them'.
"Because Arsene is essentially not a coach - and that is the second reason why I believe he didn't want me. Back in the day I said in an interview coaching wasn't Arsene's strong point.
"Actually in the original draft, I said he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. And though I modified that in the final article, it didn't go down well.
That line makes me despair
Think what we have maybe missed out on over the last decade because Arsene fucking Wenger refused to allow anyone else to get involved. Involvement that almost certainly would have improved our chances of winning and most definitely prevented the regular humiliations !
I think the contract has now finally been signed. I saw online yesterday that Kroenke was flying into London yesterday for discussions... and I can't think that he'd just agree to the decision being delayed by two weeks and flying back home without an outcome.
Seems to me like Wenger's signed the extension, but they're deliberately going to leave it until after we've played our last game of the season so that the fans can't backlash against the decision.
On the more positive side, thank fuck for Tony Adams.
Redarmy wrote:
Speaking in his autobiography Sober, serialised in the Sun, he said: "Perhaps Arsene thought I might be too challenging for him.
"He seemed to like an assistant such as Pat Rice or Steve Bould, both great club men who were not going to ruffle feathers.
"Arsene is so dominant that he was probably not going to like it if I said, 'We're conceding bad goals, I'm going to take the back four today and organise them'.
"Because Arsene is essentially not a coach - and that is the second reason why I believe he didn't want me. Back in the day I said in an interview coaching wasn't Arsene's strong point.
"Actually in the original draft, I said he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. And though I modified that in the final article, it didn't go down well.
That line makes me despair
Think what we have maybe missed out on over the last decade because Arsene fucking Wenger refused to allow anyone else to get involved. Involvement that almost certainly would have improved our chances of winning and most definitely prevented the regular humiliations !
Shame Bould just sits there saying nothing, understand he's picking up his weekly money but he is doing the club a huge disservice
As a fan of Arsenal at this moment you see a very bleak future. If we had a competent board we would have gone out and signed Allegri as he seemed interested in the challenge. Now he is top class but has signed a new deal with a brilliant Juventus side.
Just look at what could happen firstly if Wenger stays. Sanchez is definitely off even if we win the cup nothing can change that. Ozil might stay if Wenger does because of an easy life and not so many teams interested but could easily leave. Bellerin might jump at the chance to go to Barcelona. Ox we know is looking at Liverpool and Klopp.
Even a new manager coming in can't turn around the exit of our best players well maybe not Ox but he has done well lately and shown improvement.
Point is Wenger best option is to leave and go and hide somewhere because our problems are too big to be fixed next season and our biggest challenge that we have to rely on the board to get right is signing the correct manager.
Kronke's view is of course key, and he is not a stupid man, or a sentimental one. Gazidis will brief him about the financial implications of Arsenal missing out on the Champions' League. He will be made acutely aware that this is unlikely to be a one-year 'blip' so long as Wenger is at the helm - the likes of Spurs, City, Liverpool and probably Man United will inevitably be in a position to strengthen their squads significantly on the back of being in the Champions' League (I'm not sure Chelsea need to, though no doubt they will anyway), while Arsenal will not only be unable to attract any players of calibre and ambition but will likely lose the few they already have. We will fall further behind, which will affect the money coming in.
I understand the pessimism - he has seemed unassailable for so long, and has led a charmed life through scraping into the top-four. But unless Liverpool implode on Sunday, I would say the fat lady is warming up her tonsils. FA Cup FInal? In the unlikely event we won, it would mean that he is able to leave on something on a high, but I doubt the outcome of the final will affect the decision. Winning the Cup didn't save Louis Van Gaal last year - missing out on Champions' League qualification was enough to cook his goose.
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