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Oxlade-Chamberlain
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Team selection yesterday more baffling considering Ox was on his way out. Last attempt to pacify him and make him stay? See I have benched my record signing to accommodate you, playing my normal right back out of position and thrown in Welbz for company. Sign ze contract pleez.
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I'm totally gutted and pissed off.
He's the only player we've got who can beat a player one-on-one for pace and/or skill. His final ball has been improving, he's pretty strong and he seemed to fit into the wingback role pretty well.
I never thought I'd ever see us in mid-table ever again in my lifetime, but at this rate we'll be lucky to achieve that.
This might be the final straw for me.
He's the only player we've got who can beat a player one-on-one for pace and/or skill. His final ball has been improving, he's pretty strong and he seemed to fit into the wingback role pretty well.
I never thought I'd ever see us in mid-table ever again in my lifetime, but at this rate we'll be lucky to achieve that.
This might be the final straw for me.
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chambo off, mustafi eyed up by inter, sanchez put in a transfer request. the players do not want to be here anymore, they'd have to be stupid to want to stay. i actually believe this is the biggest crisis the club has been in for some time, at least until the mid seventies.
can't wait to find out which absolute pieces of shite wenger plucks out of thin air on transfer deadline day. maybe we'll re-sign kim kallstrom

can't wait to find out which absolute pieces of shite wenger plucks out of thin air on transfer deadline day. maybe we'll re-sign kim kallstrom


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Ox has just signed for Chelsea. Where does that leave the Danny Drinkwater deal?. Is Wenger going to put in a cheeky £40m bid.



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Why do i have the feeling by the end of this transfer window we're going to be even more unbalanced..... mind you i can't actually remember the last time we had proper balance in the squad, never mind the first team.
Out of our English core Ox was the one i'd have preferred to keep, no sign of Wally, Gibbs etc leaving, guess they're either not too ambitious..... actually i'll just leave it there
Out of our English core Ox was the one i'd have preferred to keep, no sign of Wally, Gibbs etc leaving, guess they're either not too ambitious..... actually i'll just leave it there

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I'll be very interested to see weather his career takes off or continues its flat line now that he's away from the "guidance" of TOF, don't blame him for going, not heartbroken either, club is so far down the shiter one player leaving barely registers with me.Rosie_titters wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:11 pmOx has just signed for Chelsea. Where does that leave the Danny Drinkwater deal?. Is Wenger going to put in a cheeky £40m bid.![]()
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Another wasted potential world class talent through the mismanagement of this finished manager and his football program/structure.
When Chamberlain came on the scene in his first season he looked like a lad who would be world class. He was flourishing due to actually having the freedom and flair to create and was being played in his proper position.
Since then, Wenger has shuffled and moved him around in every position, completely stuffed his progress by not playing him in his proper position, injuries due to Wenger's failed training programs etc.
What a disgrace. When he came on the scene and was linking up with Van Persie he looked absolutely quality.
Wilshere, Ramsey, Chamberlain, Merida, Gibbs, Bellerin now, Szczesny, the list goes on of potential world class footballers being ruined by Wenger and the Arsenal Regime.
Wish the lad well if he leaves. What's the point in playing for a club with no proper tactical coaching and ambition?
When Chamberlain came on the scene in his first season he looked like a lad who would be world class. He was flourishing due to actually having the freedom and flair to create and was being played in his proper position.
Since then, Wenger has shuffled and moved him around in every position, completely stuffed his progress by not playing him in his proper position, injuries due to Wenger's failed training programs etc.
What a disgrace. When he came on the scene and was linking up with Van Persie he looked absolutely quality.
Wilshere, Ramsey, Chamberlain, Merida, Gibbs, Bellerin now, Szczesny, the list goes on of potential world class footballers being ruined by Wenger and the Arsenal Regime.
Wish the lad well if he leaves. What's the point in playing for a club with no proper tactical coaching and ambition?
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Wasn't it the game against Manure, that he was substituted, much to van Persie's displeasure, after being sensational?
That was the beginning of the end for him even then really, and he'd only been at the Arsenal a short time then.
That was the beginning of the end for him even then really, and he'd only been at the Arsenal a short time then.
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Yep.
Remember that match clearly.
Another one of Wenger's sensational tactical moves...


