THE WENGER THREAD

[augie]

Funny how he stated before the game that his future didn't depend on one game and now stating that the cup final is presentation to the board. What a hypocrite. Also said that winning fa cup final showed his commitment. What a joke

That is one of the most ridiculous statements that he has ever come out with - if he is saying that bringing in a dvd of the cup final should be proof enough of him being the right man for the job (as he told the journo's after the game), then couldn't the other board members bring in copies of the palace and baggies defeats, and bring in a list of braindead decisions he made such as dropping sanchez for citteh away

[Redarmy]

as posted earlier, not a matter of him staying....thats a given, (only minimal outside chance that Wenger himself could say No)

But Wenger now wants the unequivocal support of the Gunners board at a meeting tomorrow to confirm his future before committing to the two-year deal on the table.

The Frenchman, 67, held positive discussions with Stan Kroenke after Saturday’s Wembley win.

some poster also stated one game makes no difference...of course it does....Wenger say...
“The best presentation is to watch the game, then there can be no doubt.”

He wants to sort the boardroom out totally....and he will, he wants total support, thats what he demands

Wenger is saying that he wants the board to unanimously agree and then ask him to stay on as manager. He will then tell them whether or not he wants to stay.

[cameron326]

Wenger today.....

"You know, we cannot say 'oh fantastic, I enjoy that'. So, there's a kind of violence in our society now where everybody has opinions and we have to live with it, but I just, the only thing I say, I accept, you know, people's opinion, but during the game you want people who are fans to be behind the club and that's what I refuse. I will never accept that during a game. If people want me out, they want me out, I can accept that. In the game, you support the team, it's as simple as that.
"I meet many Arsenal fans who are absolutely fantastic. I just said there was maybe 1pc, but the 99pc of our fans are absolutely fantastic. We play for the 99.9pc.

"I am a forgiving man. This job is basically trusting human beings, you know, so if you cannot forgive, you cannot trust.

So you 1% of fans against him he is big enough to forgive you...be blessed

I wish I could work out what he was wittering on about. "A kind of violence where everybody has opinions".
I think what he's saying is it's ok people to THINK he's crap but when ordinary people find ways to make their opinions heard - banners, twitter, chanting, whatever - that's unacceptable. Fascism, yay!

Incredible how many teams win games with 50,000 fans abusing them for 90 minutes, yet our little snowflakes apparently melt at the sight of half a dozen pieces of A4 addressed to the board/manager.

[augie]

EVERY red top newspaper this morning is reporting of the major split between wenker and the board - many on here dismissed that story as a nonsense rumour up to now, but I think that it is fair to say that wenkers comments post match have confirmed the story. For me this right now depends on the balls/guts of those board members - if they don't have the balls to stand up and say what they feel when wenker is in the room with them, then we cant have much hopes of a change of manager.

The one thing that I am wondering though, is what position of strength gazidas has - all stories seem to believe that the wiggy c.unt is still supporting wenker, but you would have to question if gazidas would risk a massive fallout with wenker unless he has the backing of stan. You would also have to question if kroenke jnr would stand up and oppose wenker, unless he believed that they have a strong chance that they can stand together and oust wenker

Wenker's position with kroenke snr might not be as strong as some think

[cameron326]

I don't really care whether he stays or goes anymore. It's got tiresome beyond belief. I just wish he'd stop being such an arrogant prick and if he is going to stay, to try, just for for once, as manager of one of the biggest, richest clubs in the league/Europe, to mount a proper title challenge next season. Along with 80% of fans I don't think he's capable of it, but if he's really intent on throwing away the slither of goodwill he bought himself this week and going out on a low, let's just let him get on with it.

[cameron326]

EVERY red top newspaper this morning is reporting of the major split between wenker and the board - many on here dismissed that story as a nonsense rumour up to now, but I think that it is fair to say that wenkers comments post match have confirmed the story. For me this right now depends on the balls/guts of those board members - if they don't have the balls to stand up and say what they feel when wenker is in the room with them, then we cant have much hopes of a change of manager.

The one thing that I am wondering though, is what position of strength gazidas has - all stories seem to believe that the wiggy c.unt is still supporting wenker, but you would have to question if gazidas would risk a massive fallout with wenker unless he has the backing of stan. You would also have to question if kroenke jnr would stand up and oppose wenker, unless he believed that they have a strong chance that they can stand together and oust wenker

Wenker's position with kroenke snr might not be as strong as some think

The full-on assault on the majority of fans who think he should step down could just be him getting "his side of the story in/excuses in" before the axe finally falls - "Nobody could have succeeded under such a poisonous atmosphere - but look, I still got you an FA Cup you ungrateful sods" kind of thing.
They're not the kind of comments a manager who is sticking around another couple of seasons would make to the fanbase. But with Wenger, who knows.

[beck]

If he stays or goes he has left the club in the shit. We can't afford to lose the few decent players we have but that looks on the cards either way.
Who on earth would want to sign for this toxic club right now.

I expect that Nigerian youngster from Belgium can't bloody wait !