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Wally Gibbs Debuchy and Jenkinson, all very quiet at the moment, still counting those wages....GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:41 pmWhy do i have the feeling by the end of this transfer window we're going to be even more unbalanced..... mind you i can't actually remember the last time we had proper balance in the squad, never mind the first team.
Out of our English core Ox was the one i'd have preferred to keep, no sign of Wally, Gibbs etc leaving, guess they're either not too ambitious..... actually i'll just leave it there![]()
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No...the real reason was money. Southampton had a deal with Arsenal that they would get X amount of money if AoC was on the field for a certain amount of minutes...so Wenger used to bring him on or take him off to come in under that time so the money didn't have to be paid. He eventually got into a row with them because Wenger forgot to factor in extra time, so say he brought the Ox on with 14 minutes to go, say 15 being the Southampton pay line, then there would be 4 minutes ET and Southampton wanted paying as he had been on the field for not 14, but 18 minutes.
Couldn't make it up huh, Arsene Wenger's Arsenal, where what is happening on the field, takes a back seat to what it's going to cost



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Re: Oxlade-Chamberlain
I've always said I think a better coach with actual man-management skills "should" get more from the Ox.... but I'd also qualify that with I think mentally he is weak. His head drops too quickly - he makes a mistake and he is useless for the rest of the entire game.
A proper coach helps of course, but to be top level as a player you have to have a little something extra in your head and I'm not sure Ox has. Technically he is superb, but only in glimpses. I don't agree his crossing has improved. If anything, it has steadily gotten worse and to the point where he is now reluctant to even try throwing in more than one or maybe two crosses per game - and they mostly are shite. But then that is an Arsenal problem in general, not just an Ox problem.
Will be really interesting to see how he progresses at the chav$. Could become a world class attacking midfielder... could just as easily end up playing wingback at Palace within 3 years...
tbh I kinda wish him luck.
If he did indeed turn down £180k a week to get out from under Wenger than at least he has some form of integrity - well, as much integrity as a modern footballer who will pick up £150K a week anyway at the chav can have I suppose... 
A proper coach helps of course, but to be top level as a player you have to have a little something extra in your head and I'm not sure Ox has. Technically he is superb, but only in glimpses. I don't agree his crossing has improved. If anything, it has steadily gotten worse and to the point where he is now reluctant to even try throwing in more than one or maybe two crosses per game - and they mostly are shite. But then that is an Arsenal problem in general, not just an Ox problem.
Will be really interesting to see how he progresses at the chav$. Could become a world class attacking midfielder... could just as easily end up playing wingback at Palace within 3 years...
tbh I kinda wish him luck.


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Seriously? Fuck me, you couldn't make that shit up.xisstential wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:45 amNo...the real reason was money. Southampton had a deal with Arsenal that they would get X amount of money if AoC was on the field for a certain amount of minutes...so Wenger used to bring him on or take him off to come in under that time so the money didn't have to be paid. He eventually got into a row with them because Wenger forgot to factor in extra time, so say he brought the Ox on with 14 minutes to go, say 15 being the Southampton pay line, then there would be 4 minutes ET and Southampton wanted paying as he had been on the field for not 14, but 18 minutes.
Couldn't make it up huh, Arsene Wenger's Arsenal, where what is happening on the field, takes a back seat to what it's going to cost![]()
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Was the cuunt paying Southampton from his own pocket?
The sooner we get someone in place who doesn't give a shit when the funds become available the better.
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JimmyAFC wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:20 amAnother wasted potential world class talent through the mismanagement of this finished manager and his football program/structure.
When Chamberlain came on the scene in his first season he looked like a lad who would be world class. He was flourishing due to actually having the freedom and flair to create and was being played in his proper position.
Since then, Wenger has shuffled and moved him around in every position, completely stuffed his progress by not playing him in his proper position, injuries due to Wenger's failed training programs etc.
What a disgrace. When he came on the scene and was linking up with Van Persie he looked absolutely quality.
Wilshere, Ramsey, Chamberlain, Merida, Gibbs, Bellerin now, Szczesny, the list goes on of potential world class footballers being ruined by Wenger and the Arsenal Regime.
Wish the lad well if he leaves. What's the point in playing for a club with no proper tactical coaching and ambition?
You have said everything i was going to say.
A really damning indictment on Arsenal and Wenger that a player he said, only last week, could be one of the great midfielders, has decided that he has to move to become that player.
No point in getting on to the Ox when we play them as we all know his reason for leaving, is the same as what we all know, that Arsenal under Wenger are finished.
What an utter fucking mess this club is in.