Now now Stuart, haven't you heard about this boy? Why, he's just had a fabulous season with....with....err, what was the name of that club ??

Anyway, be positive, who knows he could be our next Zalalem......(wtf happened to him? Wasn't he another "next big thing" ?).


Arsene knows.

Zelalem just done an acl in his knee at the under 20 World Cup in South Korea playing for USA
He is out for 6-9 months

[Wilson]

So according to Wenger its only 1% of Arsenal fans that dont support him.

Thats what, 600 fans at a home game, and 30-80 fans at away games depending on attendance.

I thought Trump trying to convince the world more people attended his inauguration than they did Obama's was a sheer denial of numerical reality, but take a bow Arsene Wenger.

[rodders999]

Was watching The Damned United again last night and a confrontation between the Derby chairman and Cloughie really stood out as being appropriate for the current goings on at Arsene FC.

Clough had just done an interview where he tore the board a new arsehole (comparable to Wenger's "absolute disgrace" tirade from Saturday) and was furious when the chairman wanted him to field a weekend team in the league before a massive midweek European semi final.

The Derby chairman cornerd him in the tunnel and hit him with this little beauty -

the reality of footballing life is this:

The chairman is the boss,
then comes the directors...
then the secretary, then the fans,
then the players...
and then finally, last of all...
bottom of the heap,
the lowest of the low...
comes the one, who in the end,
we can all do without...

the fucking manager

Must say I enjoyed that in my hungover haze

[General]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SirMatthewBu ... 0255461376

By the way times reporting that it's a done deal.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/spor ... -qw8bbz7zv

[StuartL]

So according to Wenger its only 1% of Arsenal fans that dont support him.

Thats what, 600 fans at a home game, and 30-80 fans at away games depending on attendance.

I thought Trump trying to convince the world more people attended his inauguration than they did Obama's was a sheer denial of numerical reality, but take a bow Arsene Wenger.

He is also therefore claiming that the AST survey was fixed, or inaccurate as it showed that 75% or so thought his time was up

He twists and turns like a twisty turny thing !

[Swiss Tony Adams]

So according to Wenger its only 1% of Arsenal fans that dont support him.

Thats what, 600 fans at a home game, and 30-80 fans at away games depending on attendance.

I thought Trump trying to convince the world more people attended his inauguration than they did Obama's was a sheer denial of numerical reality, but take a bow Arsene Wenger.

Actually I think that's about right, judging by figures for the marches, and the protests in the grounds.

A few hundred at the first one, then a few thousand at the second one, with people just going along for the laugh, then no-one at the next one.
Ditto at the away games, even the WBA away game didn't have 100 people with banners.

You can counter by saying that this website or that website had a survey, and 80% clicked on "wenger out".
That means nothing. It's almost totally irrelevant.
What matters is ST's sold, profits made, and trophies won.

Then the FA Cup FInal, the time to show Kroenke that he isn't wanted...
Didn't see one "Kroenke Out" sign in the crowd... hopefully there were 2 or 3 brought along, but not taken out.
Kroenke thinks that the FA Cup FInal is like the Super Bowl. The Arsenal won it, and have done 3 out of the last years.

He's not going anywhere, and 99% of the fans will be happy next season, sitting in their soulless bowl, and going home 5 mins. early.
I don't just despair about english football fans, I can see that the Premier League and the powers that be have won.

So buy your over-priced ticket and your half and half scarf, sit down, shut up, and then get out of "their Club."

The old school fans are not wanted, not needed, and not going to be missed.

Can't wait til Thursday...

[Redarmy]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SirMatthewBu ... 0255461376

By the way times reporting that it's a done deal.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/spor ... -qw8bbz7zv

surprise, surprise.....some on here will be shocked no doubt...

[Redarmy]

So according to Wenger its only 1% of Arsenal fans that dont support him.

Thats what, 600 fans at a home game, and 30-80 fans at away games depending on attendance.

I thought Trump trying to convince the world more people attended his inauguration than they did Obama's was a sheer denial of numerical reality, but take a bow Arsene Wenger.

He is also therefore claiming that the AST survey was fixed, or inaccurate as it showed that 75% or so thought his time was up

He twists and turns like a twisty turny thing !

AST has around a 1000 members not sure how many responded to this poll, banding about 78% figures is misleading

[Redarmy]

Was watching The Damned United again last night and a confrontation between the Derby chairman and Cloughie really stood out as being appropriate for the current goings on at Arsene FC.

Clough had just done an interview where he tore the board a new arsehole (comparable to Wenger's "absolute disgrace" tirade from Saturday) and was furious when the chairman wanted him to field a weekend team in the league before a massive midweek European semi final.

The Derby chairman cornerd him in the tunnel and hit him with this little beauty -

the reality of footballing life is this:

The chairman is the boss,
then comes the directors...
then the secretary, then the fans,
then the players...
and then finally, last of all...
bottom of the heap,
the lowest of the low...
comes the one, who in the end,
we can all do without...

the fucking manager

Must say I enjoyed that in my hungover haze

Think Clough had the last word, moving down the road to rivals Forest and winning the CL twice.....